poll Most successful 8th album: Anti x folklore x Music?

[airplane]

Just now, Headlock said:

Thank you for proving their point 

No points were made, only a number salad.

[Headlock]

2 minutes ago, airplane said:

No points were made, only a number salad.

Which is the topic of this thread  

[The Music Industry]

10 minutes ago, Headlock said:

What is even more hilarious about the ~certification~ argument is that there is no consistency across countries for the amount required to reach certification levels. Saying one album was 2x platinum in a country, where that means like 15,000 copies, is not serve you think it is when in other countries that means 2,000,000 copies 

It gets even weirder when they try to combine single certifications with album certifications (despite one being regularly worth 10 times what the other one is), which *that* particular fanbase loves to do for a reason 

 

2 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Which is the topic of this thread  

Using numbers in a thread asking which album is bigger is just unconceivable to some 

Edited July 28, 2023 by The Music Industry

[Klein]

12 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

 Not only are you comparing 7 years of automatic certs vs 3 years, but in a few months max, folklore will be 2x Platinum in the UK (it's already over 500K based on Official Charts data - more than anti in way less time). That new certification alone is bigger than the difference between the 2 in all the outstanding countries you named... Not to mention that Taylor will also eventually overtake New Zealand and even possibly Italy with the tour next year. The only countries out of these where anti has a chance of staying ahead are some of the mainland European ones, which also happen to be Taylor's weakest markets . 

 

Since you want to be selective and stick to a metric that is scarcely updated, only used in a few markets around the globe and that doesn't take into consideration that one album is 3.5 years older, let's actually look at the charts of some of the countries you mentioned as receipt that anti is bigger. 

 

Anti (peaked at #6 ) only charted for 102 weeks in total (regular + catalogue charts), and is currently OUT of the top 30 on the catalogue chart. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) is still charting after 132 weeks (regular + catalogue charts) and is currently #7 on the catalogue chart. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = #17 

Year 2: folklore = #27, Anti = #28

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 66 weeks in total, including only 32 weeks in the top 40. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 3 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, including 96 weeks in the top 40 - it's currently still #18. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #12, Anti = #32 

Year 2: folklore = #38, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #5 ) only charted for 16 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.  

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, and is currently still #11. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #2, Anti = #64 

Year 2: folklore = #20, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #25, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 13 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago. 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 34 weeks, and is currently still #23. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #66, Anti = OUT

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #8 for Flanders, #8 for Wallonia) only charted 14 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for Flanders, #3 for Wallonia) has charted for 89 weeks, and is currently still #15. 

 

Year-end charts (Flanders)

Year 1: folklore = #30, Anti = #71 

Year 2: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 1 week) only charted for 112 weeks, and is currently OUT. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has charted for 156 weeks, and is currently still #17. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #9, Anti = #6* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #14, Anti = #33

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #3) only charted for 8 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #5) has charted for 16 weeks, and is currently still #37. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #89, Anti = #75* (*benefitted from being released in January)

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #4) only charted for 34 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 149 weeks, and is currently still #41. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #52, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #70, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #69, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) has charted 377 weeks, including 140 in the top 100. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 8 weeks)  has spent its ENTIRE chart run (157 weeks) in the top 100, and is still #10. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #5, Anti = #5* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #12, Anti = #23

Year 3: folklore = #41, Anti = #97

 

Mind you, since you wanted to limit this to countries with certifications, it didn't include countries like... 

 

Portugal

 

Anti (peaked at #11) only charted for 4 weeks ( ). 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 29 weeks. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #53, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #80, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #85, Anti = OUT

 

Ireland

 

Anti (peaked at #2) only charted for 65 weeks, and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has been charting for 157 weeks, and is still #9. 

 

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #18, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #22 (as of mid-year), Anti = OUT

 

So to recap, in most of the countries you named for North America and Europe (the exceptions being Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France and maybe Italy), folklore is ACTUALLY bigger on the charts despite the outdated certification levels - and will only get bigger seeing as it's still charting in most European countries   Mind you, since you're fixated on certs, Asia was completely erased from this conversation despite being the biggest continent and fastest growing music market on Earth. I think there's no need to tell you which album is bigger there either. We both know which it is

 

Folklore has obviously sold way more in pure sales (the gap will continue to grow - it's a classic for vinyl owners), has charted for more weeks on official charts around the world (the gap will continue to grow, it's charting in 15+ countries whereas Anti is charting in 1), has moved more global units (the gap will continue to grow, it's getting close to 4 times more daily units than anti), will soon have more Spotify streams (folklore is getting close to 4 times more daily streams). So trust me, no one takes you and your botched argument about certs seriously!

