Cruel Summer Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: There’s a very legitimate argument to be made that Taylor Swift (and all mega pop stars for that matter) are corporations and brands in of themselves. I think the whole “go after corporate emissions” absolves the 1% of their disproportionately greater contribution to climate change But even if you make that argument, is a right-winger tweeting in bad faith to characterize liberals as hypocritical about climate change the right person to be co-signing here, as so many in this thread are doing? One hundred corporations make up about half the emissions of the human race and we have a systemic reliance on unsustainable corporate activities and unsustainable modes of transportation. What are bad faith tweets going to do about that? Most of the actual worst offenders in private jet emissions ensured that they weren’t being tracked before any of the numbers were compiled by anyone, and the list over a year ago that called out Taylor Swift was riddled with errors and omissions. How much do these targeted celebrities actually contribute to the problem when stacked up against the people rotting our planet from the inside out? The concern in this thread isn’t coming from a place of good faith encouraging more sustainable behaviors for everyone, it’s just seizing on one woman who half the people in here hate because she’s an easy and highly visible target. 4 1
NausAllien Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, EarthJang said: I mean... YIKES... This is not the defense they think it is. Climate change is something that should concern us all. She doesn't HAVE to speak about it, but it would be good if she did. She has a massive platform and a lot of her fans probably come from Conservative backgrounds, which tend to deny climate change. And yes, using her private jet when she could just fly first class in a regular airliner is a pretty back look. 1 3
orange22 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Carry My Heart said: And which block was that people lost interest in that story within a week (and weird stans on Twitter aren't taken into account) It didn't (and won't) have any effect on her image. I didn’t say it had an effect but it was probably the most backlash I’d personally ever seen her get this seems to be an issue people don’t fw her on
NausAllien Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Cruel Summer said: But even if you make that argument, is a right-winger tweeting in bad faith to characterize liberals as hypocritical about climate change the right person to be co-signing here, as so many in this thread are doing? 5
Carry My Heart Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, orange22 said: I didn’t say it had an effect but it was probably the most backlash I’d personally ever seen her get this seems to be an issue people don’t fw her on Once again, these people you're referring to are an isolated minority. If most content about it is jokes, as you say, then it can't be tantamount to actual backlash.
Cruel Summer Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, NausAllien said: Okay, quote the rest of the post now.
orange22 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Carry My Heart said: Once again, these people you're referring to are an isolated minority. If most content about it is jokes, as you say, then it can't be tantamount to actual backlash. If you say so
Carry My Heart Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, NausAllien said: This doesn't really apply here since the guy whose tweet we're discussing doesn't have an issue with private jet usage or pollution, but with perceived "liberal hypocrisy". He thinks Taylor said something she never said, that's what his whole attempted gag is based around. 1
CottageHore Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 She’s nearly a billionaire who travels the entire planet for a living, this should surprise nobody. I’m not justifying this at all cuz it’s gross but y’all have constructed this idea of Taylor being some far-left, progressive, environmentalist closeted queer lesbian and she’s simply none of those things. Let go of the fantasy, babes! 1
PoisonPill Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 As soon as the public and the paparazzi agree to stop hunting her down at every waking moment and putting her life at risk, then I’m sure she could start flying commercial. 1
orange22 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, PoisonPill said: As soon as the public and the paparazzi agree to stop hunting her down at every waking moment and putting her life at risk, then I’m sure she could start flying commercial. She can’t ride in a car?
One Rude Boy Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 There are private and secure alternate ways to board a commercial plane, especially in first class, without waiting in the general terminal in many large airports - with even the choice to board last for security concerns. There are alternatives - not all the time, but many times. Can we put the stan goggles away for a sec 2
CandleGuy Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Gui Blackout said: Just fact checking the OP's claim he's a right wing guy trying to own the libs by calling her a hypocrite, but she has never been one of those celebs that preach about climate change then hop on a private plane (like Leonardo DiCaprio). So trying pin this narrative on her is silly. That's not what a fact check is sis The facts of his claim are true. You can argue that she has to use the jet because her flying commercial would obviously cause chaos. But she shouldn't be loaning the jet to others or having friends/family/team using it. 1
NausAllien Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Her blind stans trying to defend a literal eco-terrorist... 1 4
Gui Blackout Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 And just like when this topic first came on, others stans clutching their pearls and swarming on Taylor is deeply unserious cause Beyoncé only flies private Lady Gaga only flies private Katy Perry only flies private Dua Lipa only flies private as well as any other A-list celebrity So if you're indeed so concerned about the environment and celebrity's use of private planes, perhaps start by demanding your own fave to stop using it? Be the change you want to see in the world 1 1 1
orange22 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Gui Blackout said: And just like when this topic first came on, others stans clutching their pearls and swarming on Taylor is deeply unserious cause Beyoncé only flies private Lady Gaga only flies private Katy Perry only flies private Dua Lipa only flies private as well as any other A-list celebrity So if you're indeed so concerned about the environment and celebrity's use of private planes, perhaps start by demanding your own fave to stop using it? Be the change you want to see in the world Is Taylor exempt from this somehow? Not understanding the whataboutism
Gui Blackout Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, orange22 said: Is Taylor exempt from this somehow? Not understanding the whataboutism But do you understand the selective outrage?
One Rude Boy Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said: And just like when this topic first came on, others stans clutching their pearls and swarming on Taylor is deeply unserious cause Beyoncé only flies private Lady Gaga only flies private Katy Perry only flies private Dua Lipa only flies private as well as any other A-list celebrity So if you're indeed so concerned about the environment and celebrity's use of private planes, perhaps start by demanding your own fave to stop using it? Be the change you want to see in the world Girl we hate all of them doing it
PoisonedIvy Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, orange22 said: These were hilarious
orange22 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Gui Blackout said: But do you understand the selective outrage? Make a thread about the others then? I personally don’t really care if they fly private or not even if I disagree with it but I think it’s perfectly valid for anyone to bring it up
Saintlor Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, WeFoundTrouble said: These were hilarious One of the only viral memes I've found hilarious in years 1
Spooky Mulder Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 She said Fuck mother earth Fuck that Bitch
orange22 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said: And just like when this topic first came on, others stans clutching their pearls and swarming on Taylor is deeply unserious cause Beyoncé only flies private Lady Gaga only flies private Katy Perry only flies private Dua Lipa only flies private as well as any other A-list celebrity So if you're indeed so concerned about the environment and celebrity's use of private planes, perhaps start by demanding your own fave to stop using it? Be the change you want to see in the world While we’re on the topic Miss Lipa needs to park that ass at home!
orange22 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: These were hilarious They really were
PoisonedIvy Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saintlor said: One of the only viral memes I've found hilarious in years 1 minute ago, orange22 said: They really were Do you guys remember one tweet that was like “Taylor getting a midnight snack from her kitchen” and it was a lady hanging onto a helicopter flying And the most liked reply right under it was someone saying “her going back to bed after the snack” and it was the helicopter video from above reversed so she was flying back in the direction she came from, and right under that someone said “oops she forgot to turn the kitchen light off!” Or something like that and it was the helicopter going the first direction again Jesus that nearly burst my lungs from laughter 4
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