celeb news BLACKPINK still on-going negotations with YG. contract expired for 3+ months already

[Superbitch]

I don’t understand their releases. They’re always super hyped and do well but then they disappear. Is this how all kpop works or is it just them?

[MingYouToo]

14 minutes ago, Asscatchem said:

you just made me realize re-sign and resign have opposite meanings but are spelled exactly the same

but tea i agree with you regarding your predictions. jennie realized she's too good for YG years ago, there's no way in hell she's resigning without holding majority stake in the company or something

lisa can slay any hip hop demo. i see jisoo staying for your reasons mentioned. im unsure about rose, she hasn't proven anything for me yet

rose has shown musically that she's in that weird electro-pop-rock sphere of music as a soloist and that's very hard to market in korea. on the other hand, there's not much success to be found building your entire identity around that if your goal is to enter the global mainstream (olivia rodrigo is a case that proves otherwise but its just her, no one else). however, if the jack antonoff solo album is true, i fear she will have a smash album in her hands

 

korea wants her but she clearly wants to be a global (i.e. english) singer, the problem is what angle will she take that separates her from lisa/jennie and still be successful solo?

[MingYouToo]

2 minutes ago, Superbitch said:

I don’t understand their releases. They’re always super hyped and do well but then they disappear. Is this how all kpop works or is it just them?

K-pop releases are almost always fan-driven. There's large interest at first but then the numbers fall off because K-pop is driven mostly by the audiovisual experience, the visuals usually tide fans over once the music gets redundant. With BP, they have occasionally great songs but so much of their identity is around party-bangers that their numbers usually fall off after a few weeks bc the songs get boring. This pattern goes for almost every K-pop group globally, its just exacerbated by BLACKPINK bc of how massive they are globally.

 

BTS gets to maintain momentum bc of fraudulence, nothing more nothing less.

[Superbitch]

1 minute ago, MingYouToo said:

K-pop releases are almost always fan-driven. There's large interest at first but then the numbers fall off because K-pop is driven mostly by the audiovisual experience, the visuals usually tide fans over once the music gets redundant. With BP, they have occasionally great songs but so much of their identity is around party-bangers that their numbers usually fall off after a few weeks bc the songs get boring. This pattern goes for almost every K-pop group globally, its just exacerbated by BLACKPINK bc of how massive they are globally.

 

BTS gets to maintain momentum bc of fraudulence, nothing more nothing less.

The bts lashings

 

so it’s a kpop thing. I thought it could be mostly cuz of their **** label 

[MingYouToo]

2 minutes ago, Superbitch said:

The bts lashings

 

so it’s a kpop thing. I thought it could be mostly cuz of their **** label 

Its also bc its objectively way harder to maintain global momentum when your songs aren't fully in English. The appeal dies off very quickly, there isn't enough of an audience in Asia (even if they're massive in SEA) that consistently supports Korean songs. Korea has their own streaming services, SEA likes K-pop but its more of a novelty and not something that is consistently streamed like, say, Taylor Swift (bc almost everyone there speaks English)

 

Making party songs that eventually get dull + not fully English = little forward momentum towards the general listening audience.

[Starchild]

26 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

rose has shown musically that she's in that weird electro-pop-rock sphere of music as a soloist and that's very hard to market in korea. on the other hand, there's not much success to be found building your entire identity around that if your goal is to enter the global mainstream (olivia rodrigo is a case that proves otherwise but its just her, no one else). however, if the jack antonoff solo album is true, i fear she will have a smash album in her hands

 

korea wants her but she clearly wants to be a global (i.e. english) singer, the problem is what angle will she take that separates her from lisa/jennie and still be successful solo?

Why are people underestimating rosé?

I've never really vibed with BPs music  (though I love thier personalities) but I've heard rose's solo stuff and it's pretty good. Is she really making an album with Jack? If so wow she could really break through here 

[MingYouToo]

25 minutes ago, Starchild said:

Why are people underestimating rosé?

I've never really vibed with BPs music  (though I love thier personalities) but I've heard rose's solo stuff and it's pretty good. Is she really making an album with Jack? If so wow she could really break through here 

Oh I'm not underestimating her, if anyone has musical talent in BP its her.

 

What I am curious about and love to discuss is her public career decisions and what angle she chooses to take. I have zero doubt about her talent and popularity. My question has always been will she choose to go deeper into Korea and effortlessly smash or abandon/put them aside for a chance at a popgirl career in the West? Korea will willingly embrace her while the fight for a popgirl era as a soloist will be much harder however this is clearly the path she wants to take.

 

If the 3 of them go solo, the akgae behavior will be intensified tenfold (thats kinda a good thing, maximize fandom engagement), Rose just needs to find the right sound. She was seen leaving Electric Lady studios iirc like late last year and Jack posted stuff with her, her Midnights era is upon us I fear

[duybeeGAshantiGA]

Rumour has it that Rosé may renew the contract we lost.