 

Good looord 

[Raspberries]

10 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

 Not only are you comparing 7 years of automatic certs vs 3 years, but in a few months max, folklore will be 2x Platinum in the UK (it's already over 500K based on Official Charts data - more than anti in way less time). That new certification alone is bigger than the difference between the 2 in all the outstanding countries you named... Not to mention that Taylor will also eventually overtake New Zealand and even possibly Italy with the tour next year. The only countries out of these where anti has a chance of staying ahead are some of the mainland European ones, which also happen to be Taylor's weakest markets . 

 

Since you want to be selective and stick to a metric that is scarcely updated, only used in a few markets around the globe and that doesn't take into consideration that one album is 3.5 years older, let's actually look at the charts of some of the countries you mentioned as receipt that anti is bigger. 

 

Anti (peaked at #6 ) only charted for 102 weeks in total (regular + catalogue charts), and is currently OUT of the top 30 on the catalogue chart. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) is still charting after 132 weeks (regular + catalogue charts) and is currently #7 on the catalogue chart. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = #17 

Year 2: folklore = #27, Anti = #28

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 66 weeks in total, including only 32 weeks in the top 40. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 3 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, including 96 weeks in the top 40 - it's currently still #18. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #12, Anti = #32 

Year 2: folklore = #38, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #5 ) only charted for 16 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.  

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, and is currently still #11. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #2, Anti = #64 

Year 2: folklore = #20, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #25, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 13 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago. 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 34 weeks, and is currently still #23. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #66, Anti = OUT

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #8 for Flanders, #8 for Wallonia) only charted 14 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for Flanders, #3 for Wallonia) has charted for 89 weeks, and is currently still #15. 

 

Year-end charts (Flanders)

Year 1: folklore = #30, Anti = #71 

Year 2: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 1 week) only charted for 112 weeks, and is currently OUT. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has charted for 156 weeks, and is currently still #17. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #9, Anti = #6* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #14, Anti = #33

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #3) only charted for 8 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #5) has charted for 16 weeks, and is currently still #37. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #89, Anti = #75* (*benefitted from being released in January)

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #4) only charted for 34 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 149 weeks, and is currently still #41. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #52, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #70, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #69, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) has charted 377 weeks, including 140 in the top 100. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 8 weeks)  has spent its ENTIRE chart run (157 weeks) in the top 100, and is still #10. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #5, Anti = #5* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #12, Anti = #23

Year 3: folklore = #41, Anti = #97

 

Mind you, since you wanted to limit this to countries with certifications, it didn't include countries like... 

 

Portugal

 

Anti (peaked at #11) only charted for 4 weeks ( ). 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 29 weeks. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #53, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #80, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #85, Anti = OUT

 

Ireland

 

Anti (peaked at #2) only charted for 65 weeks, and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has been charting for 157 weeks, and is still #9. 

 

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #18, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #22 (as of mid-year), Anti = OUT

 

So to recap, in most of the countries you named for North America and Europe (the exceptions being Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France and maybe Italy), folklore is ACTUALLY bigger on the charts despite the outdated certification levels - and will only get bigger seeing as it's still charting in most European countries   Mind you, since you're fixated on certs, Asia was completely erased from this conversation despite being the biggest continent and fastest growing music market on Earth. I think there's no need to tell you which album is bigger there either. We both know which it is

 

Folklore has obviously sold way more in pure sales (the gap will continue to grow - it's a classic for vinyl owners), has charted for more weeks on official charts around the world (the gap will continue to grow, it's charting in 15+ countries whereas Anti is charting in 1), has moved more global units (the gap will continue to grow, it's getting close to 4 times more daily units than anti), will soon have more Spotify streams (folklore is getting close to 4 times more daily streams). So trust me, no one takes you and your botched argument about certs seriously!

 

My god

[Solaria]

13 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

 Not only are you comparing 7 years of automatic certs vs 3 years, but in a few months max, folklore will be 2x Platinum in the UK (it's already over 500K based on Official Charts data - more than anti in way less time). That new certification alone is bigger than the difference between the 2 in all the outstanding countries you named... Not to mention that Taylor will also eventually overtake New Zealand and even possibly Italy with the tour next year. The only countries out of these where anti has a chance of staying ahead are some of the mainland European ones, which also happen to be Taylor's weakest markets . 

 

Since you want to be selective and stick to a metric that is scarcely updated, only used in a few markets around the globe and that doesn't take into consideration that one album is 3.5 years older, let's actually look at the charts of some of the countries you mentioned as receipt that anti is bigger. 

