Lady Claire Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Element said: His career trajectory is so bizarre like you really couldn’t stop him from dominating back in 2018/19. Idk what happened but the songs got so generic and the support tepid at best. He lost half of his following when he transitioned from being a trapper to a (mostly) pop/rock singer. 1
Onyxmage Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 The way everyone suddenly just stopped caring about his music.
spree Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 it only works for someone who isn't dominant anymore. Not that Posty is, but having 4 albums on the chart kinda is. I get the idea, but it's too early. (Abel too) I would say Katy Perry would be a good example, but then again, I wouldn't want the original parent Teenage Dream album to disappear cuz of it. Kesha would be a better example cuz she has nothing charting. Maybe Carly Rae Jepsen too. Even Britney.
Cruel Summer Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said: I could understand releasing a compilation if his albums were completely forgotten, but why cannibalize your chart runs when you have multiple projects still charting? It was dumb when Abel did it and it's just as dumb now. Honestly, I think a lot of artists, labels, and management teams are less aware of - and less concerned with - long-term chart performance than we as engaged fans might think. I doubt that it even registered for most people who worked on crafting and marketing this release. All they really see is profits and losses. Very, very few artists have shown real awareness of and interest in their chart legacies, and even fewer actually acknowledge it directly. Makes things a little less fun than if they did acknowledge it more often, in my opinion, but I guess it is what it is. 2
spree Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: Honestly, I think a lot of artists, labels, and management teams are less aware of - and less concerned with - long-term chart performance than we as engaged fans might think. I doubt that it even registered for most people who worked on crafting and marketing this release. All they really see is profits and losses. Very, very few artists have shown real awareness of and interest in their chart legacies, and even fewer actually acknowledge it directly. Makes things a little less fun than if they did acknowledge it more often, in my opinion, but I guess it is what it is. it would be exhausting if every artist was obsessed with the charts. It's already who can game the system the most. Cruel Summer is rising organically and it's an anomaly. Imagine if every artist was like BTS? It would be fun at first but i think it would get tiring to watch after a while. The ups and downs having chart runs like 1-40-20-60-10-9-OUT. It's so abnormal compared to the old days of a natural rise and fall.
naval23 Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, SimpleKindofLife said: That album would have 100 songs and would chart for the next century It would be #1 on the Billboard 200 for 50 months if she did that
naval23 Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: The way everyone suddenly just stopped caring about his music. His Witness era but a less drastic decline 1
Genie in a Bottle Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Element said: His career trajectory is so bizarre like you really couldn’t stop him from dominating back in 2018/19. Idk what happened but the songs got so generic and the support tepid at best. Austin Post is a talented musician but let’s be real - Post Malone is an egregiously manufactured industry plant invented to capitalize on the SoundCloud era of hip-hop in the most digestible, white, Top 40 way possible. His image and songs were purposely made to be trendy radio hits. His career is very similar to Katy Perry’s as their music is solely made for the charts, and while it proved rabidly successful at a point, they never cultivated a dedicated huge Stan base because they don’t really have a signature sound. Most of his listeners are casual fans. Now that trap music is no longer top dog, he’s failing to find his footing sonically and the general public has moved on to Ice Spice 2
Vespertine Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 When Taylor puts out a 300-track compilation of Her entire discography and it sits at #1 for the next 5 years
B-Rabbit Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, Genie in a Bottle said: Austin Post is a talented musician but let’s be real - Post Malone is an egregiously manufactured industry plant invented to capitalize on the SoundCloud era of hip-hop in the most digestible, white, Top 40 way possible. His image and songs were purposely made to be trendy radio hits. His career is very similar to Katy Perry’s as their music is solely made for the charts, and while it proved rabidly successful at a point, they never cultivated a dedicated huge Stan base because they don’t really have a signature sound. Most of his listeners are casual fans. Now that trap music is no longer top dog, he’s failing to find his footing sonically and the general public has moved on to Ice Spice He’s been doing that type of rap before he even graduated high school
B-Rabbit Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Onyxmage said: The way everyone suddenly just stopped caring about his music. His Diamond Collection album is #16 1
VioletsandRoses Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 Greatest Hits albums in the streaming era make no sense. All it does is mess up units of each album. They weren’t even doing well in the digital era either. I believe only Pinks GH album and some male artist (which I forgot the name of) sold well.
Onyxmage Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, B-Rabbit said: His Diamond Collection album is #16 I don’t know what that is.
B-Rabbit Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: I don’t know what that is. It’s Post Malone’s greatest hits album. 5 songs from Stoney, 5 from beerbongs & bentleys, 5 from Hollywood’s Bleeding and 2 from twelve carat toothache are on it. Obviously if you take the current top 5 streaming songs from older albums it’s not going to chart for pretty much every artist Edited August 17, 2023 by B-Rabbit
Baby Judas Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 I don’t understand the point of releasing a GH album in the streaming era.
Baby Judas Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: I don’t know what that is. It means that all his big hits count for the compilation album, thus the parent albums disappeared from the chart.
Onyxmage Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Baby Judas said: It means that all his big hits count for the compilation album, thus the parent albums disappeared from the chart. So nobody listens to his non singles? Even on his latest album?
Sergi91 Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 So where’s the vinyl of this complication? 3 hours ago, Lady Claire said: He lost half of his following when he transitioned from being a trapper to a (mostly) pop/rock singer. Reminds me of Usher when he transitioned from R&B to EDM.
Baby Judas Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: So nobody listens to his non singles? Even on his latest album? Thread title is a bait. His latest album is at #7. As mentioned in the couple of posts above, he added like 5 songs rach from his previous albums. and those songs are huge, which made up most of the points of the parent albums. 1
nick4bty Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 I'm confused, didn't he release this back in April and re-release it a month ago? Why did it just start charting now, and why did the parent albums just randomly drop off now?
LCTV Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Leppie said: Why would anyone release a compilation album now. Like what's the point Right it's giving "Now That's What I Call Music 94"
simmnfierzig Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, nick4bty said: I'm confused, didn't he release this back in April and re-release it a month ago? Why did it just start charting now, and why did the parent albums just randomly drop off now? It charts when it moves more pure sales than the other albums that have the same songs. Were CDs released or something. Idk But its weird. It certainly didnt sell much as the positions from the other 4 albums should pretty much add up to #16 or so anyway. So I also dont get the "labels only care about money" people in here. He generated very little extra money with this it seems like to me
Holiest Dreams Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Leppie said: Why would anyone release a compilation album now. Like what's the point I guess it depends on the artist. For someone like Post or Weeknd, they have a bunch of albums that would be charting every week so it really makes no sense at all. Same goes for if Drake or especially Taylor did it. It just isn’t worth it at all in this case. But for an artist that only regularly charts maybe one album (or none) but has enough hits spread out across their discography, it would be a smart move. Someone like Katy or Gaga would benefit from it a lot more since they only chart one album each, and would then have a much higher charting entry every week with a GH. They have enough hits spread out that it’d be worth it. 7 hours ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said: The album tracks have massive amounts of streams, so… That’s true, but they were huge back when the albums were new. The recurrent streams for the album tracks, outside of maybe a few, aren’t very good. But still the singles and what is coming from the album tracks is enough to carry his whole discography to chart. So this is such a dumb move
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