nadiamendell Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) Trump edges out Biden 51-42 in head-to-head matchup: POLL - ABC News (go.com) Quote President Joe Biden's job approval rating is 19 points underwater, his ratings for handling the economy and immigration are at career lows. A record number of Americans say they've become worse off under his presidency, three-quarters say he's too old for another term and Donald Trump is looking better in retrospect -- all severe challenges for Biden in his reelection campaign ahead. Forty-four percent of Americans in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say they've gotten worse off financially under Biden's presidency, the most for any president in ABC/Post polls since 1986. Just 37% approve of his job performance, while 56% disapprove. Still fewer approve of Biden's performance on the economy, 30%. On handling immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border, Biden's rating is even lower, with 23% approval. In terms of intensity of sentiment, 20% strongly approve of his work overall, while 45% strongly disapprove. And the 74% who say he's too old for a second term is up 6 percentage points since May. Views that Trump is too old also are up, but to 50% in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates. Thoughts? Edited September 25, 2023 by nadiamendell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Banana Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 USA needs a wake up call. Democrat or Republican, it’s a **** hole for anyone who wants to live in 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Administrator Popular Post Ryan Posted September 25, 2023 ATRL Administrator Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2023 All of these people have landlines. That’s all I have to say. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afterglow Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 It'll be fine. General consensus here is that we all prefer Bidens era due to the constant hate and fighting lf the Trump era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 It’s almost like Marianne Williamson was right. 1 minute ago, Afterglow said: It'll be fine. General consensus here is that we all prefer Bidens era due to the constant hate and fighting lf the Trump era. People consistently underestimate Trump. He blew Hillary out of the water and did surprisingly well in 2020 considering the circumstances. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ryan said: All of these people have landlines. That’s all I have to say. yeah with that in mind trump was always gonna come out on top 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheshireCat Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 It's funny how Biden is always "too old" but Trump is basically the same age now as Biden was when he became president. He is old too! Granted Trump speaks pretty quickly and is pretty sassy so it isn't as in-your-face as Biden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC. Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Quote Hillary Clinton has a 12-point lead over Donald Trump and has reached 50% support nationally among likely voters, a new ABC News tracking poll shows. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html Same poll? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Well yeah…Biden barely beat Trump after trump fumbled the Covid response and crashed the economy…what makes people think Biden would win when he is the defending incumbent. The democrats overall seem to have a messaging problem. They don’t really stand for anything so people don’t associate their successes with them. They also don’t really over a compelling reason to support them other than “we are not the other party”. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finite Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ryan said: All of these people have landlines. That’s all I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, byzantium said: Well yeah…Biden barely beat Trump after trump fumbled the Covid response and crashed the economy…what makes people think Biden would win when he is the defending incumbent. The democrats overall seem to have a messaging problem. They don’t really stand for anything so people don’t associate their successes with them. They also don’t really over a compelling reason to support them other than “we are not the other party”. The democrats have a messaging problem when this is happening?: https://abcnews.go.com/538/democrats-winning-big-special-elections/story?id=103315703 I agree, they suck. But 2022 and 2023 data says no, they’re getting the message out fine post Dobbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bears01 said: The democrats have a messaging problem when this is happening? Does Republicans having an awful message mean someone Democrats have an exciting one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LustSpell Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 This feels like an outlier, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Communion said: Does Republicans having an awful message mean someone Democrats have an exciting one? No. But it means they’re getting people to vote for them and flipping seats in state legislatures. When it comes to winning elections, it involves “messaging”. Democrats are about to flip the state house in New Hampshire and just captured the PA House because of the data provided in the article I posted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bears01 said: No. But it means they’re getting people to vote for them and flipping seats in state legislatures. When it comes to winning elections, it involves “messaging”. Democrats are about to flip the state house in New Hampshire and just captured the PA House because of the data provided in the article I posted Is Joe Biden running on the same message as Pennsylvania Democrats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiiKii_Muppisha Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Communion said: Is Joe Biden running on the same message as Pennsylvania Democrats? In some ways, yeah. He’s talking about how trump overturned Roe Vs. Wade. Listen, I think he’s a bad candidate and a do nothing president, but polling a year out from an election has to be taken at face value. Univision (the most accurate source for polling Hispanic Americans in the country) just released a poll today saying he’s doing better with Latinos than he did in 2020: https://x.com/carrasquillo/status/1706353980647886857?s=46&t=F2Kqdy7aScoPGAKFHNr8dQ I don’t believe that, just like I don’t believe he’s 9 points below trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppie Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Mhmm, I watched a video yesterday about how Democrats are significantly outperforming polling and 2020 results in all the special elections since the 2020 election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fememeist Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Not the people wanting an criminal over Sleepy Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breathe On Moi Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 not even the ATRL trumpsters are running in here because we all know this seems sus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel Minaj Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Republicans are so taking this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, TheCheshireCat said: It's funny how Biden is always "too old" but Trump is basically the same age now as Biden was when he became president. He is old too! Granted Trump speaks pretty quickly and is pretty sassy so it isn't as in-your-face as Biden. Democratic and left-leaning voters have standards for who they vote for, while many right-wingers and Republicans have fallen into the Trump camp, so age and controversies don’t impact their support of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazil Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 When will these two die already? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheers Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 We need to stop underestimating Trump and his republicans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad guy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 This poll is most likely an outlier but Biden is in serious danger for 2024. Between his own unpopularity within the Democratic Party, his absolute PANNING among Independents and Republicans, terrible economy, suffocating inflation, border disaster, and inability to put a few sentences together I wouldn’t doubt Trump can beat him. The debates will be a nightmare for Biden as well because he really has no accomplishments to stand on. The most concerning thing is the Latino and Black voter support of Trump increasing since 2020. I doubt Trump will ever win a popular vote, but he can very easily win the electoral college if this continues. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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