 

Anti (peaked at #6 ) only charted for 102 weeks in total (regular + catalogue charts), and is currently OUT of the top 30 on the catalogue chart. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) is still charting after 132 weeks (regular + catalogue charts) and is currently #7 on the catalogue chart. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = #17 

Year 2: folklore = #27, Anti = #28

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 66 weeks in total, including only 32 weeks in the top 40. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 3 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, including 96 weeks in the top 40 - it's currently still #18. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #12, Anti = #32 

Year 2: folklore = #38, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #5 ) only charted for 16 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.  

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, and is currently still #11. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #2, Anti = #64 

Year 2: folklore = #20, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #25, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 13 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago. 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 34 weeks, and is currently still #23. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #66, Anti = OUT

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #8 for Flanders, #8 for Wallonia) only charted 14 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for Flanders, #3 for Wallonia) has charted for 89 weeks, and is currently still #15. 

 

Year-end charts (Flanders)

Year 1: folklore = #30, Anti = #71 

Year 2: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 1 week) only charted for 112 weeks, and is currently OUT. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has charted for 156 weeks, and is currently still #17. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #9, Anti = #6* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #14, Anti = #33

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #3) only charted for 8 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #5) has charted for 16 weeks, and is currently still #37. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #89, Anti = #75* (*benefitted from being released in January)

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #4) only charted for 34 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 149 weeks, and is currently still #41. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #52, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #70, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #69, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) has charted 377 weeks, including 140 in the top 100. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 8 weeks)  has spent its ENTIRE chart run (157 weeks) in the top 100, and is still #10. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #5, Anti = #5* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #12, Anti = #23

Year 3: folklore = #41, Anti = #97

 

Mind you, since you wanted to limit this to countries with certifications, it didn't include countries like... 

 

Portugal

 

Anti (peaked at #11) only charted for 4 weeks ( ). 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 29 weeks. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #53, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #80, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #85, Anti = OUT

 

Ireland

 

Anti (peaked at #2) only charted for 65 weeks, and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has been charting for 157 weeks, and is still #9. 

 

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #18, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #22 (as of mid-year), Anti = OUT

 

So to recap, in most of the countries you named for North America and Europe (the exceptions being Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France and maybe Italy), folklore is ACTUALLY bigger on the charts despite the outdated certification levels - and will only get bigger seeing as it's still charting in most European countries   Mind you, since you're fixated on certs, Asia was completely erased from this conversation despite being the biggest continent and fastest growing music market on Earth. I think there's no need to tell you which album is bigger there either. We both know which it is

 

Folklore has obviously sold way more in pure sales (the gap will continue to grow - it's a classic for vinyl owners), has charted for more weeks on official charts around the world (the gap will continue to grow, it's charting in 15+ countries whereas Anti is charting in 1), has moved more global units (the gap will continue to grow, it's getting close to 4 times more daily units than anti), will soon have more Spotify streams (folklore is getting close to 4 times more daily streams). So trust me, no one takes you and your botched argument about certs seriously!

 

No. Too boring. Please present a new argument without using charts, numbers, statistics, data analysis, IFPI, Billboard, Chartmasters. I CHALLENGE you. 

[By the Water]

15 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

 Not only are you comparing 7 years of automatic certs vs 3 years, but in a few months max, folklore will be 2x Platinum in the UK (it's already over 500K based on Official Charts data - more than anti in way less time). That new certification alone is bigger than the difference between the 2 in all the outstanding countries you named... Not to mention that Taylor will also eventually overtake New Zealand and even possibly Italy with the tour next year. The only countries out of these where anti has a chance of staying ahead are some of the mainland European ones, which also happen to be Taylor's weakest markets . 

 

Since you want to be selective and stick to a metric that is scarcely updated, only used in a few markets around the globe and that doesn't take into consideration that one album is 3.5 years older, let's actually look at the charts of some of the countries you mentioned as receipt that anti is bigger. 

 

Anti (peaked at #6 ) only charted for 102 weeks in total (regular + catalogue charts), and is currently OUT of the top 30 on the catalogue chart. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) is still charting after 132 weeks (regular + catalogue charts) and is currently #7 on the catalogue chart. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = #17 

Year 2: folklore = #27, Anti = #28

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 66 weeks in total, including only 32 weeks in the top 40. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 3 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, including 96 weeks in the top 40 - it's currently still #18. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #12, Anti = #32 

Year 2: folklore = #38, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #5 ) only charted for 16 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.  

