celeb news Drew Barrymore pauses talk show return

[DAP]

29 minutes ago, okgo said:

we have no idea how Drew is doing (plenty of people we assume are doing very well are not) she will obv be chilling and never claimed otherwise, but all the other employees on her show might not. it's not just Drew and the 3 writers on strike that work there. If the show is canceled, everyone will be out of a job, not just Drew and the 3 writers who won't have a show to return to once the strike ends. Drew was wrong due to her position of power but people acting like she was only looking out for her best interests are being dense. The whole industry has stopped and that's the studios fault and it's also on the studios to pay everyone, not Drew

 

And the production crew understand that as much as anyone which is why the union that represents them (IATSE) is in solidarity with the striking actors and writers. Yet Drew wasn’t despite being in a better position to challenge the demands of the studio. What else would she be compelled by because it certainly wasn’t any concern for the people that work for her. 

[Uncatena]

2 minutes ago, undermyskin said:

Not sure how you got centrist out of somebody acknowledging the hypocrisy in most of the thought processes regarding this topic but okay. Y'all are so absolutist and are treating this so black and white and that's probably very easy to do when none if it's actually affecting you.

except that it IS black and white lmfao. telling a rich grown woman who should know better that she ****** up hugely and did the wrong thing isn’t “bullying”. having to live with the consequences of making a dumb choice is her burden, boo hoo. she should’ve paid her crew out of pocket because she can. there was 0 reason for her to scab and double down. 

 

some things are just very simple. sometimes doing the right thing is clear as day. and Drew didn’t do the right thing and people told her. now what?

[Headlock]

46 minutes ago, undermyskin said:

Congratulations yall! Y'all have bullied her into making a decision she didn't want to make because it's what YALL thought was right! We get mad when the Republican's/Conservatives do it but when we do it...not a problem!

 

 

What is this dumbass false equivalence 

[undermyskin]

3 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

The problem with Republicans isn't that they "force" people to do things they don't agree with. Their problem is the fact they're one of the major bastions for racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia and Christian nationalism.

 

Pressuring people into doing things they don't wanna is how most change happens. It's what they're being pressured into doing that matters. In this case, pressuring Drew into pausing her show is a good thing since it strengthens the strike. If her intentions are real or not is irrelevant. It's the action that matters.

Forcing people to do things they don't agree with = pressuring people into doing things they don't want to do. That's essentially the same sentence girl.

 

However, I do fully understand where you're coming from and girl, I'm here for the strike. These writers need to be paid. However, the way that people are looking at this so black and white with no gray area or wiggle room is insane. Drew was going to be in compliance with the strike when she came back. She wasn't going to hire non-WGA writers, she wasn't going to use writers. She was simply going to continue employment for the hundreds of other people that work on her show. 

 

Like it is so very easy for us to sit here on a pop music forum and scream solidarity and what not and that's cute! I do outside sales in New Jersey and I walked into a lighting and grip rental equipment company the other day and I was speaking with the warehouse manager. She was telling me how they've had to cut hours due to the strikes. Like why should these warehouse workers thousands of miles away that are so ultimately disconnected from any of this be affected by these strikes? It just feels like NOBODY is taking this into consideration. One of my best friends live in LA and she runes an aesthetics business. Her sales have been affected by the strike because people in LA no longer have extra money for things like that.

 

My roommate is my co-worker girl, if he went on strike tomorrow I'd fully support him but...I gotta pay my rent. Like the absolutist expectation that if you're in support of the strike you can't do anything but XYZ is crazy. People have bills to pay and families to support. And again, it's very easy to think like that when none of it as actually affecting you. To be completely honest, none of this is affecting me either but it seems like it's me and two other members of this forum that have the empathy to consider this. 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

Destroying her reputation just to cave in anyway

 

Celebrities like her are stupid

[undermyskin]

16 minutes ago, ChapelHooker said:

except that it IS black and white lmfao. telling a rich grown woman who should know better that she ****** up hugely and did the wrong thing isn’t “bullying”. having to live with the consequences of making a dumb choice is her burden, boo hoo. she should’ve paid her crew out of pocket because she can. there was 0 reason for her to scab and double down. 

 

some things are just very simple. sometimes doing the right thing is clear as day. and Drew didn’t do the right thing and people told her. now what?

Idk girl, I'm gonna have to disagree. It is NOT black and white. See one of my replies to another user in this thread for my opinion on why it's not. 

 

This line of thinking is crazy to me though. She should be paying her crew out of pocket indefinitely until the strike is over because she can? I'm honestly not sure y'all know how economics work. I'm sure Drew is well off but do you think she's a billionaire? 

