DoorDash driver pounds on door demanding tip, calls customer "f**king loser"

[Solaris]

3 hours ago, BlackoutZone said:

Americans defending this in qrts, y’all really got brainwashed into believing you should be responsible for a salary of billion dollar companies employees

 

I don't think people are defending DoorDash or tipping as a whole, people are defending the employee because many of us sympathize with him. Most of us agree with you that it's a messed up situation, but the situation is that in America some service workers rely on tips, and if you use their services without tipping you are making them work without pay. I don't know why you're trying to turn this around on us like we're the ones who made it this way. The people you're talking to here and on Twitter can't change it.

 

Also, please do not try to pass off not tipping as some kind of act of resistance against the company or against tipping or whatever. We all know the real reasons people don't tip. Tipping or asking people to tip doesn't mean we're "brainwashed." Not tipping accomplishes nothing except for hurting the service worker.

 

3 hours ago, Raptus said:

And then saying "You  shouldn't order food if you can't afford to tip "   

 

 

In America, some service workers rely on tips, so if you use their services without tipping you are making them work without pay. If knowing that does not make you feel guilty about not tipping workers who rely on tips, I am almost certain you lack empathy in a serious way. If you knowingly go out and make yourself the reason someone else has to work without pay, and you do not feel bad about that, then there is something wrong with you.

 

1 hour ago, Daddy said:

Americans are wild with their tip culture. Not a DoorDash delivery driver calling someone a ******* loser  

 

I gladly just go out, walk 3 minutes and get my food by myself. There's plenty around. 

 

Well welcome to America, where most of us live in either rural-ish towns or in the suburbs. For many of us the closest food options are McDonalds and Taco Bell and they're a 20+ minute drive away each way. And most people order food when they're drunk, high, tired, etc.

 

1 hour ago, Mordecai said:

Right, are people that lazy that they can't get in their car and drive for 5-10 mins to the shop?

 

I'm not paying extra for a delivery fee and item markups, plus the food's probably not even gonna be hot when you get it

There have been a lot of wild posts in this thread, but this might be the most wild to me. Do you not know there's a lot of people who do not or cannot own a car for whatever reasons? Is it just **** all those people? No McDonald's for them? Like what is the tea

Edited July 26, 2023 by Solaris

[Raptus]

27 minutes ago, Solaris said:

In America, some service workers rely on tips, so if you use their services without tipping you are making them work without pay. If knowing that does not make you feel guilty about not tipping workers who rely on tips, I am almost certain you lack empathy in a serious way. If you knowingly go out and make yourself the reason someone else has to work without pay, and you do not feel bad about that, then there is something wrong with you.

Typical brainwashed American If all tips stoped people would stop working there and corporations  like Doordash would have to start paying livable wages or they would go bankrupt.

[Solaris]

4 minutes ago, Raptus said:

Typical brainwashed American If all tips stoped people would stop working there and corporations  like Doordash would have to start paying livable wages or they would go bankrupt.

There are a lot of people in America who work for jobs like Doordash and they do not want to lose their jobs. You’re so dismissive of jobs held by lots and lots of people. Not to mention you’re smug and rude.

[Nights]

3 hours ago, Keter said:

Apart from people with disabilities or those who are homebound, I do not understand the use of these services. I’m not paying some random third party to deliver my food that may never show up, might have a bite taken out of it, might be delivered by a serial killer, might lead to home invasion/assault cuz they didn’t get a $57 tip, etc. Just go get your damn food! 

 

1 hour ago, Mordecai said:

Right, are people that lazy that they can't get in their car and drive for 5-10 mins to the shop?

 

I'm not paying extra for a delivery fee and item markups, plus the food's probably not even gonna be hot when you get it

It really isn't that shocking that some people might choose to use their own money to pay for an additional service that takes a bit of effort and time off their own backs. Everyone (including you and me) makes those types of decisions everyday.

Not everyone has a car they can just hop into. Not everyone has food places within walking distance. Sometimes people feel for something specific that's out of reach for them at the moment but a delivery service can provide. People are allowed to be lazy and want to rest and not have to leave their homes on certain days. Some people are heavily introverted home bodies who'd prefer to stay in the comfort of their homes. Etc.

[onapearl]

Another one? I swear this happened not that long ago with a different food delivery worker. I think, post-Covid, you're getting a lot bottom-of-the-barrel people working for these kinds of companies anymore because it's not worth the BS for most people who can get a job doing anything else. Tipping culture in the US is absurd, especially in states like where I live where service workers are guaranteed minimum wage and the minimum wage is one of the highest in the country. 

 

That said, not tipping at all when you're from here and know how things work is pretty trashy. But so is flipping out about not getting a tip. Idk.

