Bonicap Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: Wait... how is it 30K-40K lower than SOUR when her pure sales are better this time around and the streams are nearly identical in the US? Sour ended up with 300M streams and they are predicting 170-190M for Guts. Anyway, their first prediction for Sour was 195-220k and ended up doing 295k. I don't think this time it will grow that much, but still.
worldwide angel Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 these numbers are impressive, am i missing something?
drivers license Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Nashe said: great numbers!! though she'll have to reinvent a bit for her 3rd era if she wants to stay at the top. Similar to Avril kinda lol she’ll be in her 20’s so she better tbh. the teen angst wouldn’t sell anymore, i know she will grow both as a person & an artist. i guess she went for a gradual evolution for now which is more natural & not forced. 1
Trent W Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 Her era is really serving HTE but without the negativity Let‘s see if this album has its own HTE song that carries the album for months and becomes a lowkey classic 3
PoisonedIvy Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 Interesting prediction, I expect it to go a little higher
Sombre Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) This thread is already unbearable and we're only on page 2. Can some of y'all not be annoying? Trust us, we know she won't sell as much as Taylor Swift. Literally no one cares. Move on, please. Anyway, this is impressive considering sophomore slumps and all. Happy for her. Edited September 9, 2023 by Sombre 7
QueenofCopyPaste Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Trent W said: Her era is really serving HTE but without the negativity Let‘s see if this album has its own HTE song that carries the album for months and becomes a lowkey classic How? this is serving "GUTS" Vampire is a #1 hit and the second single is going #3 this week NOT SIMILAR Edited September 9, 2023 by QueenofCopyPaste
Blue Rose Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 Great numbers for both. There’s nothing for the losers to drag. Huge win for Olivia and V doing 100K for an EP is tremendous 3
Sharamee6 Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 I thought Olivia would've easily done 350K. Anyway good for her
Nefertiti0 Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Carry My Heart said: Apparently 9 vinyl variants and multiple CDs don't get you a 1M+ debut. Who'd have thought there are more 1
drivers license Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Trent W said: Her era is really serving HTE but without the negativity Let‘s see if this album has its own HTE song that carries the album for months and becomes a lowkey classic i really don’t understand where the HTE comparisons are coming from
JoJo Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Trent W said: Her era is really serving HTE but without the negativity Let‘s see if this album has its own HTE song that carries the album for months and becomes a lowkey classic I don’t get the HTE comparisons. Vampire might return to #1 next week and GUTS debuted with 60m streams on Spotify. but yeah, hopefully this album will have a HTE sized hit because it probably won’t have the same longevity as SOUR.
LoveInStereo Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 FTR, the site poll from 4 days ago had 12 users predict she’d do 500k+ so it feels convenient that everybody’s universally claiming now that these numbers are totally what we all expected. Somebody is lying! 1 2
Blue Rose Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Carry My Heart said: Apparently 9 vinyl variants and multiple CDs don't get you a 1M+ debut. Who'd have thought The trick is to have different covers. She only has 2 of those
Squall Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, drivers license said: i really don’t understand where the HTE comparisons are coming from Two sophomore albums from the biggest new girls but yeah, they didn’t even have the same rollout, it doesn’t make sense.
Maroonx Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 smh at people already calling it a flop... so many other acts aren't even selling this much on the first week. She's not TS (even if she had 50 variants she was never gonna come anywhere near what Tay can sell). These are good numbers, Olivia's doing pretty good!
Carry My Heart Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: The trick is to have different covers. She only has 2 of those The "trick" you're referring to is just pandering to collectors, which is exactly what pressing 12 vinyl variants is intended to achieve. 2
JoJo Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) I think the pure sales are going to increase now that we know about the secret tracks on each vinyl. Maybe 270k-280k, or maybe even 300K if the streaming numbers don’t decrease significantly throughout the week. Edited September 9, 2023 by JoJo
Blue Rose Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Carry My Heart said: The "trick" you're referring to is just pandering to collectors, which is exactly what pressing 12 vinyl variants is intended to achieve. Yes but it works best when you have different artworks. The different colors are cute but different covers are gorgeous, and you know gorgeous is gonna devour cute. 1 1
Carry My Heart Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: Yes but it works best when you have different artworks. The different colors are cute but different covers are gorgeous, and you know gorgeous is gonna devour cute. So why didn't she just do that? It would've been substantially cheaper to have 4 variants with different covers as opposed to 12 alternate pressings with 2 covers among them. Seems like an oversight on her team's part. Edited September 9, 2023 by Carry My Heart
Walk_Away21 Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, drivers license said: ?? this is your 2nd post in a row about our prediction that didn’t exist People in the streaming thread said based on her first day streams and vinyls she was trending to 500k. Maybe I got trolled.
JoJo Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, LoveInStereo said: FTR, the site poll from 4 days ago had 12 users predict she’d do 500k+ so it feels convenient that everybody’s universally claiming now that these numbers are totally what we all expected. Somebody is lying! The people who predicted 500k were OOHs . The rest of us predicted 250k-300k.
Billionaire Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 More or less the same numbers as HTE yet that was deemed a flop/underperformance? Interesting I think it can grow to at least 290k-300k seeing how HDD usually underestimates pure sales.
Trent W Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, JoJo said: I don’t get the HTE comparisons. Vampire might return to #1 next week and GUTS debuted with 60m streams on Spotify. but yeah, hopefully this album will have a HTE sized hit because it probably won’t have the same longevity as SOUR. It’s basically around the same debut numbers and they will probably end around the same amount of hits TIA and HTE were big hits, and Olivia so far has scored two But Billie was mostly shamed for her image change than her chart performance to be fair
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