Taylor charts 11 albums on BB200; first woman to do so

[Buffy]

43 minutes ago, punisher said:

Sky Ferreira next!

 

41 minutes ago, Katamari said:

She would have to actually release music for that to happen 

[sciencemagic]

Not her charting her whole discography (poor holiday collection)  

(and not counting original Fearless and Red, the GP said YES to the re-records)

Truly the biggest artist of our time 

Edited July 17, 2023 by sciencemagic

[ALA]

Speak Now OG still top 100 is particularly insane

[Buffy]

She’s the only one making music that’s listenable and interesting. Colleges are offering classes on Taylor Swift. The other pop girls should sign up and take notes.

[Galah]

I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this take (even though I don’t mean it in a malicious way) but I kind of don’t understand how the TV and “stolen” versions can chart simultaneously to inflate records such as these? Deluxe versions of albums don’t chart separately from their parent records, and even reissues like Dua’s Moonlight Edition of Future Nostalgia simply benefited the original version of the album rather than debuting as a new entry.

 

It doesn’t really matter because I have no doubt Taylor would ultimately snatch this record when she did reach 11 traditional studio albums anyway, it just feels odd to see SN essentially counting twice for this record.

 

Regardless, congrats to her on this amazing feat.

[Into The Void]

33 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

You say this as if those girls are charting all 5, 6, 7, or 8 albums in their discogs. Most of them can barely chart 1 or 2, let alone 3+. Having 11 albums capable of charting doesn’t diminish Taylor’s achievement, if anything it bolsters it. Having so many albums dividing up fan interest yet still all outdoing other albums from other artists is a huge flex. 

no one is dismissing her achievements were all very aware how successful she is. her longevity and power is literally insane.

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Aurora said:

I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this take (even though I don’t mean it in a malicious way) but I kind of don’t understand how the TV and “stolen” versions can chart simultaneously to inflate records such as these? Deluxe versions of albums don’t chart separately from their parent records, and even reissues like Dua’s Moonlight Edition of Future Nostalgia simply benefited the original version of the album rather than debuting as a new entry.

 

It doesn’t really matter because I have no doubt Taylor would ultimately snatch this record when she did reach 11 traditional studio albums anyway, it just feels odd to see SN essentially counting twice for this record.

 

Regardless, congrats to her on this amazing feat.

For what it’s worth we would love the OG and TV albums to be combined for chart purposes. We’d lose 6 guaranteed additional #1 albums but we’d basically accelerate the race to Diamond status for all of these albums. In fact all of her first 6 albums would have like 15M US units alone at that point, and then people would complain it’s unfair to combine them for -that- reason. So it’s kind of a double edged sword with pros and cons to each  

 

TLDR:

 

same album charting separately = more #1 albums but lower overall units as they are being divided between 2 albums now

 

 same albums combined with rerecordings = less #1 albums but MUCH higher units overall in the long run

[cruelhprince]

it's about damn time people recognized debut is a classique

[Taylor fanboy]

8 minutes ago, Aurora said:

I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this take (even though I don’t mean it in a malicious way) but I kind of don’t understand how the TV and “stolen” versions can chart simultaneously to inflate records such as these? Deluxe versions of albums don’t chart separately from their parent records, and even reissues like Dua’s Moonlight Edition of Future Nostalgia simply benefited the original version of the album rather than debuting as a new entry.

 

It doesn’t really matter because I have no doubt Taylor would ultimately snatch this record when she did reach 11 traditional studio albums anyway, it just feels odd to see SN essentially counting twice for this record.

 

Regardless, congrats to her on this amazing feat.

I would love them combined but it’s BB rules.

[Taylor fanboy]

3 minutes ago, cruelhprince said:

it's about damn time people recognized debut is a classique

Picture To Burn being performed would likely increase it next week!

