Digitalism Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 I truly don't know if this is real or not but what I found incredible is that you believe anything just because a publication said it. This is hollywood. There have been countles situations where movie studios and labels fed the press what they wanted for PR.
byzantium Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 The hive’s obsession with attacking other female artists needs to be studied. 9 2
Dreajae Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, YellowRibbon said: Not the revisionism please.... The Hive started acting up as soon as the pre-sales for The Eras Tour went up (iirc). The Hive in here has been chill for the most part, but the neverending shadiness on other social media platforms has been embarrassing (and SOME members of that base have adopted it for unclear reasons). The PR for the Eras tour has been notable since the presale. The presale numbers, the "people" waiting to buy tickets and reports of fans paying as much as $20k for a ticket. The economic impact articles started with Taylor while media decided to report that Bey caused inflation. Please. Every win Beyonce has had this era, with notable less fanfare, yall have been upset about it. Unfortunately no one wants to bring up the bullying cause Beyonce is who she is. But when someone like SZA is being bullied, the M.O of Swiftes becomes clear. They don't like women, especially black. 1 2
ForgottenSoul Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, liam13 said: theyre being sarcastic OT: smoke and mirror!!! lock her up Its hard to know here because Beyonce fans are pretty delusional.
YellowRibbon Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Dreajae said: The PR for the Eras tour has been notable since the presale. The presale numbers, the "people" waiting to buy tickets and reports of fans paying as much as $20k for a ticket. The economic impact articles started with Taylor while media decided to report that Bey caused inflation. Please. Every win Beyonce has had this era, with notable less fanfare, yall have been upset about it. Unfortunately no one wants to bring up the bullying cause Beyonce is who she is. But when someone like SZA is being bullied, the M.O of Swiftes becomes clear. They don't like women, especially black. You just made that up. Swiffers only got bitter quite recently, we just didn't care about the RWT until some Hive members started to act shady. I guarantee you that Swifties were not the ones to throw the first rock. 1
Jjang Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, byzantium said: The hive’s obsession with attacking other female artists needs to be studied. as if this is not a response to the plethora of closeted racist swifties continuously raining on Bey’s parade + calling her studied impact on black culture “vibez” just because it can’t be measured in Hot 100 points. even running their mouths as far as saying Bey “overbooked a low demand” cause she cancelled 1 show due to schedule conflicts because they were so mad an article said Bey also could have booked dozens more stadiums, not just Taylor. You reap what you sow. Edited September 1, 2023 by Jjang 3 7
Badgalbriel Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dreajae said: The PR for the Eras tour has been notable since the presale. The presale numbers, the "people" waiting to buy tickets and reports of fans paying as much as $20k for a ticket. The economic impact articles started with Taylor while media decided to report that Bey caused inflation. Please. Every win Beyonce has had this era, with notable less fanfare, yall have been upset about it. Unfortunately no one wants to bring up the bullying cause Beyonce is who she is. But when someone like SZA is being bullied, the M.O of Swiftes becomes clear. They don't like women, especially black. Is it really PR when it has the title of the biggest tour of all time attached to it? Why would it need PR? 5
Dreajae Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: You just made that up. Swiffers only got bitter quite recently, we just didn't care about the RWT until some Hive members started to act shady. I guarantee you that Swifties were not the ones to throw the first rock. You're deluded. The end. 2
Dreajae Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: Is it really PR when it has the title of the biggest tour of all time attached to it? Why would it need PR? Sure. Still waiting for the $2.2B in U.S revenue alone to be reported. 1
Badgalbriel Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Dreajae said: Sure. Still waiting for the $2.2B in U.S revenue alone to be reported. That was literally the same as RWT getting 2.2B predictions from Forbes lol. 1
byzantium Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jjang said: as if this is not a response to the plethora of closeted racist swifties continuously raining on Bey’s parade + calling her studied impact on black culture “vibez” just because it can’t be measured in Hot 100 points. even running their mouths as far as saying Bey “overbooked a low demand” cause she cancelled 1 show due to schedule conflicts. You reap what you sow. Playing the victim I see. Let’s not pretend that the Hive has been going after swifties, playing down all her achievements, attacking her fans directly etc. This is hardly one sided as you claim. Edited September 1, 2023 by byzantium 1 5 1
YellowRibbon Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Dreajae said: You're deluded. The end. Not really, you just resort call other people "delusional" when the narrative doesn't benefit you
YellowRibbon Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Dreajae said: Sure. Still waiting for the $2.2B in U.S revenue alone to be reported. Isn't that 2.2B what Forbes predicted the RWT to gross in NA ?(while in real life, it's yet to cross 500M with only 10 dates left to go) I'm sorry but I think you're mixing things up.