 

If she employs 200 people and on average those 200 people make $50k a year. That's $4.1k a month per employee. $4.1k x 200employees = $820,000 a month out of pocket to pay her employees. The strike has been going on for four months. She would've spent 3.2m thus far with no end insight. That is NOT feasible. She'd likely have nothing left by the end of the year. If the strike is still going on then what do you propose? Because according to y'alls logic NOBODY can return to work until the strike is over even if they're in compliance with the guidelines. 

 

And again, this is MORE than just her and HER employees. Say she did pay her employees indefinitely until the end of the strike. The show still can't return until the end of the strike. Do you expect Drew to pay for example, warehouse workers for lighting and grip rental companies, that have had their hours cut due to the strikes? Because they're not going to get their hours back if no productions are going on just because Drew is paying her employees. 

Edited September 17, 2023 by undermyskin

[Vespertine]

Who even wants a Drew Barrymore talk show? She’s so cringe

 

Having to endure her awful MTV Movie Awards commercials every week (multiple times per episode) was the absolute worst thing about Drag Race this year. 

[okgo]

2 minutes ago, DAP said:

And the production crew understand that as much as anyone which is why the union that represents them (IATSE) is in solidarity with the striking actors and writers. Yet Drew wasn’t despite being in a better position to challenge the demands of the studio. What else would she be compelled by because it certainly wasn’t any concern for the people that work for her. 

Drew's clearly in solidarity too still, whether you believe it to be forced solidarity or not is semantics, the point is the show is not returning. We don't know any of these people or what's happening behind the scenes, maybe some of her employees are starting to grow frustrated as time passes and they might be the ones actually having trouble feeding their kids, Drew being in a better position doesn't mean she is in an easy or top position (and we can't expect her to be paying her entire crew herself because, again, we don't know what her life is like and, most importantly, that's on the STUDIOS - the ones who are actually responsible for all of this, who have the power to change it and deserve the continuous backlash) we're wasting time on Drew, she's ultimately a pawn in Hollywood and has been since she started working as a child to provide for her broke mother. Y'all should focus on getting The View canceled now too who continued to air despite having 2 WGA writers on staff and has not been made to be a big deal until Drew decided to follow suit if this is such a passionate issue (but something tells me no one will care as much).

 

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58 minutes ago, okgo said:

we asked her to reconsider and she did

Her doing something after she was caught, doesn’t automatically resolve or admonish her of her complicity. 

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29 minutes ago, DAP said:

And the production crew understand that as much as anyone which is why the union that represents them (IATSE) is in solidarity with the striking actors and writers. Yet Drew wasn’t despite being in a better position to challenge the demands of the studio. What else would she be compelled by because it certainly wasn’t any concern for the people that work for her. 

Thank you!

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11 minutes ago, okgo said:

Drew's clearly in solidarity too still, whether you believe it to be forced solidarity or not is semantics, the point is the show is not returning. We don't know any of these people or what's happening behind the scenes, maybe some of her employees are starting to grow frustrated as time passes and they might be the ones actually having trouble feeding their kids, Drew being in a better position doesn't mean she is in an easy or top position (and we can't expect her to be paying her entire crew herself because, again, we don't know what her life is like and, most importantly, that's on the STUDIOS - the ones who are actually responsible for all of this, who have the power to change it and deserve the continuous backlash) we're wasting time on Drew, she's ultimately a pawn in Hollywood and has been since she started working as a child to provide for her broke mother. Y'all should focus on getting The View canceled now too who continued to air despite having 2 WGA writers on staff and has not been made to be a big deal until Drew decided to follow suit if this is such a passionate issue (but something tells me no one will care as much).

 

Serious question, why are you capping so hard for someone you also don’t even know, whilst simultaneously telling us we also don’t know what’s going on? Make it make sense. 

[undermyskin]

3 minutes ago, Charcoal Baby said:

Serious question, why are you capping so hard for someone you also don’t even know, whilst simultaneously telling us we also don’t know what’s going on? Make it make sense. 

I don't think they're "capping so hard for someone" as much as they're just willing to be open minded and potentially see where she might've been coming from (because they don't know what is actually going on behind the scenes) vs the witch trial y'all are having in this thread.

Edited September 17, 2023 by undermyskin

[okgo]

Just now, Charcoal Baby said:

Her doing something after she was caught, doesn’t automatically resolve or admonish her of her complicity. 

Oh you don't need to tell me that, I'm already aware this hyper-progressive and hyper-puritan online culture that'll obsess over this until they find something else to focus on is always quick to offer judgment with little potential for redemption.

And she wasn't "caught" lol she literally updated the world every step of the way and didn't even end up doing anything  

 

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1 minute ago, undermyskin said:

witch trial y'all are having in this thread.

“Witch trial” is crazy; if holding someone accountable is a considered a witch trial, then I worry about your conscience. 
 