[Galah]

1 minute ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

For what it’s worth we would love the OG and TV albums to be combined for chart purposes. We’d lose 6 guaranteed additional #1 albums but we’d basically accelerate the race to Diamond status for all of these albums. In fact all of her first 6 albums would have like 15M US units alone at that point, and then people would complain it’s unfair to combine them for -that- reason. So it’s kind of a double edged sword with pros and cons to each  

 

TLDR:

 

same album charting separately = more #1 albums but lower overall units as they are being divided between 2 albums now

 

 same albums combined with rerecordings = less #1 albums but MUCH higher units overall in the long run

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense actually. There has to be some standardisation regarding these re-recordings when it comes to accolades, certifications, chart positions etc. If the former two are to be separated, so should the latter. Good point. Thanks for explaining.

[Badgalbriel]

11 minutes ago, Aurora said:

I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this take (even though I don’t mean it in a malicious way) but I kind of don’t understand how the TV and “stolen” versions can chart simultaneously to inflate records such as these? Deluxe versions of albums don’t chart separately from their parent records, and even reissues like Dua’s Moonlight Edition of Future Nostalgia simply benefited the original version of the album rather than debuting as a new entry.

 

It doesn’t really matter because I have no doubt Taylor would ultimately snatch this record when she did reach 11 traditional studio albums anyway, it just feels odd to see SN essentially counting twice for this record.

 

Regardless, congrats to her on this amazing feat.

This is not a deluxe and it's not a re-issue. It's a different album. They even have different names. 

[PoisonedIvy]

7 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

This is not a deluxe and it's not a re-issue. It's a different album. They even have different names. 

Well so do Midnights 3AM Edition and the Til Dawn Edition  so there are 2 additional #1’s for Taylor’s catalogue alone  

 

(jk ofc lol)

Edited July 17, 2023 by WeFoundTrouble

[Cruel Summer]

21 minutes ago, Aurora said:

I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this take (even though I don’t mean it in a malicious way) but I kind of don’t understand how the TV and “stolen” versions can chart simultaneously to inflate records such as these? Deluxe versions of albums don’t chart separately from their parent records, and even reissues like Dua’s Moonlight Edition of Future Nostalgia simply benefited the original version of the album rather than debuting as a new entry.

 

It doesn’t really matter because I have no doubt Taylor would ultimately snatch this record when she did reach 11 traditional studio albums anyway, it just feels odd to see SN essentially counting twice for this record.

 

Regardless, congrats to her on this amazing feat.

While a couple people have mentioned why many Swifties would also prefer them to be combined, I’d like to offer a little clarity on why they aren’t, based on what I understand about Billboard and this situation.

 

While the songs are the same and the performer is the same, the new recordings are completely distinct entities - and not just because all the instruments and vocals have been re-done. Legally speaking, the new recordings are actually treated like covers of the original songs, so it’s almost as if she’s covering an album of someone else’s songs - that’s a big part of why they chart separately. The original recordings continue to exist as recordings under the Big Machine label, with master recordings owned by Shamrock Capital. The new recordings will have new and entirely separate master recordings created under Republic Records and owned by Taylor herself. It’s worth noting that the only elements of the originals that are reused are intangible elements, like lyrics and melodies and chord progressions - all the vocals and instrumentation that make those things into the tangible tracks and sounds are brand new.

 

I believe that in order for two music compositions to chart together on Billboard charts, certain basic elements of the recording must remain intact. Remixes chart together with original tracks because they reuse vocals and production from the original song, including files and stems that were used to create that original song. An entirely new recording is actually a lot like a live album. We can look to Taylor’s own album Folklore for a case study that shows us how Billboard treats these things. Some editions of Folklore contain a second disc of live material, titled Folklore: The Long Pond Studio Sessions. This is essentially just a live album with one live recording of every single track on Folklore. They chart all together simply as Folklore on the Billboard 200. But this year, for Record Store Day, she released a vinyl edition of Folklore LPSS that was just the live recordings, without the studio version attached, and for the first and only time, Folklore LPSS charted as a completely distinct entity from Folklore, because none of the songs on that live-only version contained any elements of the studio recordings, despite being the same songs. The same thing happened a little earlier this year - she released an EP that was a set of eight live songs from a concert she did in support of her album Lover. Just like Folklore LPSS, since the EP was only those live versions, it charted separately.