 

But also, as someone who tries to be concious of their spending, I find regularly using these kinds of delivery services to be really decadent. Not only are you paying the high price for restaurant food (even if it's just fast food, it's still expensive anymore), you're paying multiple extra fees on top of it. Plus the tip, if you're not trashy. I can see doing it every once in a while, but I know of people who do it regularly and it's like, where do you get the money? And then you find out that they don't actually have that much and are actually struggling with money... but then keep ordering delivered restaurant food. Like, just stock up on some frozen meals if you're tired.

 

2 hours ago, May said:

every other country manages it just fine, why can’t you?

Because America is a corrupt corporatocracy where execs and bankers bribe politicians with "campaign donations" and then the government is in the ears and pockets of the media who cape for them all instead of calling the broken system out. Idek where the tipping system originated, but I'm sure it was from something stupid and corrupt.

[Pheromosa]

Get a real job obese! 

[TaggedGalaxy]

I’ve never done DoorDash before but I heard that the driver can see ahead of time if there is a tip or not and has the option to accept the delivery or not. Why would he accept the delivery if he saw there was no tip when the order came in?

[EriKills]

Hate our tipping culture, I'd rather know the costs up front than have to constantly guess if my tip is "good enough", 20% being the "standard" when it used to be 15% (this system massively benefitting workers at high end restaurants and disadvantaging the affordable ones), food prices already up massively....

 

and tbh most people that work for tips here (waiters anyways) would rather KEEP this system than go to a "livable wage" style system, they're shorted here and there but on average make a lot more than what they would make with a minimum wage job. 

 

DoorDash is especially a mess because they charge so much for delivery fees and then you have to tip on top of the charge?  

[BlackoutZone]

49 minutes ago, Solaris said:

I don't think people are defending DoorDash or tipping as a whole, people are defending the employee because many of us sympathize with him. Most of us agree with you that it's a messed up situation, but the situation is that in America some service workers rely on tips, and if you use their services without tipping you are making them work without pay. I don't know why you're trying to turn this around on us like we're the ones who made it this way. The people you're talking to here and on Twitter can't change it.

It's not about defending, it's about the mindset that became so deeply rooted (and it was originally planted BY greedy capitalist companies) that there are people justifying this unstable and threatening behavior, because a guy didn't get a tip. I find it concerning and brainwashed. I can very much sympathize with people who work in a field and struggle to live of their wage without tips, but in no way does this justify his reaction. Not to mention he knows what he's signing for - tips, even if in the US it is rude not to give them, are optional. He cannot act like a fool cause someone decided not to tip him. If this isn't a suitable job for him, he should find something else.

[Mordecai]

44 minutes ago, Solaris said:

There have been a lot of wild posts in this thread, but this might be the most wild to me. Do you not know there's a lot of people who do not or cannot own a car for whatever reasons? Is it just **** all those people? No McDonald's for them? Like what is the tea

You're in a thread about someone cussing out a customer for not tipping and you think my post is the wildest?

 

America is renowned for having shitty public transport and a reliance on cars. Of course I'm not talking about the people who don't have the means to own get food themselves but if you cannot afford a car and are ordering food on these apps all the time then you need to get your priorities checked.

 

9 minutes ago, Nights said:

 

It really isn't that shocking that some people might choose to use their own money to pay for an additional service that takes a bit of effort and time off their own backs. Everyone (including you and me) makes those types of decisions everyday.

Not everyone has a car they can just hop into. Not everyone has food places within walking distance. Sometimes people feel for something specific that's out of reach for them at the moment but a delivery service can provide. People are allowed to be lazy and want to rest and not have to leave their homes on certain days. Some people are heavily introverted home bodies who'd prefer to stay in the comfort of their homes. Etc.

Why are people ignoring the fact that I'm obviously not calling out the ones who have reasons beyond convenience that use these apps... I know many people who use uber eats and most of them use it ALL the time as if it's like clockwork to them and they're regular people just like you and me. These are usually the same people who like to call themselves 'broke' and have terrible financial management skills.

 

Like yeah I get people can spend their money on whatever they want but to me personally it just seems like a complete waste of money, don't even get me started on tipping culture

[onapearl]

9 minutes ago, EriKills said:

and tbh most people that work for tips here (waiters anyways) would rather KEEP this system than go to a "livable wage" style system, they're shorted here and there but on average make a lot more than what they would make with a minimum wage job. 

A lot of the tips come in the form of cash, which the majority of the time aren't reported as income for taxes, so they get to pocket it all. So I think you're right, to an extent. 

[Chiidish]

1 hour ago, Solaris said:

 

I don't think people are defending DoorDash or tipping as a whole, people are defending the employee because many of us sympathize with him. Most of us agree with you that it's a messed up situation, but the situation is that in America some service workers rely on tips, and if you use their services without tipping you are making them work without pay. I don't know why you're trying to turn this around on us like we're the ones who made it this way. The people you're talking to here and on Twitter can't change it.

