MatiRod Posted June 29 Posted June 29 Waka Waka is probably one of the most global songs ever because of the World Cup 1
A-V-XYZ Posted July 1 Posted July 1 On 6/29/2024 at 2:56 AM, MatiRod said: Waka Waka is probably one of the most global songs ever because of the World Cup It flopped in the US (the biggest music market in the world), so no it's not. 1
Doctor Dick Posted July 1 Posted July 1 5 minutes ago, A-V-XYZ said: It flopped in the US (the biggest music market in the world), so no it's not. The song has sold over 15 million copies and is among the best-selling singles of all time and it didn't need the US for that to happen. 1
Inverted Posted July 7 Posted July 7 On 6/28/2024 at 5:43 PM, shakeyourbombom said: The last time I checked IMI only had like 3 international and 8 or 9 Indian records certified, does that make sense to you? Remember, a lot of information was lost after decades. I have already provided you an info showing Laundry Service was certified in India. Perhaps it's your turn to show me which Jennifer Lopez's record was certified in India? Exactly, just like AKA and This is me now, none, 0 certification . Do you really believe Ricky Martin have not sold 70 million?😂 That's Ricky Martin bro, not Jennifer Lopez. He's a professional singer. Uh yes... that makes complete sense to me. The IMI only counts certified sales. The vast majority of music consumption in India pre-streaming is completely illegal bootlegging and radio airplay. Those are NOT measurable ways to count sales. What part of that do you not understand? Aren't you Asian yourself? You should know that the vast majority of Asian countries (aside from Japan and South Korea and maybe Taiwan and Hong Kong) did not have the ability to actually certify sales before. I never brought up Jennifer Lopez, but since you did, it's common knowledge that On the Floor was a hit in India just like you and your fellow boast about Waka Waka. As for "a lot of information was lost after decades"? Lol what? Did you just full that fan fiction out of your ass? The IMI has never "lost" anything. They just don't have actual legit sales to certify. And no, Ricky Martin does not actually have 70 million certified sales. That's an inflated estimate pushed by his label. It's similar to the inflated numbers you push for Shakira... like the Laundry Service being certified 5x platinum in India with your evidence being her own press conferences without any source or the IMI confirming this. Stop lying. You LIE all the time. On 6/28/2024 at 8:18 PM, lael said: Where's the evidence that Beyonce is bigger than Shakira in India when taking their careers as a whole into account? The same "evidence" you used. You used clips from India supposedly copying or referencing Shakira. I found a dozen more examples for Beyonce. 1
lael Posted July 7 Posted July 7 6 hours ago, Inverted said: Uh yes... that makes complete sense to me. The IMI only counts certified sales. The vast majority of music consumption in India pre-streaming is completely illegal bootlegging and radio airplay. Those are NOT measurable ways to count sales. What part of that do you not understand? Aren't you Asian yourself? You should know that the vast majority of Asian countries (aside from Japan and South Korea and maybe Taiwan and Hong Kong) did not have the ability to actually certify sales before. I never brought up Jennifer Lopez, but since you did, it's common knowledge that On the Floor was a hit in India just like you and your fellow boast about Waka Waka. As for "a lot of information was lost after decades"? Lol what? Did you just full that fan fiction out of your ass? The IMI has never "lost" anything. They just don't have actual legit sales to certify. And no, Ricky Martin does not actually have 70 million certified sales. That's an inflated estimate pushed by his label. It's similar to the inflated numbers you push for Shakira... like the Laundry Service being certified 5x platinum in India with your evidence being her own press conferences without any source or the IMI confirming this. Stop lying. You LIE all the time. The same "evidence" you used. You used clips from India supposedly copying or referencing Shakira. I found a dozen more examples for Beyonce. There's a whole bunch of other clips referencing Shakira that I didn't paste here. 2
lael Posted July 7 Posted July 7 6 hours ago, Inverted said: Uh yes... that makes complete sense to me. The IMI only counts certified sales. The vast majority of music consumption in India pre-streaming is completely illegal bootlegging and radio airplay. Those are NOT measurable ways to count sales. What part of that do you not understand? Aren't you Asian yourself? You should know that the vast majority of Asian countries (aside from Japan and South Korea and maybe Taiwan and Hong Kong) did not have the ability to actually certify sales before. I never brought up Jennifer Lopez, but since you did, it's common knowledge that On the Floor was a hit in India just like you and your fellow boast about Waka Waka. As for "a lot of information was lost after decades"? Lol what? Did you just full that fan fiction out of your ass? The IMI has never "lost" anything. They just don't have actual legit sales to certify. And no, Ricky Martin does not actually have 70 million certified sales. That's an inflated estimate pushed by his label. It's similar to the inflated numbers you push for Shakira... like the Laundry Service being certified 5x platinum in India with your evidence being her own press conferences without any source or the IMI confirming this. Stop lying. You LIE all the time. The same "evidence" you used. You used clips from India supposedly copying or referencing Shakira. I found a dozen more examples for Beyonce. Also, under their cultural impact pages on Wiki, India continously comes up on Shakira's page and is not referenced once on Beyonce's. 1
lael Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Shakira is way more streamed than Beyonce in India: https://chartmasters.org/the-dark-horse-india-is-ready-to-strike/ 1
shakeyourbombom Posted July 7 Posted July 7 11 hours ago, Inverted said: Uh yes... that makes complete sense to me. The IMI only counts certified sales. The vast majority of music consumption in India pre-streaming is completely illegal bootlegging and radio airplay. Those are NOT measurable ways to count sales. What part of that do you not understand? Aren't you Asian yourself? You should know that the vast majority of Asian countries (aside from Japan and South Korea and maybe Taiwan and Hong Kong) did not have the ability to actually certify sales before. I never brought up Jennifer Lopez, but since you did, it's common knowledge that On the Floor was a hit in India just like you and your fellow boast about Waka Waka. As for "a lot of information was lost after decades"? Lol what? Did you just full that fan fiction out of your ass? The IMI has never "lost" anything. They just don't have actual legit sales to certify. And no, Ricky Martin does not actually have 70 million certified sales. That's an inflated estimate pushed by his label. It's similar to the inflated numbers you push for Shakira... like the Laundry Service being certified 5x platinum in India with your evidence being her own press conferences without any source or the IMI confirming this. Stop lying. You LIE all the time. The same "evidence" you used. You used clips from India supposedly copying or referencing Shakira. I found a dozen more examples for Beyonce. Yawn 1
Red Hot Moon Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 hour ago, shakeyourbombom said: Yawn Same old, same old. But watch them claim it's always "Shakirastans attacking Jlostans for absolutely no reason" tomorrow, while all 3 of them have been camping in Shakira related threads for a decade. 1
shakeyourbombom Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Red Hot Moon said: Same old, same old. But watch them claim it's always "Shakirastans attacking Jlostans for absolutely no reason" tomorrow, while all 3 of them have been camping in Shakira related threads for a decade. He came back to this thread to reply me after 2 weeks or something with those repeated points. Giving me no receipts but just his delusion, boring, yawn
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