charts discussion Cruel Summer challenging for #1; threatened by new racist country song

[swiftawaywithme]

2 minutes ago, B-Luke said:

lip predictions on Twitter: "@simmnfierzig @talkofthecharts @AintGottaDollar last prediction was 100k so he’s at least 50 points ahead with a 150k projection" / X

 

So he‘s already 50 points ahead of #2 (whatever song it is)

Cruel Summer stans never catch a break 

[Green]

29 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Because he’s astroturfed, some Republican group is propping him up to seem bigger than he is

 

His song is #1 on Apple Music though. It's not only a "sales" thing

[simmnfierzig]

10 minutes ago, Green said:

 

Is 150k enough for #1?

 

I guess this one will have a full week of big streams unlike Jason's song which only had 2 days of big streams

Its a 50 points lead

[youreyesgocold]

Why is that song selling so much? I can’t imagine it’s a mass orchestrated political statement or something. Is it genuinely having these sales? Like no shade but who buys music other than us girls and gay stans to manipulate charts? I don’t see a realistic situation where you have mass sales and 0 streams unless it’s fan orchestrated like with BTS 

[305]

Disgusting 

[swiftawaywithme]

Any theories on why US Spotify is delayed? Is Demi behind all of this sabotage?

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, Green said:

 

His song is #1 on Apple Music though. It's not only a "sales" thing

That doesn’t change the fact that he was a nobody a month ago and now all of a sudden he has the #1 song everywhere with professional film people following him in the span of a weekend

[feelslikeadream]

These random MAGA conservatives learning how to cast an election ballot was one thing, but now they've learned how to buy and stream music??? This has gone TOO FAR.

[Bonicap]

2 minutes ago, swiftawaywithme said:

Any theories on why US Spotify is delayed? Is Demi behind all of this sabotage?

They are delayed sometimes for no particular reason.

 

[B-Luke]

Taylor deliberately not doing anything to boost CS this week seemed odd at first but would further the theory that the song or the artist is a "plant", meaning she must have known she couldn‘t stand a chance and didn‘t budge.

[Green]

30 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

That doesn’t change the fact that he was a nobody a month ago and now all of a sudden he has the #1 song everywhere with professional film people following him in the span of a weekend

 

Basically like drivers license. It's the streaming era, big hits out of nowhere is not that weird anymore   

 

That doesn't mean he will have Olivia's career but anyone can have viral hits these days if they have a song that connects with a group of people.

[Communion]

9 minutes ago, Green said:

 

His song is #1 on Apple Music though. It's not only a "sales" thing

It is still astroturfed. He's funded by a conservative media group who got all the RW twitter influences to post about him at once. 

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, Green said:

 

Basically like drivers license. It's the streaming era, big hits out of nowhere is not that weird anymore   

 

That doesn't mean he will have Olivia's career but anyone can have viral hits these days if they have a song that connects with a group of people.

Olivia rodrigo was already a known act, I mean we literally already have posts in this thread from the guys who seemed to engineer this guy and his song 

[Green]

36 minutes ago, youreyesgocold said:

Why is that song selling so much? I can’t imagine it’s a mass orchestrated political statement or something. Is it genuinely having these sales? Like no shade but who buys music other than us girls and gay stans to manipulate charts? I don’t see a realistic situation where you have mass sales and 0 streams unless it’s fan orchestrated like with BTS 

 

0 streams??? It's #1 on Apple Music and #9 on spotify sis  

 

US Apple Music:

1	=	Oliver Anthony Music - Rich Men North of Richmond
2	=	Gunna - fukumean
3	=	Travis Scott - MELTDOWN (feat. Drake)
4	=	Morgan Wallen - Last Night

[Headlock]

47 minutes ago, Kamil24 said:

how is the song racist? It sounds anti-fat to me.

Not the straight white man who went to the rallies of the Nazi trucker strikes in Canada questioning how a clearly racist song is racist, and liking comments like this:

1 hour ago, Dojas Attantion said:

This thread is so funny lol , atrl finding about other opinions exists  Its like gay’s wide awakening to see some country singer going #1 instead of their favorite artist. 

Literally serving toxic fake woke twitter. 

 

atrl opinion =\= other people. 

Being “anti-woke” isn’t a personality. And the funniest part about this is y’all are being played, this astroturfed MAGA artist was fed to you on a silver spoon, there’s nothing authentic about this.

[Brikenbur]

11 minutes ago, B-Luke said:

Taylor deliberately not doing anything to boost CS this week seemed odd at first but would further the theory that the song or the artist is a "plant", meaning she must have known she couldn‘t stand a chance and didn‘t budge.

