vuelve88 Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 She seems to lack PR training. Trashing the original film isn’t the smartest move. 1 1
Bencharmer Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 At this point just cancel the movie. Snow White is so sacred to Disney. If they can't give it a proper tribute, just don't make it. 4
Black Sunflower Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 2:02 AM, TheCheshireCat said: This poor girl seems to be the new cultural punching bag. They have mascot-ized her as like the ultimate cringe “Hollywood” sjw who is being picked apart for the most unremarkable pop-feminist statements ever. Also now that the little mermaid is out and came and went they need to funnel their anger into something else and unfortunately she is a perfect candidate. Because she is an annoying little rat, that's why? Looks like one too. 3 1 1 3
JustHoran Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 She was absolutely right over that bigot Gina whatever her name is I really don't think this girl is made for Hollywood tho and I think Hallmark movies are in her future if she's lucky
RockStarShit101 Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 Kim K was right ppl needs to get up and work this whole thing won’t harm my livelihood, so why would I care? I’m sure ppl have more things to worry about.
SleepNoMore Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 I’m really shocked how people on here are jumping on board the right wing’s spin of how she’s “horrible” and a “hypocrite “ because she was calling out a transphobe like Gina. Are you guys also defending JK Rowling now? Rachel does want the world to be a kinder place, and she wants that for trans people too which is why she got into it with Gina. This isn’t hypocritical at all. People really have to stop gleefully accepting every attempt to cancel someone.
X~MoviePoP Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 Based on the new leaked images. The movie looks great and magical and rachel looks amazing...the 7 dwarves idea change is dumb. But hopefully the movie succeeds 1
GivingCher Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Black Sunflower said: Because she is an annoying little rat, that's why? Looks like one too. Meanwhile you seem like an absolute treasure 1
C-Amber Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 3:08 AM, SidetoSpears said: what is being deleted here. you can go watch the other movie if you want — a movie which, i'll point out, was an adaptation of the original folktale. the first Snow White was a "changed classic," so by your logic, it shouldn't have been ade either. see how quickly that falls apart? no need for the pseudo-intellectual cowardice, if you want an all-white cast then just say it with your chest, racist Yes let's call someone racist because I can't agree with them, amazing way you got. It's simple, stop being lazy, stop changing already existed great stories and make NEW Great stories about whatever they enjoy, no wonder Disney are flopping left and right, because of their laziness to create anything new and fresh and you here thinking that is RACIST. Grow up and go touch some grass, nobody in this entire world want this trash recycling of movies, they want something new and unique to represent new stuff. 1 1
SidetoSpears Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 14 hours ago, C-Amber said: Yes let's call someone racist because I can't agree with them, amazing way you got. It's simple, stop being lazy, stop changing already existed great stories and make NEW Great stories about whatever they enjoy, no wonder Disney are flopping left and right, because of their laziness to create anything new and fresh and you here thinking that is RACIST. Grow up and go touch some grass, nobody in this entire world want this trash recycling of movies, they want something new and unique to represent new stuff. It's not racist to dislike a remake, but your specific comment was racist. You said they were "changing history to satisfy minorities." That's not what's happening — for one, Snow White already IS a remake, it's not the original story they're changing. And secondly, you said they're "deleting what's already there and ruining what's great." That's also a misunderstanding on your part. It's not like anybody is removing previous versions; they're still there for you to watch if you want, and I'm sure people will be streaming the earlier version for decades to come, just like they already have been. This remake isn't a threat to the animated classic any more than the first adaptation was to the *actual* original story. You're pivoting to an argument about remakes being lazy because you got called out — that's not what I took issue with. Do better. 1 2
NausAllien Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 She DESERVES to be dragged. If she hates the source material she's adapting (a fairytale, mind you), then do something else. She clearly hates the original movie and thinks women who dream about falling in love ARE LESS THAN GIRL BOSSES. Then do a movie that fits your taste and stop shitting all over Walt's legacy. 2 1
NausAllien Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 2:35 AM, Bencharmer said: At this point just cancel the movie. Snow White is so sacred to Disney. If they can't give it a proper tribute, just don't make it. It's literally the movie that SAVED the studio. If Snow White didn't exist, Disney wouldn't exist. Is it outdated? Sure. It's based on a fairytale written 2 centuries ago. But it deserves RESPECT for all that it meant for the company and for so many people of multiple generations growing up. 1 1
