Bigger: Britney in 1999-2000 vs Taylor in 2022-2023?

[dirrtydiana]

Just now, Axelios said:

10 years into her career, Taylor was finishing the 1989 era the biggest album of 2014-2015. 13 years into her career she released the biggest album of 2019 (Lover) which had incredible longevity in the BB200. 16 years into her career she had her career best and first 1 million + album debut in the US since her own Reputation making it her 5th overall.

Her and Britney are clearly not the same.

1989 was her pop debut, ofc that was huge for her. 16 years into her career with no career ending situations, quite the opposite. She’s made excellent business moves for 16 years straight where as Britney’s last time she properly handled hers was in 2004. 
not to mention Britney literally came from nothing unlike taylor
 

and you’re right, anyone could be an angsty girl in a guitar (or boy, look at Ed Sheeran) but not everyone could be thee princess of pop. they’re completely and thankfully not the same 

 

2 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Taylor dwarfs her competition (male and female), while Britney was always outdone by bigger artists like Eminem.

Please, is that why she didn’t release when 25 and 30 or drake released? She pales in comparison to them. 
 

eminem is a male rapper and the others were massive boybands, of course they were selling the most yet she still kept up unlike the other girls from her time

[dirrtydiana]

4 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Incorrect! Nobody is able compete with Taylor currently, that is not the same thing 

If drake and Adele were releasing as much as her and doing re-recordings they would leave her in the dust 

 

y’all are so cocky. Your girl is promoting like 10 albums at once. Take all that away and it’d still be big, sure, but nowhere near as it is right now

[Beyonnaise]

2 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

If drake and Adele were releasing as much as her and doing re-recordings they would leave her in the dust 

Drake releases annually and Taylor is way more relevant than him musically lol

Edited June 25, 2023 by Beyonnaise

[Chris]

Still you guys cannot act like Britney's change in her third album didn't alienate most of her fanbase.

[dirrtydiana]

Just now, Beyonnaise said:

Drake releases annually and Taylor is way more relevant than her musically lol

Call me when he starts exploiting his early work and calling it Drake’s Version

[Beyonnaise]

1 minute ago, dirrtydiana said:

Call me when he starts exploiting his early work and calling it Drake’s Version

He did re-release his debut EP So Far Gone and Dark Lane Demo Tapes full of unreleased songs in recent years, they both bombed.

 

Your fumes at Taylor’s unprecedented domination in this and other threads are sad to see. I’d recommend logging off, taking a few deep breaths and touching grass

[dirrtydiana]

Just now, Beyonnaise said:

He did re-release his debut EP So Far Gone and Dark Lane Demo Tapes full of unreleased songs in recent years, they both bombed.

 

Your fumes at Taylor’s unprecedented domination in this and other threads are sad to see. I’d recommend logging off, taking a few deep breaths and touching grass

an EP and demo tapes? Totally the same.
 

Sweetie, you’re confusing me with suburban and britney

[dirrtydiana]

11 minutes ago, Chris said:

Still you guys cannot act like Britney's change in her third album didn't alienate most of her fanbase.

And their parents.

 

And no one mentions the rise in piracy and how everyone declined

[Gorjesspazze9]

Britney was the biggest name in media worldwide. Still don’t think anyone was a bigger phenomenon other then Em or Madonna. 

[HappierJealousy]

29 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

If drake and Adele were releasing as much as her and doing re-recordings they would leave her in the dust 

 

y’all are so cocky. Your girl is promoting like 10 albums at once. Take all that away and it’d still be big, sure, but nowhere near as it is right now

How do you know that? Can you just judge something based the fact? This is like delusional, do you really think Adele will be as successful as Taylor if she released album like 30 each year? It will only cause her flop harder.

Drake has released 4 studio album in the 2020s and his 5th is coming in two months

Edited June 25, 2023 by HappierJealousy

[Axelios]

51 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

1989 was her pop debut, ofc that was huge for her. 16 years into her career with no career ending situations, quite the opposite. She’s made excellent business moves for 16 years straight where as Britney’s last time she properly handled hers was in 2004. 
not to mention Britney literally came from nothing unlike taylor
 

and you’re right, anyone could be an angsty girl in a guitar (or boy, look at Ed Sheeran) but not everyone could be thee princess of pop. they’re completely and thankfully not the same 

 

Please, is that why she didn’t release when 25 and 30 or drake released? She pales in comparison to them. 
 

eminem is a male rapper and the others were massive boybands, of course they were selling the most yet she still kept up unlike the other girls from her time

Drake was never bigger than Taylor and he releases much more frequently and yet declined very fast compared to her. Adele had two huge albums but that's it. 30 had less longevity than a Taylor rerecording. If Adele was releasing more, she wpuld have probably declined even faster if anything.

Do you realize Taylor was relevant for much longer than Adele and Drake and outlasted both with ease?

There is no massive rapper or boysband that surpasses Taylor currently she is unmatched.

[WEEKND]

1 hour ago, dirrtydiana said:

So what you’re saying is Britney had huge competition and taylor has none right now

Taylor has competition but she is eclipsing everyone.

she is the ONLY singer in the entire world who can debut with 1M that’s pretty wild 

 

when Britney was doing it BSB and Nsync were doing it too 

 

Britney was never number one in an area 

 

Taylor is the current reigning queen of streaming, touring, album sales and media engagement. 


