Kitty Kat Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) Edited September 26, 2023 by Kitty Kat 1
Contessa Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 Horrible.. but we should stop the outdated concept of singling out "women and children" in case of war. ALL civilians deserve to live. 4 1
Finite Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Contessa said: ALL civilians deserve to live. That part right there! But I do agree, it’s horrible in any case and I wish that all this violence would cease. Edited September 20, 2023 by Charcoal Baby 1
Kitty Kat Posted September 20, 2023 Author Posted September 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Contessa said: Horrible.. but we should stop the outdated concept of singling out "women and children" in case of war. ALL civilians deserve to live. I agree with you - just posted the first tweet I saw that somehow summarised the events of the past days. If there’s another tweet anyone knows of which uses slightly different phrasing, I’m more than open to use it. NEWS:
Jotham Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 This is so horrible. Do you know if there's any way we can donate to support Armenia?
ontherocks Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 Armenian side has already accepted a capitulation
bestfiction Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 Armenians have gone through so much suffering at the hands of the imperial powers surrounding them praying that they'll get to live in peace and safety one day
YellowRibbon Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 B-b-but religion of peace! See what happens when religious zealots with nothing better to do take power.... 2 1 4
ZIVERT Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: B-b-but religion of peace! See what happens when religious zealots with nothing better to do take power.... This war has nothing to do with religion
katykater Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ontherocks said: Armenian side has already accepted a capitulation russia is too weak to back Armenia up and Azerbaijan is backed by Turkey while Europe needs Baku's oil. If we pressure the Turkish influence out of Azerbaijan, the Iranian or Chinese influence would go there. Sometimes the locals don't want to see British, American or European influence in their country. It is smart to let an Turkic ally has it for their gain while keeping the enemies out. The Turkic people on the map: There is more room for Turkish influence to expand at the expense of russia to keep the Chinese out. Those on the wrong side of the Turkish influence are [past tense of ***] because of the Western powers don't come anywhere close to the land locked locations in the middle of nowhere. The Turks can have it to keep the enemies out. This is not a case of war coming too close to the first world. So the Armenians are on their own and has no other choice than capitulation. Edited September 20, 2023 by katykater
ontherocks Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, YellowRibbon said: B-b-but religion of peace! See what happens when religious zealots with nothing better to do take power.... Now, now...We actually do have a genocide in Europe from not too long ago, comitted by orthodox Christians on Muslims (Srebrenica, 1995), so spare us pls. Aside from that, this war is not motivated by religion.
Pendulum Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 5 hours ago, katykater said: If we pressure the Turkish influence out of Azerbaijan, the Iranian or Chinese influence would go there. Azerbaijan and Iran despise each other, what are you talking about? 6 hours ago, YellowRibbon said: B-b-but religion of peace! See what happens when religious zealots with nothing better to do take power.... you think you ate
Pendulum Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 garbage EU having its mouth sewn shut... clownery with a side of hypocrisy
katykater Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Pendulum said: Azerbaijan and Iran despise each other, what are you talking about? After more research about regions in the world the average person isn't supposed to know much about, Israel is invested in Azerbaijan because Azeri separatism could also make parts of Iran to break away. Keeping the Iranians out isn't the most correct wording, it is more like betting on taking a slice from Iran.
Kitty Kat Posted September 22, 2023 Author Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) Since the last update, Artsakh surrendered, with a ceasefire being put in place. Azerbaijan holds the 'talks of integration of Nagarno-Karabakh into Azerbaijan' as a condition for this ceasefire, alongside the disarming of the Artsakh government. Reports of the ceasefire being violated and of Azerbaijani soldiers shooting freely in the region have been published. Edited September 22, 2023 by Kitty Kat 1
Kitty Kat Posted September 22, 2023 Author Posted September 22, 2023 Armenia Several protesters also protested in Yerevan, Armenia's capital for what they perceive as 'betrayal' by the Pashinyan government, calling for a removal of Pashinyan from power and for Armenia to intervene militarily. More than 30 people were reported injured in protests on one night, with a 50/50 split between police and civilians reported. Pashinyan has in the past stated that Armenia recognises the borders of Azerbaijan. Armenia intervening militarily in this conflict would most likely result in a rapid loss, due to their army's outdated equipment and lack of personnel in comparison to Azerbaijan, who has received 21st-century equipment from Italy, Israel, and others, within the past year. Pashinyan's political party, Civic Contract, won the largest number of seats in Yerevan's City Council election last week which saw turnout of approximately 29%, but failed short of a majority. Even when combining the seats of them and their likeliest political partner, the two fall short of a majority by one seat. Should a mayor not be elected soon, new elections are required to be held. From my personal point of view as someone who is tuned in to the domestic affairs of Armenia, Pashinyan's party is delicately positioned within many extreme factions, attempting to manouevre through them all. Whilst there are of course people protesting, many people within Armenia also believe that Pashinyan's actions are correct to best protect the Republic of Armenia's territorial integrity and that militarily intervening in Artsakh would be a grave mistake for the state at this time. Russia Russia's recently appointed president of the Republic of Artsakh had Artsakh surrender a day before the UNSC meeting discussing this matter. The surrender of Artsakh and the following talks have been Russian-backed, despite calls from countries such as the United States and France also wishing to be at the table. Several Russian peacekeepers were killed by shelling on 20 September. Stalin himself created the situation we've seen today when the region was transferred from the Armenian SSR to the Azerbaijani SSR. Russia wishes to see an unstable South Caucuses region, in particular an unstable Armenia. It wishes to punish an Armenia who it perceives as being increasingly pro-Western since the Velvet Revolution, and ultimately, the reintegration of Armenia into Russia's sphere of influence, and even worse. European Union The European Union released a statement from the Foreign Affairs High Representative which condemned Azerbaijan's "military operation", calling on Azerbaijan to allow immediate humanitarian access to the region, and as always, encourages Baku into dialogue. 47% of Azerbaijan's exports in 2022 went to Italy alone, with Azerbaijan being seen as an increasingly important energy partner for the EU. Turkey Supports Azerbaijan in all of its doing. Iran Iran mostly cares about their potential trade route into Europe not being disrupted, that route going through Syunik, Armenia's southernmost region which Azerbaijan and Turkey both eye up and want control over to have a direct connection between Turkey and Azerbaijan. Iran has stated that any incursion of Armenia's sovereignty in this region will be met with a response from Tehran. 1 1
Kitty Kat Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 That's around 25-30% of the entire population of Artsakh in under a week.
Genius1111 Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Quote Aliyev restored control over the breakaway region of Nagorno-Karabakh last month with a 24-hour military operation which triggered the exodus of most of the territory's 120,000 ethnic Armenians to Armenia. Aliyev said he had acted in accordance with international law, adding that eight villages in Azerbaijan were "still under Armenian occupation, and stressed the importance of liberating these villages from occupation." The Azerbaijani president visited Georgia on Sunday and thanked Tbilisi for offering to mediate for a peace agreement between Azerbaijan and Armenia. But an Armenian envoy said he feared Azerbaijan could invade within weeks. "We are now under imminent threat of invasion," the Armenian ambassador-designate to the EU, Tigran Balayan, told Brussels Signal. The way the world treated this war as though it was nothing... Edited October 8, 2023 by Genius1111
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