charts discussion Final predictions (9/2): Rich Men #1 (x2), Taylor #4, Doja #5

[simmnfierzig]

3 hours ago, Green said:

 

It was never falling hard on streaming though. It has been #1 on apple music and when it fell to 3 on spotify the gap with the #1 wasn't that big.

 

https://charts.spotify.com/charts/view/regional-us-daily/2023-08-16

 

and it never has left the #1 on itunes

....

He mentioned actual numbers and not just positions for a very good reason.

 

He's selling 5x that of the #2 song on iTunes. Him not moving from #1 tells us absolutely nothing.

He can be the easily #1 selling song without being close to #1 on the Hot 100.

Which is mainly why it took 3-4 days last week to see him as a threat for #1 as nobody had sales numbers before that 

[Rico Shameless v2]

5 hours ago, Squall said:

TOTC is just a joke at this point, shut up with speculations until you have REAL informations

 

5 hours ago, NewStanner said:

This, they're so quick to post literally anything, just to gain as much interactions on their tweets as possible  Truly attention seekers

This is unhinged and disrespectful. Figure out the chart formula and do them yourselves  Bitching about it does no favors, you’ll continue to live for them.

Edited August 19, 2023 by Rico Shameless v2

[spree]

Why aren’t the millions of Swifties not buying the single?

[Green]

35 minutes ago, spree said:

Why aren’t the millions of Swifties not buying the single?

 

Because it's an old song and most of them already have it

[mypaintoyou]

8 minutes ago, spree said:

Why aren’t the millions of Swifties not buying the single?

Because we already bought it with the album 4 years ago 

[fridayteenage]

53 minutes ago, chiliam said:

 Honestly a #3 better than a #2 and Taylor never have #3 hit. So it would be a cool additional to her chart trivia 

false

[fridayteenage]

looking at her discography, she's peaked at every position in the top 20

[Katamari]

I was told it would freefall  

[spree]

3 hours ago, mypaintoyou said:

Because we already bought it with the album 4 years ago 

bought the album, not the single.  You can still buy the single. 

[brianc33710]

4 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

....

He mentioned actual numbers and not just positions for a very good reason.

 

He's selling 5x that of the #2 song on iTunes. Him not moving from #1 tells us absolutely nothing.

He can be the easily #1 selling song without being close to #1 on the Hot 100.

Which is mainly why it took 3-4 days last week to see him as a threat for #1 as nobody had sales numbers before that 

Also I noticed Richmond has shown up on Kworb.net YouTube chart. There was some question as to whether those streams would count because of Oliver's coding. Now that he appears there, I assume those millions will count (even though they're the weakest streams). This has also probably led to the increase in this coming tracking periods estimates. 

 

Given its volatility I could still see Richmond collapsing before the week ends. Aldean had Fox News & Monday #1 publicity and still fell to #21 (but Scott's album bomb also played a part in that drop) losing 2/3 of its points. Richmond is at about 9 days of going viral, which was when TTIAST began losing momentum. So 2 #1 wks isn't given. Hopefully Richmond at least falls out of the Top 5 (although out of the T10/20 would be better).

 

 

[rac7d]

On 8/18/2023 at 1:29 AM, mypaintoyou said:

Not again

 

at least CS. Is now discounted 

That most of her fans own 2x already now they have to mass buy?

[rac7d]

https://x.com/talkofthecharts/status/1692908466577211526?s=46&t=CysAkpNsjJ3z6TXVzl8ksw

[Shaner69]

This early look seems off. 

 

Dua has massive airplay increases and she is also doing amazing on all metrics. I think she's going to get to top 6.

 

Billie is already falling on streaming everywhere that song was absolutely movie driven.  

 

Dua is the proper single from the album they made the choice correct. It's the one connecting for the long term. 

 

 

[spree]

2 hours ago, rac7d said:

That most of her fans own 2x already now they have to mass buy?

yes.  Are you a true fan?

[fridayteenage]

rich men is #97 for the week on youtube's US music video chart.

[brianc33710]

58 minutes ago, fridayteenage said:

rich men is #97 for the week on youtube's US music video chart.

OK I saw Richmond #1 on Kworb.net YT. I didn't see it chart there right away. If these streams don't count toward BB believe me I'm fine with that. I want the song gone ASAP. 

[lukascharts]

1 hour ago, Shaner69 said:

This early look seems off. 

 

Dua has massive airplay increases and she is also doing amazing on all metrics. I think she's going to get to top 6.

 

Billie is already falling on streaming everywhere that song was absolutely movie driven.  

 

Dua is the proper single from the album they made the choice correct. It's the one connecting for the long term. 

 

 

The early look was posted before radio updated today. I don't fault them for being off by a few points.

 

Assuming it keeps the same radio increase for the rest of the week it will do around 172 points.

 

It's still decreasing on streaming (when looking at Spotify Friday-Friday).

[bad guy]

4 hours ago, Shaner69 said:

Billie is already falling on streaming everywhere that song was absolutely movie driven.  

The song hasn't left the Top 5 on Global Spotify since it dropped. What in the fan fiction 

[NMG19]

4 hours ago, brianc33710 said:

OK I saw Richmond #1 on Kworb.net YT. I didn't see it chart there right away. If these streams don't count toward BB believe me I'm fine with that. I want the song gone ASAP. 

It's probably for the previous week, the video wasn't released last friday but wednesday or thursday before it went viral on friday or saturday?

[brianc33710]

9 minutes ago, NMG19 said:

It's probably for the previous week, the video wasn't released last friday but wednesday or thursday before it went viral on friday or saturday?

Actually Richmond is back off Kworb.net YTs US T20 Chart. I just looked. 17 Aug showed it #1 with 4.6 million streams & 18 Aug doesn't list it at all, so under #20/793k views. Maybe 17 Aug read RMNORs coding differently. But either way Oliver went from #1 by a 3-1 margin over #2 to back below #20 in 24 hrs.

[Peak Now]

Well luckily RMNOR doesn't have much radio (yet)...

[Axelios]

7 hours ago, Shaner69 said:

Dua is the proper single from the album they made the choice correct. It's the one connecting for the long term. 

 

 

So despite a massively bigger push, DTN is still being outsreamed by WWIMF globally. 

Is that your definition of "connecting long term"? All I see is a label wasting massive funds again on failed Dua singles.

[Shaner69]

1 hour ago, Axelios said:

So despite a massively bigger push, DTN is still being outsreamed by WWIMF globally. 

Is that your definition of "connecting long term"? All I see is a label wasting massive funds again on failed Dua singles.

She didn't do anything lol. 

 

Billie was the fraud with cassettes while dua is getting a tan in the beach and #1 UK without fraud. 

Edited August 20, 2023 by Shaner69

[Axelios]

51 minutes ago, Shaner69 said:

She didn't do anything lol. 

 

Billie was the fraud with cassettes while dua is getting a tan in the beach and #1 UK without fraud. 

Bigger radio push, bigger playlisting, youtube autoplay, physical cds which she failed to sell unlike Billie...

Is that nothing for you? But Dua failures are not surprising, didn't her last single Sweetest Pie spend more than six months on TTH and had huge radio payola with these Spotify results:

Total: 306,144,902 daily: 244,411 

[Renan90]