 

Also, please do not try to pass off not tipping as some kind of act of resistance against the company or against tipping or whatever. We all know the real reasons people don't tip. Tipping or asking people to tip doesn't mean we're "brainwashed." Not tipping accomplishes nothing except for hurting the service worker.

 

 

In America, some service workers rely on tips, so if you use their services without tipping you are making them work without pay. If knowing that does not make you feel guilty about not tipping workers who rely on tips, I am almost certain you lack empathy in a serious way. If you knowingly go out and make yourself the reason someone else has to work without pay, and you do not feel bad about that, then there is something wrong with you.

 

 

Well welcome to America, where most of us live in either rural-ish towns or in the suburbs. For many of us the closest food options are McDonalds and Taco Bell and they're a 20+ minute drive away each way. And most people order food when they're drunk, high, tired, etc.

 

There have been a lot of wild posts in this thread, but this might be the most wild to me. Do you not know there's a lot of people who do not or cannot own a car for whatever reasons? Is it just **** all those people? No McDonald's for them? Like what is the tea

Everything this user said.

 

 

[OrgVisual]

22 minutes ago, BlackoutZone said:

It's not about defending, it's about the mindset that became so deeply rooted (and it was originally planted BY greedy capitalist companies) that there are people justifying this unstable and threatening behavior, because a guy didn't get a tip. I find it concerning and brainwashed. I can very much sympathize with people who work in a field and struggle to live of their wage without tips, but in no way does this justify his reaction. Not to mention he knows what he's signing for - tips, even if in the US it is rude not to give them, are optional. He cannot act like a fool cause someone decided not to tip him. If this isn't a suitable job for him, he should find something else.

Exactly, how the culture is supposed to change if when incidents like this happen, people will go after shaming the consumers instead of raising the question about liveable wage?

 

But I think things are gonna change, with so many stories like this making headlines now, and people are starting to react to it

 

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A new survey by Bankrate has found an interesting trend among consumers when it comes to tipping: two-thirds of Americans view tipping negatively now, according to the survey.

Customers are cutting back on tips across all forms of service including sit-down restaurants, cafes and delivery.

 

 

[Keter]

52 minutes ago, Nights said:

 

It really isn't that shocking that some people might choose to use their own money to pay for an additional service that takes a bit of effort and time off their own backs. Everyone (including you and me) makes those types of decisions everyday.

Not everyone has a car they can just hop into. Not everyone has food places within walking distance. Sometimes people feel for something specific that's out of reach for them at the moment but a delivery service can provide. People are allowed to be lazy and want to rest and not have to leave their homes on certain days. Some people are heavily introverted home bodies who'd prefer to stay in the comfort of their homes. Etc.

I agree and I think my initial comment made room for those exceptions. We’ve had pizza and Chinese delivered for years, so everything else makes sense as well.
 

My issue is the added hassle that comes with these third party agents that could be whoever doing whatever. That’s anyone, when you get down to it, but at least a delivery driver worked for the actual place you ordered from and you could follow up if needed.

 

These third party apps are in their infancy and they have a lot of kinks to work out in terms of workflows, best practices, and safety. The number of posts of weird comments on the doordash subreddit asking for dates, more tips, picking up food just to steal it, doing weird **** is crazy! 

[Bloo]

Tipping culture has to f**king go. 

[MonsterJohn]

Trash country. Everyone are slave to money but most are too stupid to focus on the root cause of their struggle

[Gladiator]

9 hours ago, Keter said:

Apart from people with disabilities or those who are homebound, I do not understand the use of these services. I’m not paying some random third party to deliver my food that may never show up, might have a bite taken out of it, might be delivered by a serial killer, might lead to home invasion/assault cuz they didn’t get a $57 tip, etc. Just go get your damn food! 

I totally agree. Other than people who are legitimately not able to make it somewhere, I do not understand why people indulge in such laziness. It costs way more than the gas it would take to get there to pay for the delivery fee and deal with tips. I just don't understand.

[Keter]

2 minutes ago, Gladiator said:

I totally agree. Other than people who are legitimately not able to make it somewhere, I do not understand why people indulge in such laziness. It costs way more than the gas it would take to get there to pay for the delivery fee and deal with tips. I just don't understand.

Yes! My coworker one time was gonna pay $24 for delivery from around the corner. It cost more than the meal. 

[Queen.]

just get another job??? I just don't understand how hard it could be....

 

 

[Chris]

Is this the same guy as last time that got mad over a tip?
 

[Dessy]

I don't get complaining about an individual's (lack of) tip as a dasher. Just move on and try your luck with the next order.