That being said. I’m not really sure if that truly matters. No matter how impressive Taylor stats are I prefer Britney lmao. 

[WEEKND]

59 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

1989 was her pop debut, ofc that was huge for her. 16 years into her career with no career ending situations, quite the opposite. She’s made excellent business moves for 16 years straight where as Britney’s last time she properly handled hers was in 2004. 
not to mention Britney literally came from nothing unlike taylor
 

and you’re right, anyone could be an angsty girl in a guitar (or boy, look at Ed Sheeran) but not everyone could be thee princess of pop. they’re completely and thankfully not the same 

 

Please, is that why she didn’t release when 25 and 30 or drake released? She pales in comparison to them. 
 

eminem is a male rapper and the others were massive boybands, of course they were selling the most yet she still kept up unlike the other girls from her time

Papi those are excuses and that’s why I’m saying this comparison is unfair 

 

I don’t think Britney should be compared to Beyoncé or Taylor. Those two never had to deal with all the trauma Britney went through

 

i think as a Stan this upsets you because you know how hard Britney had it and now u have swifties bragging about Taylor’s reign. Just let it go. Everyone in their heart of heart knows that Britney was not in any shape of form able to make the business decisions that Taylor gets to make 

[collin]

Britney, but it’s close.

[Monkey_Juice]

Britney was our Madonna/MJ

she was the most famous person on earth at one point

You had to be there

 

Taylor is thriving and has the stats but is nowhere near as iconic

[Raspberries]

An insult to Taylor

[Raspberries]

And of course that dirrtydiana user is in here spouting the same **** they've said in 50 other threads almost word for word

[littlebodybigheart]

1 hour ago, dirrtydiana said:

Call me when he starts exploiting his early work and calling it Drake’s Version

not you moving the goalposts after you got clocked  i’m a drake fan and he definitely does release his old work/mixtapes repackaged all the time. what the hell are you talking about?

[georgechxng]

2 hours ago, Axelios said:

13 years into her career she released the biggest album of 2019 (Lover)

that's a crazy lie. everyone and their mom knows the biggest album of 2019 was billie's debut  even currently the album is still +4M sales ahead of lover. 

[fromily]

As others have said, the literal DECADES between the two have seen massive shifts in how pop culture even works so it's an apples and oranges thing 

 

Having said that, I genuinely don't know what people mean when they talk about the <impact> of the eras tour tho??? Are they just referring to the demand for tickets? Because issues w ticketing have been plaguing literally every major act touring rn so idgi :/

[CandleGuy]

8 hours ago, Axelios said:

Taylor, Britney was just a teen pop phenomena like a BTS with less longevity at the time 

You clearly weren't alive at the time if you believe that.

 

Britney was everything, everywhere, all at once. She was a bigger household name than the president.

 

It was the very birth of teen pop mania, not like BTS which are a stale afterthought of teen pop 20+ years after its peak.

 

Britney does not have Taylor's sustained/repeat peaks or massively loyal fanbase but she had the biggest peak of all time.

 

 

[Outside789]

7 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

Taylor and it’s not even close. Especially when you take into account that Taylor is 17 years into her career and Britney free fell from 2000 onwards

Not when Britney's stats from 2000 to 2005 prove otherwise. Only after her personal problems startewd to occur, was when Britney started to slow down. But she was still able to get a comeback moment in 2008, and her most successful tour in 2009.

[dirrtydiana]

1 hour ago, littlebodybigheart said:

not you moving the goalposts after you got clocked  i’m a drake fan and he definitely does release his old work/mixtapes repackaged all the time. what the hell are you talking about?

What goal post? I’m not a fan so I didn’t know he had a scandal involving his masters a la Jojo causing him to re record and exploit each re release. Anyway my point is drake and adele are bigger 

[fromily]

20 minutes ago, fromily said:

Having said that, I genuinely don't know what people mean when they talk about the <impact> of the eras tour tho??? Are they just referring to the demand for tickets? Because issues w ticketing have been plaguing literally every major act touring rn so idgi :/

Quoting myself because i did 5 minutes research lol and now i get what people mean when they say it's having AN impact, but I think even this really highlights the difference between peaking in 22-23 and 99-2000~

 

In the late 90s/early 2000s, britney was inescapable - if you needed groceries she was on every magazine in every supermarket, corner store, pharmacy you name it. If you needed gas, same thing. If you wanted to listen to the radio, she'd be there - and the djs would be talking about her. If you wanted to buy music, you'd go into a physical store where her posters and CDs would be a literal wall. If you watched tv she'd be on the news or whatever music channel you watched. She was everywhere.

 

Taylor swift may be in the middle of one of the (if not the) highest grossing tours of all time, affecting economies worldwide and changing legal precedents etc etc. But the fact is that unless you're a fan, a teenager or terminally online, then it's entirely possible to go about your life not knowing any of that simply because the way in which we consume pop culture has changed since 1999 

[Broken]

Taylor.