Absolutely. We saw it in the later #1 weeks of “Anti-Hero” (when predictions were close for Drake, she released a remix late Thursday on her site, then the following week she released a Remix EP, and then a separate standalone remix not featured on the EP that was supposed to be the “Remix EP” )

Needless to say, she’s not releasing ANYTHING to bolster sales until her and Taylor Nation are 100% certain CS will go #1. The sad chart obsessed girl from Miss Americana is still in full swing 

[Tsuko]

It's #1 on Apple Music? That's just insane. How is it possible? I mean it's a great song, but I didn't realise millions were listening, I thought it was just a small group of people doing this.

 

I feel like Trump supporters are now basically a new major record label. Once they figure out how to get songs on the radio, it's over, they'll be competing with Interscope and Def Jam in churning out new artists and hit songs. I think having Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro praise your song is the modern-day equivalent of a pop star appearing on a late night chat show, it's just incredible promotion.

Edited August 15, 2023 by Tsuko

[Eóghan]

what is racist about this song exactly?

 

why do y'all immediately paint anyone who does something folky/country as racist? wtf is this lunatic mindset?

just because some maga people decided to appropriate him and promote him doesn't mean the message or the artist are racist or problematic.

 

one quick look at the lyrics and everyone and their mother on this planet can relate. except if you're rich of course. but I guess I got the atrl demo entirely wrong and everyone is loaded up in this *****  good for y'all

[Ms. Togekiss]

10 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Not the straight white man who went to the rallies of the Nazi trucker strikes in Canada questioning how a clearly racist song is racist, and liking comments like this:

Being “anti-woke” isn’t a personality. And the funniest part about this is y’all are being played, this astroturfed MAGA artist was fed to you on a silver spoon, there’s nothing authentic about this.

the Canadian Carly Rae jepsen Stans on this site are quite racist  pretty sure they stanned Camila only out of spite after her racist scandal. Wasn’t one of them banned in the past year?

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Tsuko said:

Yeah, but to be fair most men would watch Troye Sivan's latest video and not find that relatable or authentic either. People are just different.

Yeah but gays who watch Rush aren't championing it as a (faux) populist anthem exposing heterosexual pedophiles in their rejoicing of having a relatable bop like 99% of the people stanning this song are. 

[skeeyee]

The problem is y’all chose the wrong song to mass support 

 

Here you go

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, Eóghan said:

what is racist about this song exactly?

 

why do y'all immediately paint anyone who does something folky/country as racist? wtf is this lunatic mindset?

just because some maga people decided to appropriate him and promote him doesn't mean the message or the artist are racist or problematic.

 

one quick look at the lyrics and everyone and their mother on this planet can relate. except if you're rich of course. but I guess I got the atrl demo entirely wrong and everyone is loaded up in this *****  good for y'all

Everyone but rich people can "relate" to wanting their taxes massively deregulated and hating people on welfare? Huh? Some of you are not even trying to hide anymore being flagrant right wing trolls. 

 

The song that mocks people oh welfare and references a conspiracy that Bill Clinton killed Jeffrey Epstein to hide being a pedophile isnt...overtly right wing? Dkdjdjjd shut the **** up. 

[Ms. Togekiss]

1 minute ago, Eóghan said:

what is racist about this song exactly?

 

why do y'all immediately paint anyone who does something folky/country as racist? wtf is this lunatic mindset?

just because some maga people decided to appropriate him and promote him doesn't mean the message or the artist are racist or problematic.

 

one quick look at the lyrics and everyone and their mother on this planet can relate. except if you're rich of course. but I guess I got the atrl demo entirely wrong and everyone is loaded up in this *****  good for y'all

And why tf do you think that is? You think they’re going to “appropriate” a gay man of color just because his song is good? The song is **** and so is the message (that really is a tirade against immigrants and people of color disguised as a song about protecting “our own” or whatever) and those who stand behind it. We could dissect the song and point out the many lines that straight up racist or problematic at the least

[Baby Judas]

not 50 points lead..  

[Dojas Attantion]

15 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Not the straight white man who went to the rallies of the Nazi trucker strikes in Canada questioning how a clearly racist song is racist, and liking comments like this:

Being “anti-woke” isn’t a personality. And the funniest part about this is y’all are being played, this astroturfed MAGA artist was fed to you on a silver spoon, there’s nothing authentic about this.

Yes i’m %100 gonna take your comments about me seriously on a pop forum whos %90 of latest posts are all about taylor swift. 

yikes. 

 

Congrats to Oliver on the #1