California Dems Block Bill That Makes Child Trafficking a Serious Felony

[Sergi91]

California lawmakers in the Assembly Public Safety Committee on Tuesday blocked a measure that would have classified human trafficking of a minor as a serious felony under state law, an effort that attempted to keep repeat offenders behind bars and make them ineligible to be released from prison early. The measure was halfway through the state's legislative process, having cleared the State Senate unanimously with broad, bipartisan support. None of the six Democrats on the Assembly Public Safety Committee were willing to cast a vote on the measure Tuesday. Republican Assemblymen Juan Alanis and Tom Lackey were the bill's only yes votes. Following the vote, those in the audience could be heard yelling "You're horrible!" and "You should be ashamed of yourselves!" to the committee members. Human trafficking victims embraced and sobbed in front of the dais.

 

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This is not IT   What were those Dems in the assembly thinking?  

[Bears01]

Democrats in deep blue states are notably Terrible on policy (New York and Delaware join California in that regard, along with Colorado) or are just deeply entrenched in corruption (hello New Jersey and Illinois) 

 

Its swing state Democrats who have to fight for their political lives who are just genuinely better at this whole “politics” thing (at the state level at least, congress is another story) 

[Artist]

12 minutes ago, Bears01 said:

Democrats in deep blue states are notably Terrible on policy (New York and Delaware join California in that regard, along with Colorado) or are just deeply entrenched in corruption (hello New Jersey and Illinois) 

 

Its swing state Democrats who have to fight for their political lives who are just genuinely better at this whole “politics” thing (at the state level at least, congress is another story) 

This is valid, but we truly need a humanity test for people who serve in public service positions. Regardless of political affiliation, issues surround humans rights and freedom should be non-negotiable. It's also important to note that most of these decisions are influenced by donors. After assuming office, a politician's wealth growth should be regulated.

[Bears01]

15 minutes ago, Artist said:

This is valid, but we truly need a humanity test for people who serve in public service positions. Regardless of political affiliation, issues surround humans rights and freedom should be non-negotiable. It's also important to note that most of these decisions are influenced by donors. After assuming office, a politician's wealth growth should be regulated.

I mean, I don’t disagree

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I-

[Attitude]

We know why.

[Domination]

I know nothing about this but I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that this is connected to some far right conspiracy. Conservatives are kind of having a moment with this right now.

 

 

Edited July 13, 2023 by Domination

[Communion]

44 minutes ago, Domination said:

I know nothing about this but I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that this is connected to some far right conspiracy. Conservatives are kind of having a moment with this right now.

 

 

Apparently the bill's language is expansive and sweeping and could result in... *checks notes* those who were trafficked themselves also being up for life in prison under it making the crime part of California's 3 strikes law. 

 

It's clear the division is no different than laws regarding prostitution or things like those who accidentally pass on diseases like hiv/aids and the issue is not a rejection of such things being criminal but wanting the criminal legislation to be specific and nuanced instead of sweeping. 

 

Though it's funny to see the most partisan Biden democrats who yell "vote blue no matter who" be tricked by conservatives into becoming reactionaries and scream about "progressive failures" (ironically when many of California's criminal justice policies are right wing).

[Communion]

@Sergi91 Supporting conservative framing comes off as being so weak-minded that you would have been just as easily convinced into supporting locking Japanese Californians up in interment camps or kicking gay people suffering from what would have been later discovered as AIDs out of hospitals in the name of public safety:

 

 

It's just so wild to me that progressive politics is framed as moral grandstanding or virtue signaling yet so often liberals and conservatives come together on crime bills like these that care little for the actual implementation or impact of said harsher sentence. And that the political wins gained from just being more hardline on unpopular crimes is what the politicians actually want.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Communion

[Onion Girl]

Not sure if this is totally relevant, but the other day I was listening to an episode of a podcast that talked about human trafficking that I found interesting. 