Edited August 1, 2023 by duybeeGAshantiGA

[kataraqueen]

6 hours ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

Rumour has it that Rosé may renew the contract we lost.

Omg what  they're all from rich families I'm sure they're equipped with good lawyers who'll help them make a sound decision

[duybeeGAshantiGA]

8 minutes ago, kataraqueen said:

Omg what  they're all from rich families I'm sure they're equipped with good lawyers who'll help them make a sound decision

It's not like we really know what tje girls actually think ... 

[kataraqueen]

53 minutes ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

It's not like we really know what tje girls actually think ... 

exactly so why wouldnt i assume (/ manifest) the best for them 

Edited August 1, 2023 by kataraqueen

[Asscatchem]

8 hours ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

Rumour has it that Rosé may renew the contract we lost.

every member was serving foot halfway out the door energy for years

but id love to see the receipts still

[kataraqueen]

1 hour ago, Asscatchem said:

every member was serving foot halfway out the door energy for years

but id love to see the receipts still

"YG give us work you RAT" really does feel how they've been thinking tbh

[fromily]

On 8/1/2023 at 2:07 AM, kataraqueen said:

a subpar discography with a few big hits as if they didn't revitalize girl crush concepts and release whistle - playing with fire - as if it's your last back to back 💀 yall do too much on these girls

 omg literally how is it doing too much when I said they've achieved unbelievable global success as a girl group (a compliment) and that they managed to do that with a few hits (idk why you only named three when they have several more, and bigger ones at that?) and an otherwise subpar discography (a backhanded compliment but a compliment nonetheless - they've achieved so much with so little). And ofc I know that they revitalised the girl crush concept but that's kind of irrelevant to the issue at hand?

 

I like bp! And as our lord and saviour Jennie said, we shoud be ready for love, not hate, when reading posts online 

[Doogle]

Rose is by far my fave but I think if she gets her way we will get an incredible electro pop type album with some rock influences that bombs but is generally well received and considered a bit of a cult classic. I have no real reason for this prediction but based on On The Ground giving me Robyn lite I could really see that working for her. I think she’s better off without Korea anyway

[Gladiator]

50 minutes ago, Doogle said:

Rose is by far my fave but I think if she gets her way we will get an incredible electro pop type album with some rock influences that bombs but is generally well received and considered a bit of a cult classic. I have no real reason for this prediction but based on On The Ground giving me Robyn lite I could really see that working for her. I think she’s better off without Korea anyway

Rosé is also my favorite and I totally see that happening.

[kataraqueen]

4 hours ago, fromily said:

 omg literally how is it doing too much when I said they've achieved unbelievable global success as a girl group (a compliment) and that they managed to do that with a few hits (idk why you only named three when they have several more, and bigger ones at that?) and an otherwise subpar discography (a backhanded compliment but a compliment nonetheless - they've achieved so much with so little). And ofc I know that they revitalised the girl crush concept but that's kind of irrelevant to the issue at hand?

 

I like bp! And as our lord and saviour Jennie said, we shoud be ready for love, not hate, when reading posts online 

I wasn't naming just hits I was saying their discography isn't sub-par while naming hits. Also ofc I'll name the smaller ones, since you said they made their name with just a few hits? We all know Dx4, HWYLT and KTL are their biggest. With 6 hits, that's not a few hits anymore imo

no idea why you're backtracking this hard I'm just saying y'all do too much on the girls' discography   did they complain about wanting more? Yes. Has Rosé released like 4 solo songs since? Also yes lol. YG paid for their outfits those eras before they became fashion moguls. You think they could've afforded that had they released more frequently? Their less-is-more promotional strategy was a big part of their success so it's always a bit jarring to see people come for it this hard. BLACKPINK would not be where it is today had they released like 2NE1 or Twice. That's real talk 
 

this isn't kpop stan twitter I'm not gonna ddox you for your opinion babes lmao. Ya love the girls woop woop. Why do you think their discography is subpar and why do you think they only had a few hits? 

[Asscatchem]

 

 

 

pennies. let jennie pursue her billionaire status with Jennie Ruby Jane Beauty

[MardinBeksloy]

1 hour ago, Asscatchem said:

 

 

 

pennies. let jennie pursue her billionaire status with Jennie Ruby Jane Beauty

Watch them being put in the dungeon after they renew  

Edited August 4, 2023 by MardinBeksloy

[Asscatchem]

32 minutes ago, MardinBeksloy said:

Watch them being put in the dungeon after they renew  

why pocket $1mil and have to work for that 80% in earnings when lisa can bag $80mil on the spot?

[J Legend X]

2 hours ago, Asscatchem said:

why pocket $1mil and have to work for that 80% in earnings when lisa can bag $80mil on the spot?

