Sweden Quran burning sparks anger across Muslim world

[Mastamaind]

22 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Arabs never colonized North Africa or Europe lol. Thats conquest. The West economically and politically exploited… basically everybody. And still do.

Sorry to quote you again (if you feel animosity) but you're wrong.

 

What some (powerful and not that much) arabs are doing now is what the US did in 2003 in Irak but as social terror using Islam as a tool, it has achieved that gravity, for starters. "Illegally", specifying, since you're so obsessed with semantics.

Edited June 30, 2023 by Mastamaind

[KatyPrismSpirit]

10 minutes ago, Mastamaind said:

Sorry to quote you again (if you feel animosity) but you're wrong.

 

What some (powerful and not that much) arabs are doing now is what the US did in 2003 in Irak but as social terror using Islam as a tool, it has achieved that gravity, for starters. "Illegally", specifying, since you're so obsessed with semantics.

False. Lol are u serious? Millions of Iraqi citizens died in 2003-2008 but what arabs are doing now (literally where?) is the same. read a book. Like white zionists and the US arent commiting genocide on muslim lands as we speak in Palestine. 

[Mastamaind]

Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said:

False. Lol are u serious? Millions of Iraqi citizens died in 2003-2008 but what arabs are doing now (literally where?) is the same. read a book. Like white zionists and the US arent commiting genocide on muslim lands as we speak in Palestine. 

Iran for starters?

 

But ok drag me, I'm busy, wanna have a full fledged discussion? Take the Iran protests seriously and I'll do if you want to 

 

Btw, have you ever lost your plastic hijab?

[A.R.L]

53 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

What are you talking about? Muslims dont want to implement Islam in Europe💀💀. This is an obnoxious right wing politician burning their holy book because he hates muslims. There is no muslim who wants to implement Islam in European law… Thats literally the most basic islamophobic propaganda ever… even worse than the previous user not being able to differentiate the current state of middle east and Islam. Lolz.

 

I dont see any muslims in Europe burning pride flags in front of governmental buildings. That isn’t happening on a big scale. Like I said liberals and muslims dont accept each other because their world views are inherently contradictory. Just leave each other be and remain polite. Disagreeing isnt a valid excuse to burn their holy book end of story.

What are YOU talking about ? Lmao seriously, it’s in the quran itself, it states that islam should be the only universal religion at all times and places, and its not my business if muslims think like that, but as you yourself said here before, since muslims are the most devoted people to their religion, which is why it’s only natural for them to follow whatever the quran says.
 

There are muslims in Europe who want to practice sharia law. Herein lies the problem, because sharia is not in the interest of all members of society especially when talking about an European country. But, this is when muslims realize that they cannot follow the quran in this situation. So, it’s not because they don’t want as you try to claim but because they cannot. 

 

You don’t see any muslims burning pride flags in front of governmental buildings, I’ve seen muslims burning pride flags inside educational institutions in Europe, the problem here again is not the action, but like I said before it’s the fact that someone is burning that flag only because they hate another person for being themselves..

 

This reminds me of the time in 2012 when a group of people in Libya not only burned the US embassy (a government building) but also killed some victims inside including the ambassador himself because of an American movie criticizing islam, an entire building was burned and people were killed just because of a movie they probably don't have any idea about.

 

The main point here, I don't care what people believe or think as long as there is no harm or hate against others in doing so, people can worship stones if they want but don't throw them at me. 

Edited June 30, 2023 by A.R.L

[Mastamaind]

2 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Arabs never colonized North Africa or Europe lol. Thats conquest. The West economically and politically exploited… basically everybody. And still do.

Do you ever feel like reading a history book on Morocco? Or perhaps pre-America invasion Spanish Empire history?

[ZIVERT]

1 hour ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

False. Lol are u serious? Millions of Iraqi citizens died in 2003-2008 but what arabs are doing now (literally where?) is the same. read a book. Like white zionists and the US arent commiting genocide on muslim lands as we speak in Palestine. 

Muslim lands? Girl  

[Aren]

10 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Burning Qurans and pride flags are both bad and don't really need any justification... these aren't the victimization Olympics. Do you seriously not think muslims aren't persecuted minorities and suffered from liberalism in the past?? How about muslims remain muslims, which is their right, and people stop waging war on this group of people for not really doing anything. These burning stunts only happen for political reasonings and to gain attention from far right supporters. It does much more harm than good. You can 100% share your critisisms of Islam without burning stuff. And just because Islam is an ideology and the Quran is "a book" does not give you the right to disrespect it. Hence my comparison that it would also not be okay to burn a pride flag because it's "just a flag". 

The man who burned the Quran 100% had the right to do it, after all he and his family fled their homeland due to the the extreme persecution they faced from followers of said book. Of course it’s political, he’s trying to bring awareness of the dangers of mass Muslim immigration and how it could affect a secular, liberal society like Sweden. He lost everything in Iraq, and now he’s concerned about his new country. He has a legit reason to do it and you cannot just call someone who comes from an extremely persecuted indigenous community (Assyrian) that endured genocide and ethnic cleansing by Muslims ‘far right’.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

49 minutes ago, Mastamaind said:

Do you ever feel like reading a history book on Morocco? Or perhaps pre-America invasion Spanish Empire history?

