artist stats Why did JoJo's rerecordings fail yet Taylor's succeeded?

[sherloid_bai]

Both JoJo and Taylor Swift rerecorded their albums due to similar circumstances (JoJo didn't own the masters to her first two albums and her label didn't put them on streaming services amid her legal battle with them). While JoJo rerecorded her first two albums in 2018, the label put the originals on streaming services in 2021 and the fans/public fled back to the originals despite JoJo telling them that she won't get any money from these streams.

 

 

Daily streams from Kworb:

Song Title	Streams	Daily
Too Little Too Late	215,670,981	131,037
Leave (Get Out)	120,384,595	71,991
Too Little Too Late - 2018	66,857,349	14,725
Leave (Get Out) - 2018	41,138,996	8,380
Baby It's You	23,315,332	25,785
Baby It's You - 2018	22,444,510	5,625

 

With Taylor's Versions smashing why do JoJo's Versions still get stomped by the originals?

[mystery]

Because JoJo is not Taylor Swift.

[Raver]

OG’s > Rerecordings 

[a_d_22]

i didn’t even know who jojo was until taylor announced she was re-recording so that probably has something to do with it

[Tropez]

What do you gain by asking such a stupid question? 

[GraceRandolph]

Taylor has been bigger than JoJo since like 2008? Not sure why you’d make a thread like this unless you’re trying to **** on JoJo tbh. 

[vale9001]

well your question makes a sense. I guess Jo Jo streams are basically 90% playlists induced so if the originals are still on the playlists you can't do nothing

 

Even for some of the big pop songs on Red at some point if I'm not wrong originals became to to make a little bit better. 

Instead when it's about album tracks they make way better, so people in general listen to the new versions. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by vale9001

[XXI.]

There are very few artists that would be able to rerecord their songs and have them outstream the originals in the way Taylor has. Firstly, Taylor is a global superstar with a rabid fanbase, but also her original battle and the controversy surrounding her masters being sold to Scooter was very public.

[vale9001]

Also Taylor re recordings are under Republic Records/Universal, so still a big label has an interest to push the new versions. 

Jo Jo remake her old music with an indipendent label so it's like this label agains Warner. Of course Warner wins and the old versions stay on the playslists.

Edited August 21, 2023 by vale9001

[liam13]

seems like only taylor's re-recordings pay off, everyone else makes very little money out of their new versions.

"b-b-but it's not a risk "

[hallucinate]

are you trolling?

[Taylena]

13 minutes ago, a_d_22 said:

i didn’t even know who jojo was until taylor announced she was re-recording so that probably has something to do with it

Same. I though this was about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. 

[liam13]

3 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

Also Taylor re recordings are under Republic Records/Universal, so still a big label has an interest to push the new versions. 

Jo Jo remake her old music with an indipendent label so it's like this label agains Warner. Of course Warner wins and the old versions stay on the playslists.

sis, republic doesnt even push her new original songs outside radio stations, what u talking about?

[JustHoran]

JoJo's re-recordings are BAD. The vocals aren't great, and the production isn't good. Taylor's also a bigger star but her re-recordings are actually good (then again, she can afford to make sure the production is amazing). JoJo's just don't beat the originals AT ALL.

 

Also JoJo DOES make some money from her old releases, she obviously doesn't make as much as she does with the re-recordings but she absolutely does still make some money from them. She said that because she wanted her fans to buy and only stream the new ones.

Edited August 21, 2023 by JustHoran

[JustHoran]

20 minutes ago, a_d_22 said:

i didn’t even know who jojo was until taylor announced she was re-recording so that probably has something to do with it

You must be very young. 

[What_A_Mess]

Jojo’s re recordings were terrible and low effort. I was worried that Taylor’s would be as well. Fortunately they are high quality. When I heard Love Story TV, I couldn’t tell the difference until I listened side by side. With Jojo’s it was quite jarring and obvious. Eagerly waiting to stream 1989, Rep, and TS tvs. 

[nadiamendell]

JoJo had a budget?

[byzantium]

A few things:

 

1) The value proposition of Taylor’s discography has never been totally reliant on the major singles.  I would argue the re-recording project would have gone very differently if people did not care as much about her album tracks.

 

2) About 60-70% of taylor’s re-recording sound better because she both has the resources and better vocal ability.

 

3) the “from the vault” tracks make people want to listen to the new recordings when they put on an album.  
 

4) When Taylor embarked on this project she had millions of new fans who never experienced the prior eras.  So for them, the TVs are the definitive versions because that is the era they experienced.  I think the project would have gone differently if she was a legacy artist releasing music for people that remembered the original

releases well. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by byzantium

[kataraqueen]

Just now, byzantium said:

A couple things:

 

1) The value proposition of Taylor’s discography has never been totally reliant on the major singles.  I would argue the re-recording project would have gone very differently if people did not care as much about her album tracks.

 

2) About 60-70% of taylor’s re-recording sound better because she both has the resources and better vocal ability.

 

3) the “from the vault” tracks make people want to listen to the new recordings when they put on an album.  
 

4) When Taylor embarked on this project she had millions of new fans who never experienced the prior eras.  So for them, the TVs are the definitive versions because that is the era they experienced.  I think the project would have gone differently if she was a legacy artist releasing music for people that remembered the original

releases well. 

For 2), she doesn't really capture the same emotion for a lot of her songs

 

rest is very accurate

[byzantium]

2 minutes ago, kataraqueen said:

For 2), she doesn't really capture the same emotion for a lot of her songs

 

rest is very accurate

Yes I would agree that about 30%-40% of the songs sound worse.  There is some youthful earnestness that she cannot recreate.  However, I think as a whole, she is able to do more with her voice and production so a slight majority sound better.  

[MidnightsAtPeace]

If any other artist had decided to rerecord their old albums, they would've flopped so hard.

 

[Mtjjproducer]

8 minutes ago, byzantium said:

A few things:

 

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2) About 60-70% of taylor’s re-recording sound better because she both has the resources and better vocal ability.

 

 

Be SSSOOO ******* for real if you think taylor has more vocal ability than Jojo 

 

the only reason JoJos vocals don’t sound the best on the re-records if because she stupidly recorded them when she was on tour with laryngitis. Jojo can outsing taylor swift without even trying. JoJos vocals on her last two sound better than Taylor. Hell JoJos 12 year old vocals sound better than Taylor now. 

[byzantium]

1 minute ago, Mtjjproducer said:

Be SSSOOO ******* for real if you think taylor has more vocal ability than Jojo 

 

the only reason JoJos vocals don’t sound the best on the re-records if because she stupidly recorded them when she was on tour with laryngitis. Jojo can outsing taylor swift without even trying. JoJos vocals on her last two sound better than Taylor. Hell JoJos 12 year old vocals sound better than Taylor now. 

Are you intentionally misreading what I was saying or just accidentally? 

[DemDam92]

Because JoJo is a flop and literally had 2 songs that did well.

Does she even have a fan base?

[Buffy]

22 minutes ago, What_A_Mess said:

Jojo’s re recordings were terrible and low effort. I was worried that Taylor’s would be as well. Fortunately they are high quality. When I heard Love Story TV, I couldn’t tell the difference until I listened side by side. With Jojo’s it was quite jarring and obvious. Eagerly waiting to stream 1989, Rep, and TS tvs.