lillavend3r Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Starring the first openly gay lead characters on US Broadcast television, this iconique show helped change the general public's view regarding LGBTQ+ rights, (despite still perpetuating some stereotypes) and opened doors for gay centric tv shows that premiered after. Karen & Jack still the best characters though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuelve88 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 This show should have always been about Karen and Jack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted September 25, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted September 25, 2023 No clue if it holds up, I haven't watched it in so long. But this is actually iconic culture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppie Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, supaspaz said: No clue if it holds up, I haven't watched it in so long. But this is actually iconic culture! It's still amazing, especially the earlier seasons. Karen's humor holds up so well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted September 25, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted September 25, 2023 Definitely a hallmark of progress for representation on mainstream TV. I personally don’t think it holds up. I loved it when I was younger. But Will and Grace’s relationship is annoyingly codependent to the point of being grossly heteronormative (the baby repeated storylines are the peak of this criticism). But Karen is still fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaChina Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 it's golden years W&G, sex and the city, friends contending for the same category 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation_Junkie Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Karen is iconic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Banana Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 They still show all the seasons here on Comedy Central. It’s always on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poxy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Iconic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 at the time, i only watched kid/teen shows so didn't really know about it. but in '99, both dawson's creek and buffy started their queer storylines which was great. maybe they were encouraged by w&g the previous year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylordswift13 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) One of my all time favourite shows Edited September 25, 2023 by taylordswift13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) I watched it with my mom in middle school and she was somehow shocked when I came out at 14 💀 Edited September 25, 2023 by Redstreak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSMateus Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 The show is iconic and my fav one. Too bad Megan and Debra had a fall out in the reboot, it ruined my view on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurenostalgic Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 gosh the OG seasons are still hugely entertaining and top-tier humor and writing. like kinda insane the massive difference in quality in network tv shows now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I loved the show and used to watch it before school as a kid. That being said, I think it hasn't held up super well but it was pretty groundbreaking at the time. Karen was the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfillusion Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 it's still really fun, especially Karen and jack. doesn't get enough credit for how groundbreaking it was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slayer Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Loved this show! Karen was always my favourite but they were all great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy soldier. Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 This show literally RAISED me lol I remember asking my dad what a homosexual was because I heard it while watching W&G. I think it holds extremely well, better than a lot of sitcoms. It's literally joke after joke, too bad they couldn't capture the same magic in the reboot (the skit they did for the elections was SO good). I need Netflix or Amazon to put it on streaming ASAP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capris Groove Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Really iconic and had a strong impact on me as a kid. It also definitely helped shape the more progressive LGBT attitudes towards the late 90s. This is my fave scene: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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