vuelve88 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, HappierJealousy said: And her next solo single after these smashes peaked at #84 this can only prove both she and her collaborators don’t have enough commercial power in the US cause all their solo flop Shakira was literally just performing at the VMAs last week, where she was awarded and recognized for her incredible 30 year music career. Your arguments are terrible. The only flop is your attempts to drag Shakira. 3 1
Axelios Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 No she is a non factor in most of the world 1 1 1 4
HappierJealousy Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, vuelve88 said: Shakira was literally just performing at the VMAs last week, where she was awarded and recognized for her incredible 30 year music career. And what’s the relationship between this and her commercial power in the states? she is a respected legend yes ofc but she is still not popular in the U.S compared with all other MPGs. This is not a drag this is just a fact 4
Witnessed ET Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) Shakira is the biggest global female pop superstar and nobody else comes close. her name has reached even the corners of third world countries. Edited September 21, 2023 by Witnessed ET 4 1 4
The Witch Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Yes, she is. People saying Rih it's not 2016 anymore!
vuelve88 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, HappierJealousy said: And what’s the relationship between this and her commercial power in the states? she is a respected legend yes ofc but she is still not popular in the U.S compared with all other MPGs. This is not a drag this is just a fact They were literally celebrating her biggest hits in the United States and world and she was billed as the biggest artist of the night winning a career achievement award. Use your brain sometimes. Her performance was the most viewed of the entire show. It’s not even debatable. Edited September 21, 2023 by vuelve88 1
Nebur Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, unclefloprry said: Where? Latin and North America? Her music this year was not successful outside that region + Spain. The population in Latin America is approximately almost 700 million without counting the 20% of the US that is Latino or descendants
unclefloprry Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, vuelve88 said: She literally had two Top 10 hits on the Billboard Hot 100 and topped Billboard’s Global chart. Stop playing Billboard Hot 100 is from the US (North America) and her performance on the "global" chart was 100% carried by LATAM. You just proved my point.
commander Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Indiangirlsdancingtowakawaka.gif yes she is. She is insanely huge in all the middle east and no other western pop girl comes close to that.
HappierJealousy Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, vuelve88 said: They were literally celebrating her biggest hits in the United States and world and she was billed as the biggest artist of the night winning a career achievement award. Use your brain sometimes. Her performance was the most viewed of the entire show. It’s not even debatable. those two songs are not her biggest hits in the US Hips don’t lie is. One winning achievement award doesn’t mean she is the biggest artist that night Jesus, you literally just say anything I can’t believe Shakira stan start to act like she is popular in the U.S she doesn’t even have an album hit #1 on Billboard 200 I can’t Edited September 21, 2023 by HappierJealousy
vuelve88 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, HappierJealousy said: those two songs are not her biggest hits in the US Hips don’t lie is. One winning achievement award doesn’t mean she is the biggest artist that night Jesus, you literally just say anything I can’t believe Shakira stan start to act like she is the biggest artist in the U.S She performed a medley of songs from her 30 year music career as the highest selling Latina artist of all time, including 2 songs which were just top 10 hits this year. She was advertised as the biggest artist of the night in all the promotions -- and she has the most views for her performance among all performances at 18 million views. The second highest viewed performance has 5 million views. You're trying to argue against verifiable data. She literally has an exhibit currently in the Grammy Museum (in the U.S.) about her career. She's on the cover of Billboard Magazine (U.S.) at this very moment. Whatever case you think you are making, it's flopping. The mental gymnastics. Edited September 21, 2023 by vuelve88 1 1
HappierJealousy Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, vuelve88 said: She performed a medley of songs from her 30 year music career as the highest selling Latina artist of all time, including 2 songs which were just top 10 hits this year. She literally has an exhibit currently in the Grammy Museum (in the U.S.) about her career. She's on the cover of Billboard Magazine (U.S.) at this very moment. Whatever case you think you are making, it's flopping. The mental gymnastics. Shakira on Billboard in her 30 year’s career Hot 100: 1 #1, no solo top 10 since 2006 Billboard 200 album chart: 0 #1 I don’t really need to read the nonsense you typed. We’re talking about commercial power in the U.S and these two stats are enough. The fact is just simple that Shakira is NOT popular in the U.S and there’s nothing to spin it I’m sorry. You can keep mention this unnecessary thing like the magazine she covered that nobody cares though
Cheers Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, BOOM! said: Similar to Madonna. Rihanna will have to prove herself again, because when was the last time she released anything? Shakira is having an absolutely huge year, almost 30 years into her career. Shakira's global power is much bigger than Rihanna's imo. Lol thanks to Bizzrap and Karol G. How did Copa Vacia do? How did Acrostico do? Shakira stans stay overrating her actual power 3
vuelve88 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, HappierJealousy said: Shakira on Billboard in her 30 year’s career Hot 100: 1 #1, no solo top 10 since 2006 Billboard 200 album chart: 0 #1 I don’t really need to read the nonsense you typed. We’re talking about commercial power in the U.S and these two stats are enough. The fact is just simple that Shakira is NOT popular in the U.S and there’s nothing to spin it I’m sorry. You can keep mention this unnecessary thing like the magazine she covered that nobody cares though Stay delusional Shakira remains the highest selling Latina artist of all time.