Queen of loving ART not money tbh ! 

[kataraqueen]

2 hours ago, Asscatchem said:

why pocket $1mil and have to work for that 80% in earnings when lisa can bag $80mil on the spot?

the company also sponsored their whole existence so maybe it's in their culture to want to respect that

[fromily]

On 8/3/2023 at 12:57 AM, kataraqueen said:

I wasn't naming just hits I was saying their discography isn't sub-par while naming hits. Also ofc I'll name the smaller ones, since you said they made their name with just a few hits? We all know Dx4, HWYLT and KTL are their biggest. With 6 hits, that's not a few hits anymore imo

no idea why you're backtracking this hard I'm just saying y'all do too much on the girls' discography   did they complain about wanting more? Yes. Has Rosé released like 4 solo songs since? Also yes lol. YG paid for their outfits those eras before they became fashion moguls. You think they could've afforded that had they released more frequently? Their less-is-more promotional strategy was a big part of their success so it's always a bit jarring to see people come for it this hard. BLACKPINK would not be where it is today had they released like 2NE1 or Twice. That's real talk 
 

this isn't kpop stan twitter I'm not gonna ddox you for your opinion babes lmao. Ya love the girls woop woop. Why do you think their discography is subpar and why do you think they only had a few hits? 

I'm not backtracking lmao that's the point. I wasn't trying to minimise the girls' achievements, I was just acknowledging (as many many people have done before me) that their actual musical output (besides a few of their singles) is pretty mid for an a-list group which is weird because a) they've clearly got the resources to do better and b) if you're going to release fewer songs then the expectation is that those songs should be amazing because there's no filler right? And yet...

 

But honestly a lot of these talking points make zero sense. The girls (collectively) want more music but that's not a problem anymore because rose got four solo songs? Like how does that... solve that issue at all? As for the less is more strategy... there's less and then there's releasing nothing for nearly two years. And that is not because they had expensive gowns. Like that is a genuinely laughable suggestion. Idek what to say to that except that you must be pretty new to k-pop (which is totally fine! welcome lol)

 

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And btw you implying that I must not actually be a fan because I'm critical of their discography is pretty much the definition of stan twitter behaviour jsyk

And on that note we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this whole discussion because you suggesting that 2ne1 and twice have/had comparable promotions took me tf out. I'm speaking from beyond the grave rn. Truly the wildest take I have ever seen in my entire life  So thanks for that 

 

[kataraqueen]

2 hours ago, fromily said:

I'm not backtracking lmao that's the point. I wasn't trying to minimise the girls' achievements, I was just acknowledging (as many many people have done before me) that their actual musical output (besides a few of their singles) is pretty mid for an a-list group which is weird because a) they've clearly got the resources to do better and b) if you're going to release fewer songs then the expectation is that those songs should be amazing because there's no filler right? And yet...

 

But honestly a lot of these talking points make zero sense. The girls (collectively) want more music but that's not a problem anymore because rose got four solo songs? Like how does that... solve that issue at all? As for the less is more strategy... there's less and then there's releasing nothing for nearly two years. And that is not because they had expensive gowns. Like that is a genuinely laughable suggestion. Idek what to say to that except that you must be pretty new to k-pop (which is totally fine! welcome lol)

 

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And btw you implying that I must not actually be a fan because I'm critical of their discography is pretty much the definition of stan twitter behaviour jsyk

And on that note we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this whole discussion because you suggesting that 2ne1 and twice have/had comparable promotions took me tf out. I'm speaking from beyond the grave rn. Truly the wildest take I have ever seen in my entire life  So thanks for that 

 

Never said ure not a fan i just said yall do too much on the girls (and u admit a lot of people do so)

 

I meant it like if they had had promotions like Twice or EVEN 2ne1 it wouldn't have worked as well

 

I've been a fan since SNSD's prime I've followed k-pop at a large for a while and I was here for BLACKPINK since the countdown for their debut. Starving their fans for releases, and having stylists take runway pieces and cut them up for their performances was the obvious positive from their release strategy

 

I'm saying that the girls said that back then but we don't know how they feel about their release pace in this current moment, and that some of the issues are not as bad anymore as they were back then. Especially in retrospect, seeing how that break allowed them to become fashion moguls. Do you think that Dior and YSL would be giving deals to girls that sweat every 2 months over (in their minds) kidz bop sh.t? Do you not realize how focussing on their instagrams allowed for all this success? 

you keep misinterpreting my words and what's laughable is how pressed you keep being when all I wanted to hear is why you think their discography is so mid  just name the songs you think are mid like damn

[Asscatchem]

7 hours ago, kataraqueen said:

the company also sponsored their whole existence so maybe it's in their culture to want to respect that

this is company bootlicking