Arabs CONQUESTSD morocco… they did not colonize morocco  hence why majority of Moroccan population is ethnically Imazigh. Colonizing means you exploit a country for capital or socio politcal power. Arabs did not even do that in the year 700 AD. They spread Islam and conquered the land. thats very different than colonization lol

[truthteller]

i would like to see the same anger when a pride flag is burnt

[Mastamaind]

17 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Arabs CONQUESTSD morocco… they did not colonize morocco  hence why majority of Moroccan population is ethnically Imazigh. Colonizing means you exploit a country for capital or socio politcal power. Arabs did not even do that in the year 700 AD. They spread Islam and conquered the land. thats very different than colonization lol

You probably think what the Spanish Empire did to America was a conquest?

 

Tell the same thing to the spanish people and see how they respond.

 

What happened to the original people (in Irak) of the iraqi guy 

that did the protest this thread is about, is also a conquest?

 

So the original people in Morocco pre-arabic "conquest" don't matter? They're all arabs/muslims right? They don't exist. Right?

Edited June 30, 2023 by Mastamaind

[Riverbank]

3 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Arabs never colonized North Africa or Europe lol. Thats conquest. The West economically and politically exploited… basically everybody. And still do.

Yeah let's just pretend the Caliphates and the Muslim conquests had absolutely no political or economical benefits and that they didn't eradicate centuries of history and culture... you can't be THAT dense

Edited June 30, 2023 by Riverbank

[Riverbank]

26 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Arabs CONQUESTSD morocco… they did not colonize morocco  hence why majority of Moroccan population is ethnically Imazigh. Colonizing means you exploit a country for capital or socio politcal power. Arabs did not even do that in the year 700 AD. They spread Islam and conquered the land. thats very different than colonization lol

And is that supposed to make it better?  The indigenous people had literally no other choice than to convert or see their loved ones raped and killed. Conquest literally means taking control by military force.

[Embustera]

Disgusting. Just respect each other.

[Embustera]

1 hour ago, Mastamaind said:

Do you ever feel like reading a history book on Morocco? Or perhaps pre-America invasion Spanish Empire history?

Maybe you should read an history book, because most Moroccans are still Imazighen

[Mastamaind]

1 minute ago, Embustera said:

Maybe you should read an history book, because most Moroccans are still Imazighen

Fine, but arabs/muslims did nothing in North Africa?

[Riverbank]

10 minutes ago, Embustera said:

Maybe you should read an history book, because most Moroccans are still Imazighen

And yet Arabic was the only official language there up til 2011, when Tamazight was finally recognized. Surely it has something to do with the "peaceful" conquests?

[Embustera]

Just now, Riverbank said:

And yet Arabic was the only official language there up til 2011, when Tamazight was finally recognized. Surely it has something to do with the "peaceful" conquests?

And yet most Imazighen are very proud Muslims. Does it hurt you so much 💀 

[OmegaRidley]

Who cares ? Burning the book is direspectful towards the IDEOLOGY, and Islam as an ideology/religion does not deserve respect, especially from queer people. 

[Riverbank]

9 minutes ago, Embustera said:

And yet most Imazighen are very proud Muslims. Does it hurt you so much 💀 

No but the inability to erase history does make a few people mad. In your own words: "maybe open a history book?"

[Embustera]

Anyways

 

This will obstruct Sweden’s NATO entry

 

 

[La Reina]

I don't see the issue. There was a viral video of a Muslim mother in Canada making her children stomp and rip LGBTQ flags at Pride. Hate is being taught via religion.

 

So if that was allowed, then this should be too.

[Aren]

2 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Arabs CONQUESTSD morocco… they did not colonize morocco  hence why majority of Moroccan population is ethnically Imazigh. Colonizing means you exploit a country for capital or socio politcal power. Arabs did not even do that in the year 700 AD. They spread Islam and conquered the land. thats very different than colonization lol

What about the Arab slave trade which preceded the Atlantic slave trade by 1000 years?

[SlowGinFizzzz]

Good. More people (and especially queer ones tbh) should stand up against this dangerous ideology. 

Edited June 30, 2023 by SlowGinFizzzz

[Aethereal]

7 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Arabs CONQUESTSD morocco… they did not colonize morocco  hence why majority of Moroccan population is ethnically Imazigh. Colonizing means you exploit a country for capital or socio politcal power. Arabs did not even do that in the year 700 AD. They spread Islam and conquered the land. thats very different than colonization lol

Who paid taxes? LOL. 

[Robert]

This is a clear act of intimidation and anyone trying to act like its anything other than racist and islamophobic is in denial.  Be aware the people burning this book probably don't love the LGBT community either.