C-Amber Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 15 hours ago, SidetoSpears said: It's not racist to dislike a remake, but your specific comment was racist. You said they were "changing history to satisfy minorities." That's not what's happening — for one, Snow White already IS a remake, it's not the original story they're changing. And secondly, you said they're "deleting what's already there and ruining what's great." That's also a misunderstanding on your part. It's not like anybody is removing previous versions; they're still there for you to watch if you want, and I'm sure people will be streaming the earlier version for decades to come, just like they already have been. This remake isn't a threat to the animated classic any more than the first adaptation was to the *actual* original story. You're pivoting to an argument about remakes being lazy because you got called out — that's not what I took issue with. Do better. If you think everything said is racism than that's on YOU living your life think all people talk and think is racist related, grow up, nobody outside America care about racism, all want everyone to keep to the original stories. There is no problem in changing little stuff on the stories, it happens all the time and nobody cares, but to change major stuff and the entire reason the story was there!! Wtf!! Just make new story. First of all Snow White is literally a name given to her because how White the girl is, skin white as snow, they just deleted that to hire half Latina who doesn't fit the description, why? also, I never heard any Latina wanting this at all, they actually hate it. And might as well change the entire title and her name, because the actress isn't fitting the description "lips red as the rose, hair black as ebony, and skin white as snow". if you wanna involve the race then the funny thing is if the story had a girl that was black, Latina or Asian and they decided to hire White blonde women in the role, hell will break loose to cancel everything. And what about the 7 dwarfs? Its literally one of the MAIN part of the story, and 6 of them been replaced with people of colors to satisfy them but at the expense of every actor who is person of short stature. There are many great animations that could fit more, Encanto, Coco, Moana and more, make a live action from them, and hire people that fit the description, and give people of colors chances to shine in roles that are great without changing other roles history. Or maybe hire White women or men into those roles and let's see how happy you'll be looool Again go touch some grass and grow up thinking everything is racism. 2 1
PoisonPill Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 1:23 PM, shyboi said: I remember Halle talking about TLM so eloquent, iconic and classy, like a stunning MOVIE STAR. Rachel just sounds so unserious, like she is half joking, half trying to make a point Yeah it's more her delivery and affect, she comes off like a snarky teen who just took an AP sociology class. If she's going to be headlining major studio movies, she'll have to learn to articulate herself with more poise and maturity (I'm sure the studio's already put her into a media training crash course ) 1
Sugden Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) the hate this girl is receiving is so over the top, people are acting like she killed somebody Edited August 23, 2023 by Sugden 1
SidetoSpears Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, C-Amber said: If you think everything said is racism than that's on YOU living your life think all people talk and think is racist related, grow up, nobody outside America care about racism, all want everyone to keep to the original stories. There is no problem in changing little stuff on the stories, it happens all the time and nobody cares, but to change major stuff and the entire reason the story was there!! Wtf!! Just make new story. First of all Snow White is literally a name given to her because how White the girl is, skin white as snow, they just deleted that to hire half Latina who doesn't fit the description, why? also, I never heard any Latina wanting this at all, they actually hate it. And might as well change the entire title and her name, because the actress isn't fitting the description "lips red as the rose, hair black as ebony, and skin white as snow". if you wanna involve the race then the funny thing is if the story had a girl that was black, Latina or Asian and they decided to hire White blonde women in the role, hell will break loose to cancel everything. And what about the 7 dwarfs? Its literally one of the MAIN part of the story, and 6 of them been replaced with people of colors to satisfy them but at the expense of every actor who is person of short stature. There are many great animations that could fit more, Encanto, Coco, Moana and more, make a live action from them, and hire people that fit the description, and give people of colors chances to shine in roles that are great without changing other roles history. Or maybe hire White women or men into those roles and let's see how happy you'll be looool Again go touch some grass and grow up thinking everything is racism. Because you are committed to missing the point: disliking this movie is NOT inherently racist, but your critique was. You think changing one character's race is changing the entire story because all you got from Snow White, apparently, was that the main character is white girl and that's why the movie was made. It's not a nuanced look at the movie. Furthermore, ALL we know is the casting and yet here you are, logging on and crying that people are 'erasing history.' just because of who is cast, without mentioning anything re: the actual plot. It's all aesthetics to you. Again, since you missed it — the original Snow White is a remake. It's not history. It's a folktale. Changing it is not rewriting REAL things that happened in REAL life, so the comparison to history doesn't make sense. People rewrite stories all the time, whether it's fanfiction, roman a clef, whatever — it's a thing that happens in media. Do you honestly think nobody outside of America cares about racism? BFFR and go outside. It's a real issue across the globe. Read a book or talk to someone, idk Hope this helps! Bye for now. Edited August 23, 2023 by SidetoSpears 3 3
Bubble Tea Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Stealing someone else's ideas and twisting them to suit your own ideology is always lazy and tedious. Come up with something of your own if you actually have any talent and something meaningful to say. You can't re-write history no matter how desperately you may want to. History is how we learn and course-correct, not what we necessarily hold up and idolize.
Onyxmage Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 The way im going to go watch the movie regardless of what this old white man thinks.
