celeb news Taylor Swift boosting the economy a lie? Journalist fact checks...

[EmailMySwift]

1 minute ago, Lovett said:

Again, this isn't downplaying her "achievements", it's a journalist who has found the that articles were misleading in their reporting. You're taking it as a personal attack. There's a difference, you just don't seem interested in seeing or acknowledging it.

Sorry but this "I'm unbiased, only interested in upholding journalistic reporting and it actually has nothing to do with Taylor or stanwars" take is not landing. On ATRL.net?? At least own up to it lol. 

[Lovett]

Just now, EmailMySwift said:

Sorry but this "I'm unbiased, only interested in upholding journalistic reporting and it actually has nothing to do with Taylor or stanwars" take is not landing. On ATRL.net?? At least own up to it lol. 

I have no interest in 'owning up' to your perception of me, or my intentions.

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, byzantium said:

And yesterday’s threads were a reaction to prior threads last week which were reactions to threads last month etc.  What is the value in justifying this cycle of attacks? 

I rarely even enter Taylor threads, but I see you in every Beyonce thread. From my point of view, you are the bully 

 

Fighting about Taylor's numbers is dumb and pointless, no one sane would doubt her numbers are high and her impact is real. And yet, Beyonce is always being compared to her so Taylor would be presented as the higher one. Just go back to see how many replies in this thread by Swifties are saying that Beyonce is "number two". Why the complex? Why are Swifties so concerned about what Hive will say in Beyonce base thread? If she's the best, you have nothing to prove

[bluebirdsforever]

The way y'all are terminally incapable of keeping it cute

 

Stay on topic or the warning points will stay flying

 

 

[JustHoran]

Noah P is a known loser and Beyonce stan who has to tear every artist down that isn't Beyonce 

[Steve Johnson]

The 1st page lashings 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Steve Johnson

[Steve Johnson]

The Eras tour is the biggest and best tour of all time. $5 billion is true 

[Jjang]

1 hour ago, Badgalbriel said:

You not only participate in the "Bey vs Taylor" debate, you participate in the "anyone Vs Taylor" debate.

Taylor is a massive pop cultural force right now so it's only natural you'd catch me commenting on threads where she's the main topic. Just because my opinion of hers happens to be mostly negative (I think she's a white feminist, an overrated lyricist, and a mid-performer at best, which I'm literally allowed to think) does not mean that I do not give her credit when I see fit or that I'm on this mission to spend all of my time here dragging her non-objectively, which is your fake version of events. Just because my Taylor positivity spectrum is not as high as you'd want it to be does not give you the right to judge me so superficially. 

 

Some comments from this week: 

 

me saying Taylor is at her creative peak right now (positive comment) 

 

 

me, crediting both Red & 1989 for widening her Pop appeal (positive comment): 

 

 

 

me staying neutral and giving Taylor her credit for her massive numbers despite the attempts of a Swiftie to troll a bey thread: 

 

 

my issue with a lot of Swift fans is that they're disrespectful to other female artists' legacies (and bluntly racist when it comes to Bey's) and have a strict "don't have any opinion that doesn't 100% align with ours" policy. 

 

For instance, yesterday: 

 

 here are the Swifities, getting mad at me for saying the majority of them are pretty chill and level headed, but the rest of them are not immune to criticism: 

 

 

Here are the swifties getting mad at me for saying Taylor is different than Madonna and is great at what she does, is slaying the box office, is the biggest female pop star since Madonna, is impactful in her own lane, and will eclipse her commercially at one point but noted that it's disrespectful to dismiss Madonna's legacy by saying Taylor is "above it": 

 

 

 

The truth of the matter is that Swifties can only detect utter disrespect when it comes to their own faves. Your reply will be a downvote and "omg an essay" because you're that predictable. 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Jjang

[Jjang]

25 minutes ago, Lovett said:

I have no interest in 'owning up' to your perception of me, or my intentions.

You're the sane one don't worry 

[Cloröx]

I didn't expect the temporarily title of the biggest female tour did some damage on Beyhive 

[EmailMySwift]

This is her economic impact on theatres yesterday. Mind you, the 26M comes from AMC alone, not other chains. I believe her tour did boost the economy! 

 

 

[mxoonlight]

the reports  

[Nnnv]

There are substantial evidences against his claims because economist themselves have studied how consumer spending trends were boosted by ‘Eras tour’ tremendously; especially in hotel sector and local clothing stores . Administration of Tampa and Glendale themselves reported on profits generated by the impact of tour ,which happens to surpass that of super bowl weekend. 
 

what he claims is that he himself researched that notion of ‘Taylor boosting economy’. However , a research isn’t just done based on reading journals or articles , you have to get it peer reviewed or be posted by a reputable source which he definitely isn’t because he is just involving himself in fanatic stan wars of Beyoncé’s few fans against media hegemony of Taylor Swift due to her sheer cultural popularity 

 

anyway what he basically did was nitpick … 

[Lemon]

Haters here pretending they are neutral, objective and/or indifferent towards Taylor… 

And opening this conversation against official reports and estimates. 

 

Is this how some people like to spend their free time? Is this fun? No judging though, but still. 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Lemon

[Taylena]

If The Eras Tour economy impact is all a lie, like that fanbase is claiming in this thread, then why are Presidents and cities representatives all around the world begging her to stop by their countries and hold concerts there? I don't see other female artists, some who actually had similar articles written about their tour, being so vehemently asked for tour dates in their countries. Why? 