1 minute ago, okgo said:

Oh you don't need to tell me that, I'm already aware this hyper-progressive and hyper-puritan online culture that'll obsess over this until they find something else to focus on is always quick to offer judgment with little potential for redemption.

And she wasn't "caught" lol she literally updated the world every step of the way and didn't even end up doing anything  

 

But that’s the thing, she WAS caught. Audience members got kicked out of the studio for a live taping for wearing WGA pins, and once the studio started receiving backlash she reacted, instead of being proactive. 

[JustHoran]

1 hour ago, Jaded. said:

Well it's Jojo - Too Little Too Late and she may have paused her career in the process.

Drew has stopped acting anyway. She only wants to do the talk show.

[undermyskin]

4 minutes ago, Charcoal Baby said:

“Witch trial” is crazy; if holding someone accountable is a considered a witch trial, then I worry about your conscience. 
 

But that’s the thing, she WAS caught. Audience members got kicked out of the studio for a live taping for wearing WGA pins, and once the studio started receiving backlash she reacted, instead of being proactive. 

Accountable to what though? A standard that you believe should be upheld when this strike is affecting SO many peoples incomes and their daily lives? This is exactly what I'm saying. It is not black and white. We're not talking about abortion or LGBT rights where the opposing side is absolutely NO way effected.

Edited September 17, 2023 by undermyskin

[Frozen99]

1 hour ago, glitch said:

She could've done this before recording that cringe video 

did she defend the decision?  i was about to say she finally learnt her lesson but lemme just not say anything lol

[Gladiator]

Nothing is ever good enough for some people. lol.

[okgo]

4 minutes ago, Charcoal Baby said:

Serious question, why are you capping so hard for someone you also don’t even know, whilst simultaneously telling us we also don’t know what’s going on? Make it make sense. 

I'm not capping so hard for anyone, I literally stated Drew was wrong in this very thread I'm simply providing a possible (realistic) scenario but y'all don't seem to like it when people don't view things the only way you want to believe is factual (even when we're not privy to the full information as we've both said). If anything I've also stated multiple times how we could all use this energy and redirect it to the real evil here, the AMPTP but y'all are more interested and passionate about forming the Drew Barrymore hate club instead and making everyone else that doesn't want to join seem like an adversary so... Meanwhile the strike is still going and plenty of people are running out of money to support their livelihood

 

[Gladiator]

47 minutes ago, undermyskin said:

Not sure how you got centrist out of somebody acknowledging the hypocrisy in most of the thought processes regarding this topic but okay. Y'all are so absolutist and are treating this so black and white and that's probably very easy to do when none if it's actually affecting you.

What you said is absolutely correct. People just cannot bare being seen in the same light as republicans in any way, who they view as absolute evil, but the behavior exhibited is exactly the same.

[Afterglow]

1 hour ago, Charcoal Baby said:

You do understand the significance and importance of the current strikes in Hollywood right? We should all care because it’s also a human rights issue at this point. Come on now. 

Oh is there some sorta trickle down effect from Hollywood to Blue Collar and below? Why should we care? I don't. 

[glitch]

9 minutes ago, Frozen99 said:

did she defend the decision?  i was about to say she finally learnt her lesson but lemme just not say anything lol

Yeah after the ig statement, she posted a 4 minute video explaining the situation and defending herself. It was only like 2 days ago too 

[Bloodflowers.]

I'm not gonna do too much on Drew, she is a sweet person and clearly suffers from longterm mental health issues, so continuing to push her poor decision through the mud will only trigger negative consequences that I would hope can be avoided. I think she got pressured to continue the show from the network from some NDA contract stuff, but Drew doesn't understand that her audience is watched by predominately liberal viewers who gravitate torwards her and stuff like this simply doesn't fly without negative feedback. I hope she will learn from this and not take it too much to heart because I know she is very fragile person and isn't really mean-spirited. It sucks that this all happened but hopefully she will have support when she does come back eventually.

 

[Freakshowvato]

Why are people still attacking her? She gave everyone what they wanted and obvi grew in the process of being attacked.

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8 minutes ago, Afterglow said:

Oh is there some sorta trickle down effect from Hollywood to Blue Collar and below? Why should we care? I don't. 

Now you sound just plain ignorant. YES, there is a trickle down effect to regular people like (presumably you) and me, who have families and depend on acting/background roles to support their families full-time. Do some research before making a comment and being overall loud and wrong. 
 

AT LEAST @okgo & @undermyskin are participating in productive discourse and know what they’re talking about and willing to have differing opinions, but you just saying “why should we care? I don’t.” Is exactly what’s wrong with people that don’t understand the purpose of strikes and unions.
 

I pray that you never end up in a position where someone has to care about and support you.