EmailMySwift Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dreajae said: Beyonce PR isn't nearly as massive 1
Beyonnaise Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) The thread isn’t even an exposé and runs with some weird ideas of what “boosting the economy” even means. The “$5B in economic activity” claim was put out by some random survey company, not her team. That economist he quoted saying “rock and roll shows don’t actually generate money because the artist doesn’t invest that money in the city and takes it for themselves” is so…? Huh? No one claimed Taylor Swift’s ticket sales alone boosted the economy in the areas she toured in. The claim, including by the Fed, was that many hotels and restaurants in the surrounding areas hit record sales in mostly all cities she toured in on the weekends she was there, which is just straightforwardly true if you look into local coverage from each of the cities. Edited September 1, 2023 by Beyonnaise 3 3 2
YellowRibbon Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Beyonnaise said: The thread isn’t even an exposé and runs with some weird ideas of what “boosting the economy” even means. The “$5B in economic activity” claim was put out by some random survey company, not her team. That economist he quoted saying “rock and roll shows don’t actually generate money because the artist doesn’t invest that money in the city and takes it for themselves” is so…? Huh? No one claimed Taylor Swift’s ticket sales alone boosted the economy in the areas she toured in. The claim, including by the Fed, was that many hotels and restaurants in the surrounding era hit record sales in mostly all cities she toured in on the weekends she was there, which is just straightforwardly true if you look into local coverage from each of the cities. "The feelings, not facts" crowd can't accept hard numbers. 2
Rev8 Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Lovett said: Did Taylor's PR team purposefully spread these news stories to bolster attention to her tour? It's obvious at this point No attack towards Taylor (since I do like her and she is probably the most successful artist since she debuted) but a lot of artist really do use PR to increase their reputation and in-turn - affect sales and success. She literally is a great strategist, so this shouldn't surprise anyone. This doesn't mean Taylor doesn't have any impact or success tho. But I wouldn't expect ATRL to have a calm discussion without straight-out attacking each other - - - The Industry is a lot of fraud -it's greatly smoke and mirrors. That goes to All our favs, not just her. 1
Dreajae Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: That was literally the same as RWT getting 2.2B predictions from Forbes lol. A Forbes writer "reported" it with no official sources and still made it clear where they stand. Quote Those eyepopping estimates are based on the most optimistic assumptions of the number of fans buying tickets at their concerts and high average ticket prices of about $700. They also assume the artists take home a considerable share of merchandise proceeds and pay tour expenses of 20% of revenues — leaving them with the other 80%. The article was also posted just as Beys tour started. It was psuedo positive press meant to stroke the flames and ultimately hype Taylor. That article was not positive at all. None of the stan pages took it seriously.
Jon Snow Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: PLEASE. A thread like this is made by a Hive (aka the fanbase that tries to hardest to go after Taylor) and you think there was no agenda here, especially when he's been trolling the whole time about wanting a "discussion" yet never actually discussing anything? Just stop already, it's beyond pathetic at this point If you take a look at Taylor and Beyonce's base threads, you'll see really quickly which fanbase is more obsessed with hating the other pop girl. And spoiler: it's not Swifties. I have never took a look into Taylors base thread, and I am not planning to. I am in Beyonce base thread every day, and we talk about outfits, Viola Davis, never coming visuals, some blame Beyonce and some defend her, and we fight amongst ourselves. Whenever there is a Beyonce thread, it would be full of Swifties. Go to yesterday's threads about RWT gross. I hate to break it to you, but Swifties constantly attack Beyonce for no reason and are constantly racist towards her (even though they probably aren't aware that their actions are racist). If Hive is wrong, then just ignore the Hive. Your fave would still be the best. You have nothing to prove. On the other had, you just outed yourself to be a visitor of Beyonce base thread. Why are you going there? 2 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: I guarantee you that Swifties were not the ones to throw the first rock. Replies from every Beyonce thread disagree 1 2
YellowRibbon Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Dreajae said: A Forbes writer "reported" it with no official sources and still made it clear where they stand. The article was also posted just as Beys tour started. It was psuedo positive press meant to stroke the flames and ultimately hype Taylor. That article was not positive at all. None of the stan pages took it seriously. The mental gymnastics... Just stop, Taylor Swift doesn't need excessive amounts of PR because she still enjoys the best of both worlds (GP interest and probably the largest musical fanbase on Earth)
Badgalbriel Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dreajae said: A Forbes writer "reported" it with no official sources and still made it clear where they stand. The article was also posted just as Beys tour started. It was psuedo positive press meant to stroke the flames and ultimately hype Taylor. That article was not positive at all. None of the stan pages took it seriously. So for Beyoncé there's an excuse. For Taylor (which will indeed gross something close to 2B) it's PR. Gotcha. 2 5
byzantium Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Jon Snow said: Replies from every Beyonce thread disagree I mean just look at how often Beyoncé fans are in Taylor threads or starting threads like this. 1 3 1
YellowRibbon Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Jon Snow said: I have never took a look into Taylors base thread, and I am not planning to. I am in Beyonce base thread every day, and we talk about outfits, Viola Davis, never coming visuals, some blame Beyonce and some defend her, and we fight amongst ourselves. Whenever there is a Beyonce thread, it would be full of Swifties. Go to yesterday's threads about RWT gross. I hate to break it to you, but Swifties constantly attack Beyonce for no reason and are constantly racist towards her (even though they probably aren't aware that their actions are racist). If Hive is wrong, then just ignore the Hive. Your fave would still be the best. You have nothing to prove. On the other had, you just outed yourself to be a visitor of Beyonce base thread. Why are you going there? Replies from every Beyonce thread disagree Beyoncé threads that were made AFTER the Hive threw the first rock, let's not fool ourselves now 1
EmailMySwift Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said: I have never took a look into Taylors base thread, and I am not planning to. I am in Beyonce base thread every day, and we talk about outfits, Viola Davis, never coming visuals, some blame Beyonce and some defend her, and we fight amongst ourselves. Whenever there is a Beyonce thread, it would be full of Swifties. Go to yesterday's threads about RWT gross. I hate to break it to you, but Swifties constantly attack Beyonce for no reason and are constantly racist towards her (even though they probably aren't aware that their actions are racist). If Hive is wrong, then just ignore the Hive. Your fave would still be the best. You have nothing to prove. On the other had, you just outed yourself to be a visitor of Beyonce base thread. Why are you going there? Replies from every Beyonce thread disagree That's nice. Meanwhile, this thread was made by a Beyonce stan to belittle Taylor. So not as innocent as you claim! 2
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