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) is still charting after 157 weeks, and is currently still #11. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #2, Anti = #64 

Year 2: folklore = #20, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #25, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #7 ) only charted for 13 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago. 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 34 weeks, and is currently still #23. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #66, Anti = OUT

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #8 for Flanders, #8 for Wallonia) only charted 14 weeks ( ) and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for Flanders, #3 for Wallonia) has charted for 89 weeks, and is currently still #15. 

 

Year-end charts (Flanders)

Year 1: folklore = #30, Anti = #71 

Year 2: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #49, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 1 week) only charted for 112 weeks, and is currently OUT. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has charted for 156 weeks, and is currently still #17. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #9, Anti = #6* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #14, Anti = #33

Year 3: folklore = #30, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #3) only charted for 8 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #5) has charted for 16 weeks, and is currently still #37. 

 

Year-end charts 

Year 1: folklore = #89, Anti = #75* (*benefitted from being released in January)

(Both didn't make the year-end charts after that)

 

Anti (peaked at #4) only charted for 34 weeks ( ), and has been OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 149 weeks, and is currently still #41. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #52, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #70, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #69, Anti = OUT

 

Anti (peaked at #1 for 2 weeks) has charted 377 weeks, including 140 in the top 100. 

folklore (peaked at #1 for 8 weeks)  has spent its ENTIRE chart run (157 weeks) in the top 100, and is still #10. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #5, Anti = #5* (*benefitted from being released in January)

Year 2: folklore = #12, Anti = #23

Year 3: folklore = #41, Anti = #97

 

Mind you, since you wanted to limit this to countries with certifications, it didn't include countries like... 

 

Portugal

 

Anti (peaked at #11) only charted for 4 weeks ( ). 

folklore (peaked at #2) has charted for 29 weeks. 

 

Year-end charts

Year 1: folklore = #53, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #80, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #85, Anti = OUT

 

Ireland

 

Anti (peaked at #2) only charted for 65 weeks, and has been serving OUT forever ago.

folklore (peaked at #1 for 4 weeks) has been charting for 157 weeks, and is still #9. 

 

Year 1: folklore = #7, Anti = OUT

Year 2: folklore = #18, Anti = OUT

Year 3: folklore = #22 (as of mid-year), Anti = OUT

 

So to recap, in most of the countries you named for North America and Europe (the exceptions being Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France and maybe Italy), folklore is ACTUALLY bigger on the charts despite the outdated certification levels - and will only get bigger seeing as it's still charting in most European countries   Mind you, since you're fixated on certs, Asia was completely erased from this conversation despite being the biggest continent and fastest growing music market on Earth. I think there's no need to tell you which album is bigger there either. We both know which it is

 

Folklore has obviously sold way more in pure sales (the gap will continue to grow - it's a classic for vinyl owners), has charted for more weeks on official charts around the world (the gap will continue to grow, it's charting in 15+ countries whereas Anti is charting in 1), has moved more global units (the gap will continue to grow, it's getting close to 4 times more daily units than anti), will soon have more Spotify streams (folklore is getting close to 4 times more daily streams). So trust me, no one takes you and your botched argument about certs seriously!

 

Oh wow. Crazy to think that folklore is also pacing for a third top 15 placement on the YE BB200, something Anti only managed once

 

The navy still keeping this delusion just how they insisted Anti (10.6M) was bigger than reputation (13.1M), then switched to Lover (13M) and now folklore (10.9M). How long until they switch to evermore?

 

Edited July 28, 2023 by By the Water

[The Music Industry]

Just now, Love Again said:

No. Too boring. Please present a new argument without using charts, numbers, statistics, data analysis, IFPI, Billboard, Chartmasters. I CHALLENGE you. 

Now why would we do that in a thread about.... which album is bigger  

 

You're asking us NOT to use metrics that would objectively demonstrate which album is more successful in a thread specifically asking for that...? 

[airplane]

3 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

Using numbers in a thread asking which album is bigger is just unconceivable to some 

ANTI is still bigger as an overall era based on singles + album sales + streams but i hope typing all of that out was worth it  

 

Get some rest

[By the Water]

1 minute ago, Love Again said:

No. Too boring. Please present a new argument without using charts, numbers, statistics, data analysis, IFPI, Billboard, Chartmasters. I CHALLENGE you. 

Ok. Folklore is bigger than Anti + Music + Thriller combined because of *vibes*. Now deal with it

 

[Klein]

2 minutes ago, Love Again said:

No. Too boring. Please present a new argument without using charts, numbers, statistics, data analysis, IFPI, Billboard, Chartmasters. I CHALLENGE you. 

