news US's first Muslim-majority city bans pride flag

[Johnny Jacobs]

46 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

we won’t let y’all

Who's we? And the delusion that you can "let us" 

 

 

 

[Blue Rose]

All this islamophobia over a Pride Flag, meanwhile a Christian missionary (why do we still allow this in 2023??) just slit his girlfriend throat because she got pregnant and he didn’t want his wife to find out. 

[kataraqueen]

Like European countries took over the world and then allowed the mafia to take over in those countries and now you're blaming a whole religion when there's obviously bigger things at play. Those same muslims you hate right now are literally being repressed by the same system. BIGOTS will always be bigots. It has nothing to do with religion.
 

What is actually happening is you guys hating on a bunch of north african and middle eastern people because your countries never allowed these groups to grow out of poverty, nor did your countries ever give the people that wouldn't hate you a helping hand. THAT'S the real tea, if you guys wanna take the discussion there

 

Anyway the people in the OP are f**ked bigots and they're all brainwashed by religious beliefs that took form in a way that they never should have. Sucks to be dumb, hope these dumb people won't get more power

[Communion]

Just now, wastedpotential said:

Now girl I don't have the time to dig into the substance of your arguments but Hamtramck is literally an inner ring Detroit suburb of 28000 people lets not get the narrative twisted 

I'm confused what you're trying to dispute. 28k people is not a large amount of people for the Detriot metro area. See: Only 2000 votes being cast in the council elections in total. 

 

Maybe I'm misremembering mining being what trade used to dominate the town but the intro the WaPo article literally opens up with describing it how I have. That it was an industrial Polish enclave that saw its population drop as jobs went overseas and only started to revitalize into a suburb after more immigrants began to move to the the town 20 or so years ago.

[Blue Rose]

12 minutes ago, Taylena said:

The fact that there's several majority Christian countries that are very progressive and have laws protecting queer people, but in contrast you can't find a single majority Muslim country that doesn't systematically put queer people in danger, and yet you've people here trying to tell you these religions are all the same. 

They are not the same because Christians have done much much much worse and they continue to do so, but yall have selective memory 

[JustLikeHoney]

Who knew this would happen eventually. 

[ZIVERT]

All I’ll say is that it’s sad that this is tolerated. Muslims are victims of discrimination in the US themselves, and many LGBT people advocate for them. It’s sad that they aren’t held to the same standards as us, with the bare minimum of respecting our right to exist openly and proudly.

[hallucinate]

yes, extremists from all religions are bad but this thread is specifically about muslims/islam. there were similar threads about christians in here before

 

idk why that user gets so defensive when people rightfully criticize  

 

p.s. i live in a majority muslim country and you will never ever see me defend those losers

Edited September 19, 2023 by hallucinate

[wastedpotential]

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

They are not the same because Christians have done much much much worse and they continue to do so, but yall have selective memory 

Going case-by-case for individual crimes against gay people committed by Christians or Muslims is not going to come out in your favor sis 

 

I wonder what these countries all have in common?

[kataraqueen]

Just now, wastedpotential said:

Going case-by-case for individual crimes against gay people committed by Christians or Muslims is not going to come out in your favor sis 

 

I wonder what these countries all have in common?

That they were once occupied by European countries? Lmfao

[kataraqueen]

Country hates entire group of people and refuses to fund them > group of people remains dumb > same country gets confused about their decision making

 

the aliens are laughing rn

[shinyshimmery]

1 hour ago, bluceleste said:

Old white people vs homophobic muslim youth in Michigan

 

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How infuriating. Islamic extremists have no place in the US... they should stay in their 3rd world country. And for the love of Allah, please wear deodorant. Imagine being homophobic, misogynist, and smelling like ass to top it all off?!?!?! the audacity 

 

 

[VeniceBeach]

Speaking of IP addresses, I just know someone will have "Moscow, Russia" under their profile, they love communism, racebenders, and whataboutism over there


OT: This messy thread should be closed

[wastedpotential]

Just now, kataraqueen said:

That they were once occupied by European countries? Lmfao

And yet every single European country that once colonized them has, through internal societal pressure, chosen to decriminalize homosexuality and even legalize gay marriage. These countries have all been independently governed for decades and still choose to kill gay people. You can blame Europeans for the origins of the laws but not for their continued enforcement 

Acting as if the populations of these countries are incapable of change for the better is not a good look 

[Badgalbriel]

1 minute ago, kataraqueen said:

That they were once occupied by European countries? Lmfao

you do know that all the americas, australia, new zealand were occupied by european countries before too right? We're not perfect here in south america but our government is really not killing gays on a public square. 

[Blue Rose]

3 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Going case-by-case for individual crimes against gay people committed by Christians or Muslims is not going to come out in your favor sis 

 

I wonder what these countries all have in common?

You’re just proving what I just said “you guys have selective memory”  

[wastedpotential]

1 minute ago, VeniceBeach said:

Speaking of IP addresses, I just know someone will have "Moscow, Russia" under their profile, they love communism, racebenders, and whataboutism over there


OT: This messy thread should be closed

If only he was able to fully grasp what happens to gay people in Russia 

[Talento]

3 minutes ago, kataraqueen said:

That they were once occupied by European countries? Lmfao

But why isn't any of these countries European? And what of Latin America that was also occupied by Europe? It seems the common denominator is, indeed, the religion.

