Distantconstellation Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Islam is just not compatible with the west unfortunately. There are too many bad apples that ruin it 8
CaptainMusic Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Communion said: What European countries currently implement "unlimited migration" policies? Belgium has a non-insignificant Muslim population of 5% of the total population, but most of those people have been there now for at least a generation (Moroccan and Turkish residents) and there's been no notable pattern of increased migration. Statistics show the Muslim population was over 500,000 as far back as 2005, so present numbers now at 750,000 doesn't indicate "unlimited immigration" is at play. None yet and it should stay that way, my comment was just in reference to the ideal scenario many liberal people have of multicultural countries. I used to support “unlimited migration” up until a few years ago but you realise It’s a fantasy, cases like this are proof that immigration laws need to be even tighter across Europe. Immigrants were/are not being vetted properly. The fact that many Muslims have been in Europe since the 90s and 2000s (or earlier), not changed their views and are passing those down to another generation proves my point even more. Islam is simply not compatible with the LGBT community. 6
Talento Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Communion said: What European countries currently implement "unlimited migration" policies? Belgium has a non-insignificant Muslim population of 5% of the total population, but most of those people have been there now for at least a generation (Moroccan and Turkish residents) and there's been no notable pattern of increased migration. Statistics show the Muslim population was over 500,000 as far back as 2005, so present numbers now at 750,000 doesn't indicate "unlimited immigration" is at play. Wow they make up such a small % of the population and are already causing this much trouble Besides the case in the OP there was also this... Scary!
Communion Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: None yet and it should stay that way, my comment was just in reference to the ideal scenario many liberal people have of multicultural countries. What political parties within Europe support "unlimited migration"? You've said this as matter of factly but have yet to show 1) who you're referencing specifically and 2) what these "unlimited immigration policies" look like in proposal? Are you trying to reference European countries being asked to increase refugee quotas for wars they fueled 6-7 years ago? I'm just asking you to clarify your statement. You're the one who mentioned immigration. Surely then you're able to articulate what you mean specifically. Significant portions of Muslims within Belgium, Moroccan-Belgians, have lived within the country for over 50 years and across multiple generations (with then the suggestion that future, native-born generations becoming more conservative than contradicting the claim the problem is migration). What specific statute within Belgian migration law do you find particularly problematic? If Muslim migration into Europe is already significantly limited, and you're calling for even further restrictions, I think you know it's dishonest to say your issue is with "unlimited migration". It then appears you're actually advocating for the nearly non-existent migration of Muslims into Europe. And based on this thread, I'm sure you'd get support for holding that view. I just think it's more productive to be straight-forward in what you mean. Edited September 17, 2023 by Communion 3
bliaz Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Talento said: Wow they make up such a small % of the population and are already causing this much trouble Besides the case in the OP there was also this... Scary! Keep defending them, you gays, they are coming for you and they will show no mercy. 6 3
Popular Post TheCheshireCat Posted September 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, Jormungand said: When will people realize that Islam is incompatible with modern society? Ex-Muslims have already warned us. I'm not saying we need to outlaw Islam, but if we give them an inch they will absolutely take a mile. what confuses me the most about hyper left gays who always defend religion in these threads with their 50 different whataboutisms, is that they also expect us to ignore and gaslight all the ex muslims who have lived with and fought against oppression in the name of this religion, but oh no that doesn’t matter apparently. I would like these gays to please show us all the muslim majority online communities that go out of their way to defend lgbt people whenever they get posted, in the same way they go SO HARD to defend people that are making it very clear they want nothing to do with us. 15 4
Miss Show Business Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Religion is a cancer. Religious extremism needs to be toppled. There should be zero tolerance for this kind of behavior and severe consequences. 9
CaptainMusic Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Communion said: If Muslim migration into Europe is already significantly limited, and you're calling for even further restrictions, I think you know it's dishonest to say your issue is with "unlimited migration". It then appears you're actually advocating for the nearly non-existent migration of Muslims into Europe. And based on this thread, I'm sure you'd get support for holding that view. I just think it's more productive to be straight-forward in what you mean. If migration was already significantly limited and immigrants were vetted as they should be then we wouldn’t be having these problems as often as we do. Nowhere did I advocate for the “nearly non-existent” migration of Muslims into Europe. You always have to go too far and see what you want to see, always ignoring the actual topic of the thread as well. I won’t be responding to anything else you say in this thread. 6 1