HappierJealousy Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, vuelve88 said: Stay delusional Shakira remains the highest selling Latina artist of all time. No one deny that but she is still not popular in the U.S .Billboard official phone number - 800-684-1873, you can call them and call them delusional cause it’s not me who collects her sales data in the U.S
vuelve88 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, HappierJealousy said: No one deny that but she is still not popular in the U.S .Billboard official phone number - 800-684-1873, you can call them and call them delusional cause it’s not me who collects her sales data in the U.S She's on their magazine, so I doubt Billboard would agree with your wrong opinion. Another flop comment. The magazine headline is "Hits Don't Lie". Her music is successful to Billboard, the authority on commercial music performance.
HappierJealousy Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, vuelve88 said: She's on their magazine, so I doubt Billboard would agree with your wrong opinion. Another flop comment. The magazine headline is "Hits Don't Lie". Her music is successful to Billboard, the authority on commercial music performance. And still don’t change her fact she only has one #1 single and no #1 albums there? You really need to google “Billboard magazine” and realize literally everyone can cover that But what do we expect? you just keep these magazine cover nonsense as I spoke
vuelve88 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, HappierJealousy said: And still don’t change her fact she only has one #1 single and no #1 albums there? You really need to google “Billboard magazine” and realize literally everyone can cover that But what do we expect? you just keep these magazine cover nonsense as I spoke Your arguments give low intelligence, and you're scrambling to rationalize a losing case. Shakira received the Latin Woman of the Year award by Billboard this year, in the U.S., at an event that was dedicated to her and other Latin artists. I'm going to trust Billboard's metrics and knowledge over yours any day. You're literally making up rules when Shakira is being awarded and acknowledged left and right for her music.
Witnessed ET Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) The gays in this site really have no understanding of a global celebrity profile and reach huh You really think countries around the world are gonna care about which song spent how long at #1 on billboard hot 100 Waka Waka is bigger and more recognizable around the world even in the corners of third world countries than some of your favorite anglophone pop girls’ biggest hits. Get with the program and stop being biased for once lol. Shakira is what it means to be truly international. Deal with it. Edited September 21, 2023 by Witnessed ET 6
AvadaKedavra Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) In Northamerica she has good success In Latinoamerica a Legend In Europe if you look the stats of some of the main countries like France-Italy-Switzerland. She's been very successful and all over europe has so many hits In Africa some of her songs get traction yep In Middle East-India she is really really big. She should go more there and secure those fanbases like Latinoamerica and release more arabic songs. In East Asia-Southeast asia very small fanbase but recognized In Oceania she was very big in the LS era but never went back there and thats important to have a fanbase, so she dipped- Shakira actually has something special too. Shes big in minor and small countries. She's a people artist and her kindness make people love her. She's not only an artists for the gays,hipsters or the rich white teens. She's an artist for everybody. She was the first musician reaching 100 million of followers on facebook the largest social network and most visited place on the planet. The 3 world cups also allowed Shakira to reach every corner of the planet. From the most powerful countries to the most distant islands,villages and slums. Her music basically has been listened everywhere worldwide. That kind of exposure is just insane. Yeah she's one of the most global popgirls ever and impressive coming from the third world. I think the most global one is Rihanna or Madonna but Shakira is in the top 5-7-10 for sure I think her multiracial heritage and growin in such a diverse region like barranquilla allowed her to move easily between cultures Shakira is a citizen of the world. Meanwhile other divas are more like......American "Divas" and feel more like glamorous-exclusive american products I think Shakira feels more human-reachable sometimes Like Rihanna cause she comes from nothing.....from