 

 

[Sergi91]

30 minutes ago, Communion said:

@Sergi91 Supporting conservative framing comes off as being so weak-minded that you would have been just as easily convinced into supporting locking Japanese Californians up in interment camps or kicking gay people suffering from what would have been later discovered as AIDs out of hospitals in the name of public safety:

I’m not surprised at your usual bait response. 

[Communion]

1 minute ago, Sergi91 said:

I’m not surprised at your usual bait response. 

Your thread title is literally pulled from The Gateway Pundit. 

 

Chronically uncritical. 

[Bears01]

8 minutes ago, Communion said:

Your thread title is literally pulled from The Gateway Pundit. 

 

Chronically uncritical. 

Yikes….I regret engaging with the OP if they used the gateway pundit 

[Sergi91]

9 minutes ago, Communion said:

Your thread title is literally pulled from The Gateway Pundit. 

 

Chronically uncritical. 

I don’t have to give you any explanation for the way the thread is titled. If you’re looking for a fight go bait someone else. 

[Sergi91]

1 minute ago, Bears01 said:

Yikes….I regret engaging with the OP if they used the gateway pundit 

I was not aware of that website. I literally used yahoo as a source. My god. 

[XAMJ]

There has to be a reason, but the KKK party is having a field day with this

[Communion]

19 minutes ago, Sergi91 said:

go bait someone else. 

No one is "baiting" you. You're being given historical comparisons to show how the kind of reactionary fear-mongering that conservatives push seems reasonable in the moment only to then be revealed by the lessons of time to be harrowing, and that calls and concerns for public safety and let alone "think of the children!!" are used to push sweeping right-wing policy.

 

This is not even just stuck in the past given there's similar fear-mongering when things like bills are pushed in California to harshen the punishment for passing along AIDs with language that criminalizes those who have done so accidentally or without knowing (let alone even if things like sex workers raped by John's) and then the typical conservative/liberal reaction when said legislation is blocked is "WHACKY CALIFORNIA WANTS TO MAKE IT LEGAL TO INFECT PEOPLE WITH AIDS!!!".

 

This formula is copy/pasted to any topic imaginable. Reactionary politicians trying to gain political points with hard-on-crime stances on sex crimes without any care for the impact on sex workers, hard-on-crime stances on drug dealing without any care for the impact on drug addicts, hard-on-crime stances over petty theft and property crime without any care for the impact on the homeless.

 

If legislation already exists where human trafficking can be upgraded to a major crime that counts as one of California's "three strikes", what crimes are then being missed for which this legislation would solve by making it so every instance of human trafficking counts as a three strike crime for all of those involved? 

 

Any LGBT person who buys into inherently right-wing narratives asks to be discriminated against. 

Edited July 14, 2023 by Communion

[Sergi91]

12 minutes ago, XAMJ said:

There has to be a reason, but the KKK party is having a field day with this

Yes. I’m sure Newsom and other Dem leadership will make sure this new bill gets passed. 

[Sannie]

14 hours ago, Communion said:

Apparently the bill's language is expansive and sweeping and could result in... *checks notes* those who were trafficked themselves also being up for life in prison under it making the crime part of California's 3 strikes law. 

 

It's clear the division is no different than laws regarding prostitution or things like those who accidentally pass on diseases like hiv/aids and the issue is not a rejection of such things being criminal but wanting the criminal legislation to be specific and nuanced instead of sweeping. 

 

Though it's funny to see the most partisan Biden democrats who yell "vote blue no matter who" be tricked by conservatives into becoming reactionaries and scream about "progressive failures" (ironically when many of California's criminal justice policies are right wing).

I knew there was more to this. This bill, like every other bill pushed by the GOP, is nothing but virtue signaling.

 

IDK why people do not look into these bills before getting offended.

[Aethereal]

23 hours ago, Attitude said:

We know why.

This comment is giving me deja vu.

 

OT: GROSS!