Ana Kasparian says she's afraid to talk to POC, calls gender-affirming care dangerous

[Sannie]

All of this stems from the whole "you are erasing women in favor trans women" narrative TERFs like to push, right? This woman went on a tirade about how medically inclusive language "erases" cisgender women.  

 

She tries to claim she is just trying to "point out how extremism looks to people who are not on the left," but I say, who the **** cares how it looks? If supporting trans people = extremism and "looks bad", then that is fine with me.

[Bloo]

 

 

I cannot believe she tweeted this.  Jesus Christ.  

[Communion]

Ana "accidentally" misgendered Benny when doing a segment about her quitting, which I thought could be an honest mistake, but this post from Cenk is... wow.

 

 

[Bloo]

25 minutes ago, Communion said:

Ana "accidentally" misgendered Benny when doing a segment about her quitting, which I thought could be an honest mistake, but this post from Cenk is... wow.

 

 

Classic conservative move to project your own flaws onto others. Imagine posting that tweet and having the audacity to call somebody else unhinged.

[wehan6]

the cenk tweet

 

they are OVER 

 

[Harrier]

I think Ana misgendering Benny is an honest mistake (one that quite a few hosts have done a few times) due to they fact that they all knew her pre-transition and her transition is fairly recent. However, like, this Cenk tweet is off the rails especially compared to Ana's relatively graceful statement. Unhinged. I hope there is pushback within the network 

[banterfly]

Ana was right though. Not sure why you are all quick at saying she's a transphobe? Gender affirming care is dangerous. Puberty blockers have long term side effects. Surgeries are irreversible. All for mental health- this is probably the only condition where a person goes through so much to appease mental health, and yet still with a high failure rate (30%) and no long term studies.

[banterfly]

TYT will survive because the majority of Americans, even democrats, are against gender affirming care. 

[banterfly]

On 7/6/2023 at 8:08 AM, Sannie said:

All of this stems from the whole "you are erasing women in favor trans women" narrative TERFs like to push, right? This woman went on a tirade about how medically inclusive language "erases" cisgender women.  

 

She tries to claim she is just trying to "point out how extremism looks to people who are not on the left," but I say, who the **** cares how it looks? If supporting trans people = extremism and "looks bad", then that is fine with me.

These are valid points though. Trans athletes in sports is one example.

 

Imagine being a biological woman and getting called "chest feeder", "pregnant people", etc. It's absolutely degrading. And then you have trans women pumping themselves with drugs so they can "lactate" to simulate "motherhood". You have to be a narcissist to be only thinking about yourself and not an infant who can ingest all the drugs that you pump into your body.

 

Most people, on either side, don't want to be called "cis". Just respect that.

[Communion]

21 hours ago, banterfly said:

And then you have trans women pumping themselves with drugs so they can "lactate"

I don't think you understand human anatomy. All humans have a pineal gland. All humans have lobules and ducts in their breasts. Lactation is literally just the result of the pineal gland increasing - through the hormonal impact of pregnancy - increased levels of prolactin that then trigger the production of milk within the breasts. These hormonal levels often don't always spike and thus why many cis women find themselves not able to produce substantial amounts of breast milk. 

 

Suggesting most people spend their waking nights thinking of trans women lactating kind of outs you as terminally online as Ana herself. Sad!

 

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This whole saga has been..

 

[Bloo]

On 7/8/2023 at 5:46 AM, banterfly said:

TYT will survive because the majority of Americans, even democrats, are against gender affirming care. 

Once again, you show you don’t know what you’re talking about. The majority of Americans still oppose bills aiming to ban gender affirming care for minors despite the years of recent propaganda against the trans community.

 

[Harrier]

Im sorry but the dredging up the very old out of context clip with Ana talking about Hasan's success in their usual half jokey/casual way is just ridiculus. There are plenty of normal critiques to make, but then people just do bullshit that makes me want to defend them. Like the idea that this 2 year old clip has even one iota to do with this trans stuff in 2023 is completely absurd - you think shes been harbouring this secret success resentment for 5 billion years and now finally has decided to make money by what... pissing off half her own audience?? 

 

All these people do is prove evrything Ana says about the left correct. The absolute drive and lust for hyperbolic, ridiculous character assasination. It is very easy to see why Cenk and Ana are acting so defensive and stubborn against the fair critiques when so much of what is hurled at them is so stupid. On a human level, I get it

[Communion]

3 minutes ago, Harrier said:

The absolute drive and lust for hyperbolic, ridiculous character assasination.

Are you describing what Ana did to Lance of The Serfs?

 

 

[Bloo]

4 hours ago, Harrier said:

All these people do is prove evrything Ana says about the left correct. The absolute drive and lust for hyperbolic, ridiculous character assasination. It is very easy to see why Cenk and Ana are acting so defensive and stubborn against the fair critiques when so much of what is hurled at them is so stupid. On a human level, I get it

The lunacy of Ana’s takes are seen if you take a second to think about how much (deserved) hatred and vitriol right wingers also receive. The Internet is a mean place. Pretending it’s a uniquely left wing problem is childish and shows you are chronically online. 
 

The fact Ana can go on a podcast and say she is afraid to speak to people who are also not White is peak commentary of someone who desperately needs to walk outside. There are other issues to be had with Ana’s commentary related to abject transphobia, copaganda, anti-poverty rhetoric, and the blatant bend towards class reductionism. But, the fact she thinks online meanies is just a left-wing this is just sad. 
 

She’s also a political commentator. People challenging her rhetoric is literally part of the job. She has literal real world influence. So, of course, she is going to be challenged on her views. Thinking it a just a left wing thing is disingenuous and unserious. Off the top of my head, Tomi Lahren was fired from The Blaze for not being anti-abortion. 

[Sannie]

On 7/8/2023 at 6:51 AM, banterfly said:

These are valid points though. Trans athletes in sports is one example.

 

Imagine being a biological woman and getting called "chest feeder", "pregnant people", etc. It's absolutely degrading. And then you have trans women pumping themselves with drugs so they can "lactate" to simulate "motherhood". You have to be a narcissist to be only thinking about yourself and not an infant who can ingest all the drugs that you pump into your body.

 

Most people, on either side, don't want to be called "cis". Just respect that.

No one outside of Twitter is legitimately calling cis women "chest feeders", and terms like "pregnant person" are only being used in a medical setting because, surprise, trans men exist and can get pregnant. And even then, majority of medical settings are not even using this terminology. Congrats, you are falling for right-wing propaganda by thinking this is an actual issue in the real world.

 

Additionally, a trans woman doing whatever they want with their body concerns you about 0% and in no way takes away from cisgender women. If your gender identity is so fragile that a complete stranger doing what they want with their own bodies puts it at risk, that is a you problem and not a problem with transgender. Do not even try to pretend like you think this way because "protect the baby" because that is just bullshit. A trans woman who wants to be a mother is not putting their child at risk for their own amusement. 

 

Most people on the other side do not even understand what 'cis' means. They do not like the term because they use 'trans' as an insult. 'Cis' is literally just a descriptor, an adjective, the opposite of trans.

 

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Talking about Americans feel about gender-affirming care is irrelevant considering the majority of Americans do not know what GA care is or they believe in the bullshit propaganda that is being pushed by the right. If Americans were educated on the topic, lol, the vast majority would not care and/or would just flat-out support it. As it stands, most people just do not care; they believe in minding your own business.