Democrats defend apartheid, force Rep. Jayapal to walkback claim Israel is racist

[Communion]

 

[BlueTimberwolf]

Tragic, but not surprising. Also, screw Ro Khanna

[loveisdead9582]

How did I know that it was you posting this? Yeah, Israel can try to work religion into their discrimination but bigotry is bigotry. I don’t support what they do to other peoples/cultures.
 

You acting as though every single dem was in opposition to this statement is just indicative of how diametrically opposed to virtually any opinion that doesn’t meet your own incredibly anti USA opinions you have. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by loveisdead9582

[Communion]

1 minute ago, loveisdead9582 said:

You acting as though every single dem was in opposition to this statement 

What % of House Democrats are you claiming will come out and defend Jayapal?

[loveisdead9582]

26 minutes ago, Communion said:

What % of House Democrats are you claiming will come out and defend Jayapal?

I’m not claiming anything and I never even once implied I was. 

[Communion]

8 minutes ago, loveisdead9582 said:

I’m not claiming anything and I never even once implied I was. 

Sis, don't play word games. It's childish. You said I was "acting" that something meant something else. When the Democratic leadership do something, it represents their party. Unless you can show that most House Dems don't agree with House leadership, your comment doesn't make sense. No one is acting any way - I'm observing reality. 

 

It's giving "watched too much CNN" to see there be single-digit voices of dissent, those voices being silenced by their leadership while their party remains silent, and your main concern to be "okay let's call that out but make sure we emphasize some Dems are the good guys!".  

[loveisdead9582]

12 minutes ago, Communion said:

Sis, don't play word games. It's childish. You said I was "acting" that something meant something else. When the Democratic leadership do something, it represents their party. Unless you can show that most House Dems don't agree with House leadership, your comment doesn't make sense. No one is acting any way - I'm observing reality. 

 

It's giving "watched too much CNN" to see there be single-digit voices of dissent, those voices being silenced by their leadership while their party remains silent, and your main concern to be "okay let's call that out but make sure we emphasize some Dems are the good guys!".  

Once again, you are diametrically opposed to any viewpoint other than your own. No point in arguing with someone who can’t see the forest for the trees. Also, I don’t watch CNN. It’s still skewed a certain way and doesn’t present a full story. 
 

Perhaps “acting” was the wrong word. Allow me to rectify that now: you are claiming that the entire Democratic Party acts a certain way. Call the assholes out! Say their ******* names! I’m all for calling out those who do some shady/shitty things. Word games indeed. 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

Israel politics are in a crisis and are the most extreme they have ever been, they are unpredictable to say the least.

If the US officially disapproves of Israel and relations die off the US will basically have no official presence and intelligence operating officially within the middle east.

Doing so will also make it tens of times more likely Israel will cease to be a democratic state and things WILL get a lot worse for everyone involved - as the US has always helped Israel even within its own politics.

 

The reason US is so adamant regarding Israel-US relations even as most Americans stop supporting Israel is because the US literally funded and built Israel and continues to do so to this day - stopping that won't only be a "waste" of efforts time and money, but will also crack holes in the way US wants to perceived to the world as the leader of the democratic free world spreading the message across the globe - it goes against their ingrained instinct of supporting democratic progress in the middle east and in as much as the world as they can and will mean the entire middle east will turn anti US.

 

The MAIN thing though:

is how far deep Israel-US military complex bond goes, shared intelligence, and shared infrastructures and technologies and technological cooperation mean they are doing this for terms they would describe as "national security" and not because they believe they are doing what is morally right necessary - and they are most likely right that keeping US-Israel relations the same is the best for both sides involved, just most likely based on things we would never have access to or know (though plenty is known ofc) even if most of you would like it be as simple as representatives not supporting them - it's not.

But it is simple as 4 things - money-intel-technology-global stability 

 

Finally, US officially not supporting Israel will be such an ontological shock to Israel and its citizens it will likely lead to very dramatic outcomes that the US will be partly blamed for not unsimilar to the withdrawal of the US from Afghanistan in 2020.

 

Obviously, there's also the fact most Americans are still Christian and will not be happy about not being able to visit "the holy land" - there could also be physical significance to the land of Israel that the US is aware of and thus would do anything in their power to remain welcomed in it, I'm not religious but it's not far fetched to think even if it's simply unexplained phenomenon that used to be contrived as religious beings and gods but are actually something else.

 

I believe it's literally more likely Israel would be destroyed in a nuclear warezone than the US not supporting them - just the recent very light remarks from Biden administrative criticizing current politics in Israel caused a MASSIVE storm in Israel.

[ClashAndBurn]

10 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Israel politics are in a crisis and are the most extreme they have ever been, they are unpredictable to say the least.

If the US officially disapproves of Israel and relations die off the US will basically have no official presence and intelligence operating officially within the middle east.

Doing so will also make it tens of times more likely Israel will cease to be a democratic state and things WILL get a lot worse for everyone involved - as the US has always helped Israel even within its own politics.

 

The reason US is so adamant regarding Israel-US relations even as most Americans stop supporting Israel is because the US literally funded and built Israel and continues to do so to this day - stopping that won't only be a "waste" of efforts time and money, but will also crack holes in the way US wants to perceived to the world as the leader of the democratic free world spreading the message across the globe - it goes against their ingrained instinct of supporting democratic progress in the middle east and in as much as the world as they can and will mean the entire middle east will turn anti US.

 

The MAIN thing though:

is how far deep Israel-US military complex bond goes, shared intelligence, and shared infrastructures and technologies and technological cooperation mean they are doing this for terms they would describe as "national security" and not because they believe they are doing what is morally right necessary - and they are most likely right that keeping US-Israel relations the same is the best for both sides involved, just most likely based on things we would never have access to or know (though plenty is known ofc) even if most of you would like it be as simple as representatives not supporting them - it's not.

But it is simple as 4 things - money-intel-technology-global stability 

 

Finally, US officially not supporting Israel will be such an ontological shock to Israel and its citizens it will likely lead to very dramatic outcomes that the US will be partly blamed for not unsimilar to the withdrawal of the US from Afghanistan in 2020.

 

Obviously, there's also the fact most Americans are still Christian and will not be happy about not being able to visit "the holy land" - there could also be physical significance to the land of Israel that the US is aware of and thus would do anything in their power to remain welcomed in it, I'm not religious but it's not far fetched to think even if it's simply unexplained phenomenon that used to be contrived as religious beings and gods but are actually something else.

 

I believe it's literally more likely Israel would be destroyed in a nuclear warezone than the US not supporting them - just the recent very light remarks from Biden administrative criticizing current politics in Israel caused a MASSIVE storm in Israel.

Israel is a U.S. military base disguised as a country. It makes sense to consider it an apartheid state considering that it’s entire ability to exist hinges on a country that was also legally an apartheid state for the vast majority of its existence (and is only just barely not one any longer given how many black people routinely get slaughtered by American police and usually nothing of consequence happens).

[Letemtalk]

The US were one of the last to keep supporting South Africa in the apartheid era.

 

In 1963, the UN voted for an oil embargo to force South Africa to abandon apartheid. This was in a time when black South Africans were literally being whipped into line, 850,000 whippings in the previous decade.

 

The countries that voted against the embargo were:

 

The United States and Great Britain - the two largest investors in South Africa.
France, the third largest investor.
Plus Spain and Portugal who still had colonies in Africa.

 

History repeats and the Democrats don't care about human rights, Biden just wants an AIPAC endorsement.