ProudLBS Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Talento said: Wow they make up such a small % of the population and are already causing this much trouble In Brussels they’re already 23% of the population Jesus Christ 1
Badgalbriel Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, Communion said: It then appears you're actually advocating for the nearly non-existent migration of Muslims into Europe. Yes, let's do that. No radical religious group should be allowed in a civilized society. Thanks. 8
SlowGinFizzzz Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 This dangerous ideology needs to be banned. Islam is incompatible with any progressive society, especially with regards to LGBTQ and women's rights. 7
LustSpell Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) If you immigrate, you assimilate to their culture and country. If you refuse, don't immigrate and stay in your own country. Like, if your religion must be forced down people's throats as a goal and you come to a country you aren't from and try forcing your OWN rules, then you need to shut the **** up. No one asked for all that. However, all religions but especially Islam, are incompatible with the 21st century. Civilized societies have better things to do than worship fake idols for some resemblance of "happiness". 4 hours ago, Jormungand said: but if we give them an inch they will absolutely take a mile. Whew. Hit it right on the nail. Edited September 18, 2023 by LustSpell 14
Communion Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: If migration was already significantly limited and immigrants were vetted as they should be then we wouldn’t be having these problems as often as we do. ....but you just claimed- when faced with the reality of certain Muslim populations being long within Europe - that the problem is also "newer generations getting more conservative". That's then an issue of integration, not migration. If Western values are inherently superior and self-actualizing, how then do people who grow up in such Western societies then not follow such values? Why do you feel entitled to lash out at people who find tackling issues like ghettoization and atomization that fuel radicalization more productive than incoherently claiming there's something afoul with migration laws while being unable to articulate what that problem then is? "Stop ignoring the actual topic" - you brought up the topic of migration despite there not even being evidence this was done by Muslims, let alone foreign-born Muslims. What would migration have to do with someone born in Belgium possibly committing a crime? The last thread where ATRL spent 4 pages going "it's time to face reality that those mongrels are subhuman!!" ended in the person responsible for an attack being a Christian and the thread going silent: 2 5
YellowRibbon Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 They should go back to the Middle East, Asia and Africa. Islam, like any other organized religion, is just a scam to control people. 9
Communion Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: Yes, let's do that. What would that look like logistically? Can you explain to me how you envision it? What exactly happens to the tens of millions of Muslims currently in Europe then?
Leppie Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Talento said: Wow they make up such a small % of the population and are already causing this much trouble Besides the case in the OP there was also this... Scary! What the actual FK!!
sxhunluv Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 The West should start utilizing the Rohingya treatment to those muslims. 2 6
FakeInsider Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 Gay friendly religion ( to some left wing extremists) strikes again
Bloodflowers. Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 Was just watching a Jubilee video on Muslims vs Ex-Muslims and queer Ex-Muslims had such a hard time living and being queer while raised Muslim that they had to leave Islam, it was so heartbreaking and tough to watch 4
nostalgic Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, sxhunluv said: The West should start utilizing the Rohingya treatment to those muslims. Genocide is not the answer here, what the **** 1
FakeInsider Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Communion said: If Muslim migration into Europe is already significantly limited, and you're calling for even further restrictions, I think you know it's dishonest to say your issue is with "unlimited migration". It then appears you're actually advocating for the nearly non-existent migration of Muslims into Europe. That would be a great idea
Communion Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, FakeInsider said: That would be a great idea 46 minutes ago, Communion said: What would that look like logistically? Can you explain to me how you envision it? What exactly happens to the tens of millions of Muslims currently in Europe then? .
Badgalbriel Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, Communion said: What would that look like logistically? Can you explain to me how you envision it? What exactly happens to the tens of millions of Muslims currently in Europe then? Demand that they give up on their religion and become atheist (this should be done to everyone). Religion should be criminalized. 4
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