cities u never seen on screen. Not the typical starlet. Shakira has experienced in her youth the struggles with criminality,violence, bad politicians,economical unstability no future and poverty-bad salaries The struggles half of the people of this planet have everyday. I feel like this is sometimes one of the reasons why there's such a disconnection with the anglo world too. Shakira speaks more to people outside the Anglo Bubble. People in a romanian town. Kids from an egyptian neighboorhood. Teens from Honduras... Nothing against my anglo sisters. Love yll amores. I just feel like there'a big separation between lifestyles-life visions in the developed and developing world. People reflect that. I think this is also one of the reasons why she had a hard time smashing in the states. She's not americanized enough. Too exotic. Europe is more open to world music and unusual sounds smashing there. Female artists who toured the most countries in the world Edited September 21, 2023 by AvadaKedavra 3 5
DemDam92 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 I think she is def the most known name. Say Shakira in Africa, in India, in Europe, US, Latin America, middle East. Everyone knows who she is. 3
Axelios Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Taylor Swift is obviously much bigger globally 1
AvadaKedavra Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Axelios said: Taylor Swift is obviously much bigger globally Taylor really went from....... 1. Local Country Act(Debut) 2. Local American Star with some Worldwide fame(Fearless to Red) 3. Worldwide Superstar(1989 to Lover) 4. Worldwide Superstar on Steroids ascending to Rihanna-Madonna levels of Global Impact (Folklore to Midnights) Edited September 21, 2023 by AvadaKedavra
LOTF Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, AvadaKedavra said: In Northamerica she has good success In Latinoamerica a Legend In Europe if you look the stats of some of the main countries like France-Italy-Switzerland. She's been very successful and all over europe has so many hits In Africa some of her songs get traction yep In Middle East-India she is really really big. She should go more there and secure those fanbases like Latinoamerica and release more arabic songs. In East Asia-Southeast asia very small fanbase but recognized In Oceania she was very big in the LS era but never went back there and thats important to have a fanbase, so she dipped- Shakira actually has something special too. Shes big in minor and small countries. She's a people artist and her kindness make people love her. She's not only an artists for the gays,hipsters or the rich white teens. She's an artist for everybody. She was the first musician reaching 100 million of followers on facebook the largest social network and most visited place on the planet. The 3 world cups also allowed Shakira to reach every corner of the planet. From the most powerful countries to the most distant islands,villages and slums. Her music basically has been listened everywhere worldwide. That kind of exposure is just insane. Yeah she's one of the most global popgirls ever and impressive coming from the third world. I think the most global one is Rihanna or Madonna but Shakira is in the top 5-7-10 for sure I think her multiracial heritage and growin in such a diverse region like barranquilla allowed her to move easily between cultures Shakira is a citizen of the world. Meanwhile other divas are more like......American "Divas" and feel more like glamorous-exclusive american products I think Shakira feels more human-reachable sometimes Like Rihanna cause she comes from nothing.....from cities u never seen on screen. Not the typical starlet. Shakira has experienced in her youth the struggles with criminality,violence, bad politicians,economical unstability no future and poverty-bad salaries The struggles half of the people of this planet have everyday. I feel like this is sometimes one of the reasons why there's such a disconnection with the anglo world too. Shakira speaks more to people outside the Anglo Bubble. People in a romanian town. Kids from an egyptian neighboorhood. Teens from Honduras... Nothing against my anglo sisters. Love yll amores. I just feel like there'a big separation between lifestyles-life visions in the developed and developing world. People reflect that. I think this is also one of the reasons why she had a hard time smashing in the states. She's not americanized enough. Too exotic. Europe is more open to world music and unusual sounds smashing there. Female artists who toured the most countries in the world Oop, you came through with this reply.
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