bad guy Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Final nail in the coffin for BTS and hip/hop coming back to dominate. Nature is healing.
Isaiah Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, trubleu said: No more fifty million versions from Taylor gaming the system. Hip hop will surely go back to #1 webstore singles haven't been the reason hip hop isnt at the top, be serious like literally 0 songs in this week's top 10 are there because of webstore sales, webstore sales are just a fraudy-gimmick for a 1 week peak but they are far from the reason hip hop is underperforming.
DamianSolo Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 It's just another fine example of how incredibly flawed and pointless it all is. There are too many ways to consume music and a large portion of it isn't even tracked; if they all were, the charts would look incredibly different. 2
Letemtalk Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Mastamaind said: Disagree. That is a music industry problem. If the industry innovated with a new physical format reflecting current technology like a USB flash drive with bluetooth capabilities perhaps, I think people would listen to music on that. Still, people do listen to music on CD and vinyl now. Vinyl sales numbers have been on a steady rise for years. I think labels have been overwhelmed by all the technology changes in the latest years, but they need to get their sh*t together and act assertively. For example, an idea, teaming up with audio manufacturers and making a little OS that can make vinyl and CD players connect to your Spotify account so your plays count to your wrapped, could be really cool and potentially drive up music consumption. Labels and Spotify could make an agreement that for ad-supported accounts, you wouldn't get ads if the streams come from a CD/vinyl or this hypothetical bluetooth flash drive. Apple Music (and other platforms) could even jump in for this option since this would increase traffic for the music and could motivate people to get premium accounts. It's a win-win situation. They really should brighten up and start moving. The vast majority of physical sales are going to people collecting physical singles and albums, new releases of old albums and new album covers. At least half of the vinyl albums are sold to people that don't own a record player. I'd much rather purchase a high quality digital download than buy a piece of plastic that required obsolete technology to use. My last music purchase was Desire, I Want to Turn Into You in FLAC format from Bandcamp. But even if I purchased it from the artists store, it would still represent genuine music consumption, while a vinyl album usually means someone is adding a physical item to their collection and will probably never play it. But Billboard would prefer to count people collecting plastic, than actual music consumption. Maybe we do need a new physical format, but here are a lot of technical issues. Record labels would insist on complex encryption and copyright protection, while many consumers would be suspicious that the encryption would make their music more difficult to listen to on all of their devices. Do we need a new port on our devices? Does this new format need a battery? It would make more sense to put a cap on artist store sales - you can only claim X direct digital or physical sales in the first week and a similar cap for long term sales. This would maintain a source of revenue for smaller artists while preventing massive distortion of the charts from bulk buying by stans. Of course that is not the role of Billboard, they are not there to count music consumption or help smaller artists. They are there to increase industry profits, which means radio stations and record labels, and the record labels don't care if people are actually listening to the music as long as they are paying.
JustHoran Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 BTS fans are going to have a meltdown, aren't they?
punisher Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 I think a good idea would be that you can buy songs/albums on spotify, but the song/album would feature a different cover art. I’d find that really cool.
KKCuteCat Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 After they let those shitty band have like 5 #1? Come on BB, nothing can save your reputation now, you let the fraud happened for years
dirrtydiana Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: How is radio "a dying platform" when the most listened song on the radio this past week had 102.82 MILLION audience in the US and the most listened song on Spotify in the past week had 10.5 million streams? (also in the US). Even if radio is miscalculated by a bunch, it's not miscalculated to be 10 times bigger. Y'all need to understand that just because YOU don't personally consume radio, A LOT of people do what they’re arguing is that radio is mostly not something you chose to consume unlike streaming where you select the song you want to consume it’s highly corrupt and manipulated. they sell the idea that people call in to request those songs but they just play the top 10 or whatever labels pay them to. and those 100M “listeners” are mostly not consuming. They have it on as background noise. same can be said for streaming but at least you have the power to pick your background noise aaand you’re not being forced to listen to ads. think of it as cable. who but boomers willingly pay for a service that’s at least 1/3 unskipable ads? Edited July 1, 2023 by dirrtydiana 1
TouchinFree Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Taylor and the kpop groups are going to STRUGGLE after this rule. Olivia about to get justice though. 3
WildHeart Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, TouchinFree said: Taylor going to STRUGGLE after this rule. It will be very fun to watch some of you when her next lead single effortlessly debuts at #1 or Cruel Summer challenges #1 soon
Klein Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, TouchinFree said: Taylor and the kpop groups are going to STRUGGLE after this rule. Olivia about to get justice though. Didn't Midnights get the entire top 10 on Billboard with just streams?