Serious question, why are you camping in this thread if it annoys you so much? 

 

Like, if you don't want to see numbers discussed, why entering a "most successful?" thread in the first place? 

[The Music Industry]

Just now, airplane said:

ANTI is still bigger as an overall era based on singles + album sales + streams but i hope typing all of that out was worth it  

 

Get some rest

Singles are already included in album equivalent units, so no. And in a couple months max, folklore will have more streams than anti anyway seeing as how it's getting close to 4 times more daily streams 

[Raspberries]

1 minute ago, airplane said:

ANTI is still bigger as an overall era based on singles + album sales + streams but i hope typing all of that out was worth it  

 

Get some rest

It most certainly is not, darling 

[Solaria]

1 minute ago, By the Water said:

Ok. Folklore is bigger than Anti + Music + Thriller combined because of *vibes*. Now deal with it

 

But ANTI was a much bigger moment and much more documented and was a triumph in Rihanna's career. Folklore, yknow she's a cute girl but put her next to Rihanna's gorgeous moment yknow gorgeous devours CUTE!

 

[Klein]

1 minute ago, airplane said:

ANTI is still bigger as an overall era based on singles + album sales + streams but i hope typing all of that out was worth it  

 

Get some rest

If you want to consider the entire era you might as well want to consider the tour. 

[Solaria]

1 minute ago, Klein said:

Serious question, why are you camping in this thread if it annoys you so much? 

 

Like, if you don't want to see numbers discussed, why entering a "most successful?" thread in the first place? 

I won't leave this thread alone until Swifties sign a document where they agree Music is bigger than folklore. I want them on the record saying it because it's a factual truth and I can't sleep at night before they admit to it. So we're gonna be here for a while!

[Raspberries]

1 minute ago, Love Again said:

I won't leave this thread alone until Swifties sign a document where they agree Music is bigger than folklore. I want them on the record saying it because it's a factual truth and I can't sleep at night before they admit to it. So we're gonna be here for a while!

So I take it you didn't use my link a page or two back to find a good therapist?

[airplane]

4 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

Singles are already included in album equivalent units, so no. And in a couple months max, folklore will have more streams than anti anyway seeing as how it's getting close to 4 times more daily streams 

Those album equivalents per chartmasters do not coincide with folklore’s worldwide certifications so unless you can break it down and demonstrate how folklore is at 11M units per chartmasters, nobody is believing it. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by airplane

[Solaria]

1 minute ago, Raspberries said:

So I take it you didn't use my link a page or two back to find a good therapist?

My therapist told me to not listen to Swifties because she has a lot of them coming in her office every week. I'm so glad she was on my side, she understands me

[Klein]

3 minutes ago, Love Again said:

I won't leave this thread alone until Swifties sign a document where they agree Music is bigger than folklore. I want them on the record saying it because it's a factual truth and I can't sleep at night before they admit to it. So we're gonna be here for a while!

On 7/26/2023 at 6:47 PM, Klein said:

Yes, Music is above the other two. According to CM:

 

Music - 13.963M

folklore - 10.849M

ANTI - 10.597M

There you go, I hope you have a good sleep tonight.

[airplane]

4 minutes ago, Klein said:

If you want to consider the entire era you might as well want to consider the tour. 

folklore had a tour? 

[By the Water]

1 minute ago, Love Again said:

But ANTI was a much bigger moment and much more documented and was a triumph in Rihanna's career. Folklore, yknow she's a cute girl but put her next to Rihanna's gorgeous moment yknow gorgeous devours CUTE!

 

What moment? Her delaying the album for months? That forgettable VMAs performance? The Empti tour? Or when she didn't even bother to give one of its singles a music video because of how little she cared about the album?

 

[The Music Industry]

1 minute ago, airplane said:

Those album equivalents per chartmasters do not coincide with folklore’s worldwide certifications

It's almost as if we keep telling you that certifications are outdated and only present in a fraction of the world...? 

[elincomprendid]

20 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said:

The way some Rihanna fans are fighting against the idea of Folklore being bigger like their lives depends on it (outdated certifications and all) because they know Folklore being bigger than Anti means that Taylor ended up with 8 albums bigger than Anti 

9 albums*, cause Midnigjts up there already too 

[Klein]

Just now, airplane said:

folklore had a tour? 

15% of The Eras Tour is dedicated to touring folklore. You can take 15% of The Eras Tour's success and compare it to ANTI world tour.