news World Bank denies Uganda money over Anti-LGBTQ+ law

[Raptus]

20 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

It's really sad seeing some people cheering for this as if the queer people there won't be affected by this decision too. Yay privilege, I guess.  

 

Gonna just quote what I posted in the other thread

You have a better idea? No?  You don't care, you just want to feel superior. 

[TeemoR]

Both sides are horrible tbh

[State of Grace.]

51 minutes ago, Raptus said:

You have a better idea? No?  You don't care, you just want to feel superior. 

I do not feel "superior". I just think it's silly that you believe the World Bank gives a single **** about queer people there and that this decision is about spreading good and not asserting their dominance and establishing the moral superiority of these imperialist countries. If you do some searching you'll see that many Ugandan/African queer people and activists don't want these sanctions actually.  

 

Making the general population including queer people more miserable doesn't sound like the best solution to me, but sure!

Edited August 13, 2023 by State of Grace.

[airplane]

55 minutes ago, Raptus said:

You don't care

The world bank doesn’t actually care about any of us either. Stop being fooled so easily.

Edited August 13, 2023 by airplane

[Communion]

7 hours ago, Raptus said:

You have a better idea? No?  You don't care, you just want to feel superior. 

Why don't Western countries update their immigration policies to accept more LGBTQ refugees? 

It's interesting to see users who said Europe is being invaded and forcibly turned browner to destroy Western culture suddenly care about people from outside of Europe. 

 

Would you accept LGBTQ refugees if they practice a "barbaric religion" you don't like? 

 

Aren't you from Poland? How many non-European refugees have the Polish government accepted into its borders over the last 10 years? 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Communion

[Raptus]

9 hours ago, Communion said:

Why don't Western countries update their immigration policies to accept more LGBTQ refugees? 

It's interesting to see users who said Europe is being invaded and forcibly turned browner to destroy Western culture suddenly care about people from outside of Europe. 

 

Would you accept LGBTQ refugees if they practice a "barbaric religion" you don't like? 

 

Aren't you from Poland? How many non-European refugees have the Polish government accepted into its borders over the last 10 years? 

And what about USA putting refugees in cages you american hypocrite? Stop being obsessed with Europe, creep 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Raptus

[Communion]

4 hours ago, Raptus said:

And what about USA putting refugees in cages you american hypocrite? Stop being obsessed with Europe, creep 

Do you think queer Ugandans who traveled to the EU for safety would have rocks thrown at them like Syrian refugees experienced when trying to enter countries like Poland and Hungary? The irony being that Poland is SO nativist that the US, even per capita, likely takes in more refugees than a far-righf fascist country like Poland. 

 

Again, why does Poland allow so little migration?  So you care if straight Ugandans are homophobic to queer Ugandans but your desire to have an ethically pure neighborhood means you DONT want any queer Ugandans migrating to your home country of Poland? If ypu lnow gay Ugandans will be killed but you also dont t think letting them flee as refugees is the answer...isnt that settling on the view they should be killed? How does your logic work? Genuinely explain. 

 

Is it not hypocrisy and imperialism for Western governments that prop up the current unipolar world order under such institutions like the World Bank to sanction countries within the Global South but not offer refuge to the subsets of people they claim to be wanting to protect? 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Communion

[Raptus]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

So you care if straight Ugandans are homophobic to queer Ugandans but your desire to have an ethically pure neighborhood means you DONT want any queer Ugandans migrating to your home country of Poland? If ypu lnow gay Ugandans will be killed but you also dont t think letting them flee as refugees is the answer...isnt that settling on the view they should be killed? How

I'm not in the government you d*** b*** 

 

 And I will ask again: what do you do about  american fascist politics when it comes to  refugees? 

[Daddy]

God would help them out if they just believed a bit harder 

[Darkgalord]

What a messy situation all around. In the end, this won't help the LGBTQ+ community at all, if anything it will only make things worse for everyone involved causing more poverty and ignorance. 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Darkgalord

[katykater]

22 hours ago, G.U.Y. Gaga said:

The issue is they will just rely on China and Russia 

russia isn't only lying to everyone, but steals your stuff. India sent tanks to russia for upgrading and the tanks were blown up in Ukraine. The biggest russia fan boys are ditching a losing team and jumping ship to the West.

 

 

The West not only has the technological advantage, it can actually deliver the stuff you have ordered and doesn't steal your stuff.

 

 

China has the sinister plan of demanding 4 times the interest rates the West is asking, because they know that poor countries can't afford the loan. When poor countries default on the loans, it's colonization time using the old British trick of "You are giving up territory for 99 years, you are not losing face because it isn't lost forever. Territory could come back if the colonizer flops into oblivion.". This is how China is getting more and more army bases and naval bases in Asia, Africa, Middle East,...

[If U Seek Amy]

The thing I hate about issues like this is that it blanket punishes everyone and people want think black and white. Most of Uganda's government deserves it and even many Ugandans deserve it. But there are many innocent also and victims of the sad governance they were born into. But at the same time letting it go unpunished only encourages them to keep doing it. And rarely is there an approach to effectively help the innocent and punish the bad actors without a very intelligent and well planned operation that is almost unrealistic