[Kill Me]

29 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Taylor is a massive pop cultural force right now so it's only natural you'd catch me commenting on threads where she's the main topic. Just because my opinion of hers happens to be mostly negative (I think she's a white feminist, an overrated lyricist, and a mid-performer at best, which I'm literally allowed to think) does not mean that I do not give her credit when I see fit or that I'm on this mission to spend all of my time here dragging her non-objectively, which is your fake version of events. Just because my Taylor positivity spectrum is not as high as you'd want it to be does not give you the right to judge me so superficially. 

 

Some comments from this week: 

 

me saying Taylor is at her creative peak right now (positive comment) 

 

 

me, crediting both Red & 1989 for widening her Pop appeal (positive comment): 

 

 

 

me staying neutral and giving Taylor her credit for her massive numbers despite the attempts of a Swiftie to troll a bey thread: 

 

 

my issue with a lot of Swift fans is that they're disrespectful to other female artists' legacies (and bluntly racist when it comes to Bey's) and have a strict "don't have any opinion that doesn't 100% align with ours" policy. 

 

For instance, yesterday: 

 

 here are the Swifities, getting mad at me for saying the majority of them are pretty chill and level headed, but the rest of them are not immune to criticism: 

 

 

Here are the swifties getting mad at me for saying Taylor is different than Madonna and is great at what she does, is slaying the box office, is the biggest female pop star since Madonna, is impactful in her own lane, and will eclipse her commercially at one point but noted that it's disrespectful to dismiss Madonna's legacy by saying Taylor is "above it": 

 

 

 

The truth of the matter is that Swifties can only detect utter disrespect when it comes to their own faves. Your reply will be a downvote and "omg an essay" because you're that predictable. 

 

 

Ain't you tired Miss Hilly?

These LONG essays with the same tired narrative and excuses over and OVER AND OVER in every single thread.

Maybe take a break instead of abusing your keyboard with them fat greasy fingers...

[Peak Now]

Literally every thread with "Taylor Swift" in its title has gone on trending topics lmao. The way she's running ATRL like the navy

 

OT: The Federal Reserve said so, so either the Fed is on Tree's payroll or people are suddenly being much more nitpicky than usual!

[NausAllien]

Of course it's a LIE. Everything that surrounds Taylor is just smoke & mirrors and a VERY good publicity machine.

 

But I fully expect that journalist to be harass by Swifties and forced to recant his story. That's what they always do...

 

 

[Popboi.]

1 hour ago, Lovett said:

Again, this isn't downplaying her "achievements", it's a journalist who has found the that articles were misleading in their reporting. You're taking it as a personal attack. There's a difference, you just don't seem interested in seeing or acknowledging it.

The "difference" in question is called hypocrisy. Look it up

[Jjang]

3 minutes ago, Miss Americana said:

These LONG essays

41 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Your reply will be "omg an essay" because you're that predictable. 

 

 

 

OT - PR articles aside (which I thought everyone just assumed were sensationalized) both Bey and Taylor's numbers are un-dragable and are making more than yall will make your entire lives  

 

[Lovett]

1 minute ago, Popboi. said:

The "difference" in question is called hypocrisy. Look it up

No, it seems more like you're frustrated that it's being discussed at all. Figures.

[istan4badgalriri]

7 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

Of course it's a LIE. Everything that surrounds Taylor is just smoke & mirrors and a VERY good publicity machine.

 

But I fully expect that journalist to be harass by Swifties and forced to recant his story. That's what they always do...

 

 

the linked article omg they are insane

[Popboi.]

8 minutes ago, Lovett said:

No, it seems more like you're frustrated that it's being discussed at all. Figures.

No, it's hypocrisy to be first in line to claim "but they're undermining x and y!!!!!" to the Swifties and then make the flamebait title pinpointing 'Noah Pransky' trying to rebuke the plethora of reports of The Eras Tour's economic impact, when he's actually pinpointing ALL tours aren't boosting the economy, Beyoncé included.

 

If you want to make a "discussion", at least, you know, don't make it cheap flamebait.

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Popboi.

[Lovett]

Just now, Popboi. said:

No, it's hypocrisy to be first in line to claim "but they're undermining x and y!!!!!" to the Swifties and then make the flame bait title pinpointing 'Noah Pransky' trying to rebuke the plethora of reports of The Eras Tour's economic impact, when he's actually pinpointing ALL tours aren't boosting the economy, Beyoncé included.

 

If you want to make a "discussion", at least, you know, don't make it cheap flamebait.

 

Nothing about my title is flamebait, it's an accurate reflection of the journalist's Twitter thread. It was also posted several hours before the above tweet you've linked.  If you weren't so worked up at the discussion, maybe you would've spotted that.

 

Also, haven't the Swifties been complaining for most of this thread that he's a member of the Hive so was only posting this to shade Taylor? Now what? 

[Kill Me]

8 minutes ago, Jjang said:

 

 

Ofcourse you would say this after already being dragged thrice for writing essays in a single thread from this week.

I thought you would have some dignity and write some cute quirky drag and leave this thread alone but that was asking for too much from an obsessed pathetic loser, I guess.