 

[shinyshimmery]

5 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

All I’ll say is that it’s sad that this is tolerated. Muslims are victims of discrimination in the US themselves, and many LGBT people advocate for them. It’s sad that they aren’t held to the same standards as us, with the bare minimum of respecting our right to exist openly and proudly.

Can't teach an old dog new tricks... this ain't nothing new and now we're here. What's next... they're going to spread like a plague. We already have mass shootings in this country due to religion/extreme ideologies. The US is becoming a dangerous place day by day. 

[Blue Rose]

1 minute ago, wastedpotential said:

And yet every single European country that once colonized them has, through internal societal pressure, chosen to decriminalize homosexuality and even legalize gay marriage. These countries have all been independently governed for decades and still choose to kill gay people. You can blame Europeans for the origins of the laws but not for their continued enforcement 

Acting as if the populations of these countries are incapable of change for the better is not a good look 

Even if those countries are technically independent, Europe still controls everything down to the laws and continues to steal their resources. There’s a term for it. It’s called neo-colonialism 

[State of Grace.]

22 minutes ago, Communion said:

ATRL really should just implement a feature that uses your IP address to forcefully show every user's location on their profile cause that Navy4Life dismissing hate crimes in the US overwhelmingly being committed by Christians shows this has nothing to do with protecting queer people and more to do with some of you having deeply rooted trauma you've not yet found a healthy outlet and space to interrogate and come to terms with. 

 

These types of conversations and the upsetting, extreme things they cause people to say out of emotional resentment shouldn't be entertaining.

EXACTLY. I reaaaally understand some of my fellow ex-Muslims trauma and extreme resentment but that also cannot be used an excuse to spew hateful ****. Many of them tend to do this out of religious/psychological trauma and rebelling against Islam without realizing that they're falling for some ****** up far-right rhetoric. I truly hope they all get to heal and slowly process all of that ****.  

 

I have struggled and continue to struggle almost daily in my Muslim majority country as well, I hate Islam as much as the average ****** here, but I am not going to cosign these ******* fools calling for mass deportation, genocide, etc of my people. Especially since to the west I'm still considered Muslim by default although I haven't identified as one in a decade.

 

I'm out of here, good luck for the next 10 pages sis

Edited September 19, 2023 by State of Grace.

[MingYouToo]

Using history of American/European government intervention in sociopolitics to justify why a certain sect of people behave a certain way does not change the fact that right now, in this moment, there is a rising influx of hate crimes directed towards the gay community by muslims. 

 

The fact that the users here who come from Muslim countries are the ones actually agreeing and the privileged freedom of speech gays here are the ones breaking their backs defending this behavior, since yall love to be technical let me ask y'all this @Communion @Blue Rose @Redstreak, in YOUR (keyword: YOUR) ideal forum, HOW should WE, queer people, REACT and FEEL to these statements? 

 

Don't give us the 'well i cant decide for everyone' no, since yall love breaking backs to rationalize why our anger is wrong, borderline bigoted and misinformed, HOW should we react, WHAT should be our posts and replies, HOW should we think and process this? Give us an idea please so we can try to see it from y'alls perspectives, since yall are so well-informed with geopolitics and political history 

Edited September 19, 2023 by MingYouToo

[kataraqueen]

Just now, wastedpotential said:

And yet every single European country that once colonized them has, through internal societal pressure, chosen to decriminalize homosexuality and even legalize gay marriage. These countries have all been independently governed for decades and still choose to kill gay people. You can blame Europeans for the origins of the laws but not for their continued enforcement 

Acting as if the populations of these countries are incapable of change for the better is not a good look 

Acting as if you having this thought isn't a direct result of your previlidged upbringing is  Not everyone got to go to elementary school and then secondary school without the fear of being shot (well... maybe Americans don't either LOL but that's definitely a discussion for another day). My point is that these countries were left in shambles by their occupiers so to blame a whole religion is basically exactly what your government wants you to do because it takes away their blame, which is the main cause of this 

 

Just now, Badgalbriel said:

you do know that all the americas, australia, new zealand were occupied by european countries before too right? We're not perfect here in south america but our government is really not killing gays on a public square. 

Europe REMAINED in power there and kicked the natives out like open a history book PLS They allowed the mafia from those other countries to take over so they could have oil from there 

[igninton]

 

14 minutes ago, Nido said:

Well if all religions are bad then what's wrong with disapproving a specific one that's related to the current topic discussion? Wouldn't it be off-topic to talk about something else? It's not like we're saying one thing is worse than the other

 

Most SJWs keep pretending Catholicism is an atrocity and are quick and cute to call out every single minor thing happening with their faith and yet turn a blind eye REPETEADLY whenever something is reported about Islam.

 

It's been like this for years hun, if this was about a Catholic-majority council the lashings and insults thrown in here would've been somehow "justified", I know my fellow hypocrites well.

 

[PoisonPill]

14 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

All this islamophobia over a Pride Flag, meanwhile a Christian missionary (why do we still allow this in 2023??) just slit his girlfriend throat because she got pregnant and he didn’t want his wife to find out. 

Most people are capable of holding two thoughts at the same time. Being disturbed by the rise of Islamic anti-queerness in the West is not an endorsement of all other religions that have homophobic legacies.