[elincomprendid]

2 hours ago, The Music Industry said:

Mind you she's occupying 10% of the entire top 100

With most of those in the higher range cause its 40% of the top 10 and 30% of top 20

Maybe girlies should be thankful she doesn't release as much as haters claim she does 
 

[elincomprendid]

1 hour ago, Insanity said:

of current active pop girls Taylor is the only one with enough albums for 11 to chart lol

Based on this statement you'd think other girls are charting at least 3 albums but...

Female artists wth multiple albums on the Billboard 200 last week

Taylor - 10/10
SZA - 2/2 (#6 & #54)
Lana Del Rey - 2/9 (#48 & #184)
Melanie Martinez - 2/2 (#81 & #174)
Billie Eilish - 2/2* (#150 & #170)

No other female artist have multiple projects charting, has no other female artist ever released 3 or more albums?

[Klein]

The smashery of it all. 

[Axelios]

1 hour ago, Aurora said:

I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this take (even though I don’t mean it in a malicious way) but I kind of don’t understand how the TV and “stolen” versions can chart simultaneously to inflate records such as these? Deluxe versions of albums don’t chart separately from their parent records, and even reissues like Dua’s Moonlight Edition of Future Nostalgia simply benefited the original version of the album rather than debuting as a new entry.

 

It doesn’t really matter because I have no doubt Taylor would ultimately snatch this record when she did reach 11 traditional studio albums anyway, it just feels odd to see SN essentially counting twice for this record.

 

Regardless, congrats to her on this amazing feat.

I would have preferred if they were combined. Her old albums are getting chart runs cut short because of the TVs and it is also slowing down their certifications.

[Galah]

55 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

While a couple people have mentioned why many Swifties would also prefer them to be combined, I’d like to offer a little clarity on why they aren’t, based on what I understand about Billboard and this situation.

 

While the songs are the same and the performer is the same, the new recordings are completely distinct entities - and not just because all the instruments and vocals have been re-done. Legally speaking, the new recordings are actually treated like covers of the original songs, so it’s almost as if she’s covering an album of someone else’s songs - that’s a big part of why they chart separately. The original recordings continue to exist as recordings under the Big Machine label, with master recordings owned by Shamrock Capital. The new recordings will have new and entirely separate master recordings created under Republic Records and owned by Taylor herself. It’s worth noting that the only elements of the originals that are reused are intangible elements, like lyrics and melodies and chord progressions - all the vocals and instrumentation that make those things into the tangible tracks and sounds are brand new.

 

I believe that in order for two music compositions to chart together on Billboard charts, certain basic elements of the recording must remain intact. Remixes chart together with original tracks because they reuse vocals and production from the original song, including files and stems that were used to create that original song. An entirely new recording is actually a lot like a live album. We can look to Taylor’s own album Folklore for a case study that shows us how Billboard treats these things. Some editions of Folklore contain a second disc of live material, titled Folklore: The Long Pond Studio Sessions. This is essentially just a live album with one live recording of every single track on Folklore. They chart all together simply as Folklore on the Billboard 200. But this year, for Record Store Day, she released a vinyl edition of Folklore LPSS that was just the live recordings, without the studio version attached, and for the first and only time, Folklore LPSS charted as a completely distinct entity from Folklore, because none of the songs on that live-only version contained any elements of the studio recordings, despite being the same songs. The same thing happened a little earlier this year - she released an EP that was a set of eight live songs from a concert she did in support of her album Lover. Just like Folklore LPSS, since the EP was only those live versions, it charted separately.

It’s all very interesting from a technical standpoint, and it does make it much clearer, at least in a legal sense, especially the discrepancy between the LPSS-only vinyl of the album and the original two-disc compilation of sorts. Thanks!

[Hunter_13]

She's so insane 

[Michael196]

She just extended her record for most charting albums in the top 25 from 7 to 8 

[1989]

Debut jumping like that, we love to see it.