Onyxmage Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tropical said: Stealing someone else's ideas and twisting them to suit your own ideology is always lazy and tedious. Come up with something of your own if you actually have any talent and something meaningful to say. You can't re-write history no matter how desperately you may want to. History is how we learn and course-correct, not what we necessarily hold up and idolize. Its a damn fairy tale not a historical event. Edited August 24, 2023 by Onyxmage 1
C-Amber Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 15 hours ago, SidetoSpears said: Because you are committed to missing the point: disliking this movie is NOT inherently racist, but your critique was. You think changing one character's race is changing the entire story because all you got from Snow White, apparently, was that the main character is white girl and that's why the movie was made. It's not a nuanced look at the movie. Furthermore, ALL we know is the casting and yet here you are, logging on and crying that people are 'erasing history.' just because of who is cast, without mentioning anything re: the actual plot. It's all aesthetics to you. Again, since you missed it — the original Snow White is a remake. It's not history. It's a folktale. Changing it is not rewriting REAL things that happened in REAL life, so the comparison to history doesn't make sense. People rewrite stories all the time, whether it's fanfiction, roman a clef, whatever — it's a thing that happens in media. Do you honestly think nobody outside of America cares about racism? BFFR and go outside. It's a real issue across the globe. Read a book or talk to someone, idk Hope this helps! Bye for now. The original snow white was a remake that barely changed anything, at least not major changes, and you here defending major changes on the movie for what!? To be inclusive? Why? Just make a damn new movie and you stop defending laziness. I'm from Asia and literally when people meet each other other work together nobody mention race at ALL, they'll say what is that? While in America it's the first conversation, yall even teaching toddlers about it, a creepy as way to live because yall made everything about it. Again let's bring a great story from history about black women and hire White blonde women to play that, and let's see how that goes loooooool you'll be the first to lose your mind ans attack it. But since its European folk story, about extremely white girl that they name her Snow from how White is she and to make a half latina with dark skin to play it's completely normal, it's inclusively, it's giving other race chances and bla bla bla. 2
glitch Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 People are doing far too much over this for a film none of us are actually going to watch. Yeah she was a bit cringe in some of her interviews and there's a discussion to be had whether or not it is actually more feminist to make Snow White into some kind of leader action hero. But she's only 22 and this is like her first big role. It's not that deep
Horizon Flame Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Disney needs to stop with these live action remakes after this bombs but they’re already planing to do Bambi, another terrible idea.
Onyxmage Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, C-Amber said: The original snow white was a remake that barely changed anything, at least not major changes, and you here defending major changes on the movie for what!? To be inclusive? Why? Just make a damn new movie and you stop defending laziness. I'm from Asia and literally when people meet each other other work together nobody mention race at ALL, they'll say what is that? While in America it's the first conversation, yall even teaching toddlers about it, a creepy as way to live because yall made everything about it. Again let's bring a great story from history about black women and hire White blonde women to play that, and let's see how that goes loooooool you'll be the first to lose your mind ans attack it. But since its European folk story, about extremely white girl that they name her Snow from how White is she and to make a half latina with dark skin to play it's completely normal, it's inclusively, it's giving other race chances and bla bla bla. The fact that you think Rachel has dark skin when she is very light is probablematic in itself. Edited August 24, 2023 by Onyxmage
Beyond Say Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) On 8/23/2023 at 8:18 AM, C-Amber said: If you think everything said is racism than that's on YOU living your life think all people talk and think is racist related, grow up, nobody outside America care about racism, all want everyone to keep to the original stories. There is no problem in changing little stuff on the stories, it happens all the time and nobody cares, but to change major stuff and the entire reason the story was there!! Wtf!! Just make new story. First of all Snow White is literally a name given to her because how White the girl is, skin white as snow, they just deleted that to hire half Latina who doesn't fit the description, why? also, I never heard any Latina wanting this at all, they actually hate it. And might as well change the entire title and her name, because the actress isn't fitting the description "lips red as the rose, hair black as ebony, and skin white as snow". if you wanna involve the race then the funny thing is if the story had a girl that was black, Latina or Asian and they decided to hire White blonde women in the role, hell will break loose to cancel everything. And what about the 7 dwarfs? Its literally one of the MAIN part of the story, and 6 of them been replaced with people of colors to satisfy them but at the expense of every actor who is person of short stature. There are many great animations that could fit more, Encanto, Coco, Moana and more, make a live action from them, and hire people that fit the description, and give people of colors chances to shine in roles that are great without changing other roles history. Or maybe hire White women or men into those roles and let's see how happy you'll be looool Again go touch some grass and grow up thinking everything is racism. Rachel is white. Her mom is a white Colombian and her dad is polish. if anything, she was miscast in Westside Story. Edited August 24, 2023 by Beyond Say 1
C-Amber Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Onyxmage said: The fact that you think Rachel has dark skin when she is very light is probablematic in itself. 1 hour ago, Beyond Say said: Rachel is white. Her mom is a white Colombian and her dad is polish. if anything, she was miscast in Westside Story. And in what World her skin is white as snow? As white European? In your imaginary world? She doesn't even introduce herself as white, she always says she's latina and goes to speak Spanish to say look I'm latina, even the media introduced her as latina and half-latina, because she looks more like latina women then an European white women that her skin is almost as SNOW.
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