Sexyzinger Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 11:29 PM, Ms. Togekiss said: the garbz and BTS are over omg nicki about to go from #7-#40 to #30-OUT As if they won’t realign their strategies based on this…pls.
Steve Johnson Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Artistofthedecade said: It will be very fun to watch some of you when her next lead single effortlessly debuts at #1 or Cruel Summer challenges #1 soon Seriously, I can’t wait for TS11. OTHs really need another humbling.
Steve Johnson Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, TouchinFree said: Taylor and the kpop groups are going to STRUGGLE after this rule. Olivia about to get justice though. Midnights debuted 10 top 10 songs on hot 100 with just streams. Troll better next time.
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 11:33 PM, Kylizzle said: Pretty much every ATRL fav is over after this including my own Yea lol but I’m over charts now a days don’t even know most of top 10
fridayteenage Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Klein said: Didn't Midnights get the entire top 10 on Billboard with just streams? didn't you know spotify and apple music are owned by taylorswift.com?
CatButtFace Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Taylor won't struggle the way some are imagining/hoping she will after the rule change, she's one of the few artists with an insane stanbase that ALSO has mass GP appeal so she'll be fine in the long run. However the 'artist website exclusive remix' trick won't work anymore - for anyone - so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out considering her team def employed those tactics. I'm surprised BB didn't go for a 2-for-1 deal and say that only the first 'remix' counts (or none bc lbr we know why they're being pumped out and it's not for any kind of artistic merit). Mass streaming is a dead duck as is playing vids on youtube 24/7. Stans be mad about radio counting because it's a factor they have no control over 17 hours ago, unclefloprry said: wao, album chart next please Yes this desperately needs addressing, when you've got artist like Taylor (and I'm not a hater I like her music and listen to it regularly, she's just an especially egregious example with Midnights) can issue two dozen versions of the same album, it inflates the sales by a ridiculous amount. All this **** is good for bragging rights, sure, but harder to get a gauge over how stuff's going over with the general public rather than just your fanbase who are advising people to go hungry and telling them where the nearest foodbanks are in order to buy more copies of your fav's newest song. Not to mention the insane amount of plastic waste and carbon emissions involved in pressing so many CDs and vinyls that will never actually get, you know, played on something lol 1
Lactose_Milk Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 This is gonna affect TXT and Jonas Brothers collaboration lmao.
TrieLz Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, Lactose_Milk said: This is gonna affect TXT and Jonas Brothers collaboration lmao. So BTS will be the only Korean Boygroup to debut on BB hot 100 SKZ, SVT, EXO or maybe TXT etc will never have any entry on Hot 100
NEX Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 Took them waay too long to do this. Poor Enchanted TV tho. It could use some deserved help 1
Gaia Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 1:02 AM, dirrtydiana said: what they’re arguing is that radio is mostly not something you chose to consume unlike streaming where you select the song you want to consume it’s highly corrupt and manipulated. they sell the idea that people call in to request those songs but they just play the top 10 or whatever labels pay them to. and those 100M “listeners” are mostly not consuming. They have it on as background noise. same can be said for streaming but at least you have the power to pick your background noise aaand you’re not being forced to listen to ads. think of it as cable. who but boomers willingly pay for a service that’s at least 1/3 unskipable ads? Do people realize that you have the power to turn off the radio and change the station? If you keep a radio on all day chances are its because you actually like what's being played. It's the exact same as passive streaming. You pick the station/playlist you want and just leave it in the background.
CatButtFace Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 8:54 AM, fridayteenage said: no one should buy any products that are not necessary for survival then, since they create waste and emissions. hopefully you live like a hermit so you're not contributing to the problem you're melting down about. xoxo pretty much, yeah. no ethical consumption under capitalism doesn't mean we all shouldn't do our part <3
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