Bigger: Britney in 1999-2000 vs Taylor in 2022-2023?

[Badgalbriel]

2 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

And pure while the prices were $20 ($36 today) and people had to physically leave their house and camp out at stores. Without the help of free streaming, a million releases, re recordings, the current vinyl trend, huge competition, and so on.

 

This, taylor is loved today while Britney was scrutinized for every single thing. This weird obsession still is around today present on this very board where only Britney gets penalized for things others do as well

Vinyl trend? As opposed to the physical trend in 1999? Also, it's much harder to accumulate copies today than it was back in 1998-2004. And Taylor is doing at a much faster pace than Britney ever has

[americanshameless]

3 hours ago, Breakdown said:

Taylor, she's respected for her talent by a lot of people and her being a smart business woman. Britney has never been respected or was responsible for her success.

 

 

Respected legend!!

Edited June 25, 2023 by americanshameless

[dirrtydiana]

6 minutes ago, Chris said:

Also, you have to consider Britney's image change after Oops I Did it Again.

 

Why is that not being discussed?

Yup like piracy being an at an all time high. Everyone declined yet only she gets picked on for it as opposed to when she was the only female (solo or group) to sell over 1M debut week, then suddenly it’s “buT evErYoNe hAd 1M oPenErs!!1”

 

3 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

Vinyl trend? As opposed to the physical trend in 1999? Also, it's much harder to accumulate copies today than it was back in 1998-2004. And Taylor is doing at a much faster pace than Britney ever has

With streaming equivalents? And endless variations? I’m not sure how true that if Britney had back to back diamond albums. but I would sure hope she’s moving a lot of units considering her constant releases since 2020 and re recordings 

Edited June 25, 2023 by dirrtydiana

[ttsmu]

2 minutes ago, americanshameless said:

 

 

Respected legend!!

Omg her stage presence is awful.

[Badgalbriel]

I love how the Britney revisionists live in a constant state of delusion where they think whatever Britney did in 1998 or 1999 was actually out of this world. She was doing the same thing the other mega successful acts of her time were doing. Backstreet Boys, Garth Brooks, Celine, Shania, Alanis... Britney was not pulling bigger number than these acts. She has a huge and an amazing career but she didn't have this world-domination effect you all pretend she had. 

[suburbannature]

Just now, Badgalbriel said:

I love how the Britney revisionists live in a constant state of delusion where they think whatever Britney did in 1998 or 1999 was actually out of this world. She was doing the same thing the other mega successful acts of her time were doing. Backstreet Boys, Garth Brooks, Celine, Shania, Alanis... Britney was not pulling bigger number than these acts. She has a huge and an amazing career but she didn't have this world-domination effect you all pretend she had. 

I think it's the nostalgia factor. She was a huge celebrity name, but she wasn't doing anything that hadn't been done by Madonna, MJ, Aaliyah, Janet, Kelis.

[Badgalbriel]

5 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

Yup like piracy being an at an all time high. Everyone declined yet only she gets picked on for it as opposed to when she was the only female (solo or group) to sell over 1M debut week, then suddenly it’s “buT evErYoNe hAd 1M oPenErs!!1”

 

With streaming equivalents? And endless variations? I’m not sure how true that if Britney had back to back diamond albums. but I would sure hope she’s moving a lot of units considering her constant releases since 2020 and re recordings 

Still, it's much harder to accumulate copies in the streaming era, which is why we don't have artists opening with the huge numbers that artists in the 90s and 00s used to pull. 

[XAMJ]

People saying Britney are holding on to the past. Taylor is unmatched, especially since she is this big in 2023.

[kimbo]

100% brit

[suburbannature]

1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said:

Still, it's much harder to accumulate copies in the streaming era, which is why we don't have artists opening with the huge numbers that artists in the 90s and 00s used to pull. 

Spoiler

that's actually not true don't lose the plot

 

[Badgalbriel]

1 minute ago, suburbannature said:

I think it's the nostalgia factor. She was a huge celebrity name, but she wasn't doing anything that hadn't been done by Madonna, MJ, Aaliyah, Janet, Kelis.

Exactly, there's no denying she was huge for those 3 years. But until someone gives me a list showing me that Britney was the biggest album seller or touring act or single seller during any given time of her career, those 3 years will just sound like nostalgia effect to me. 

[Gui Blackout]

7 minutes ago, americanshameless said:

 

 

Respected legend!!

These being from one acct and not even viral enough for an ATRL thread 😭😭😭 it was bad for yall

[suburbannature]

Just now, Badgalbriel said:

Exactly, there's no denying she was huge for those 3 years. But until someone gives me a list showing me that Britney was the biggest album seller or touring act or single seller during any given time of her career, those 3 years will just sound like nostalgia effect to me. 

 

[americanshameless]

1 minute ago, Gui Blackout said:

These being from one acct and not even viral enough for an ATRL thread 😭😭😭 it was bad for yall

That’s tweets from 3 different accounts, is there a reason why you’d think it’s from one account?

 

6 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

I love how the Britney revisionists live in a constant state of delusion where they think whatever Britney did in 1998 or 1999 was actually out of this world. She was doing the same thing the other mega successful acts of her time were doing. Backstreet Boys, Garth Brooks, Celine, Shania, Alanis... Britney was not pulling bigger number than these acts. She has a huge and an amazing career but she didn't have this world-domination effect you all pretend she had. 

Collect your undercooked spaghetti and yam it up in the corner. Always every other woman but T*ylor in y’alls mouths  

 

7 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

Omg her stage presence is awful.

WHAT presence?

[Gui Blackout]

Based on facts and reality: Taylor

 

Based on childhood nostalgia that some gays can't let go off : Britney 

[dirrtydiana]

1 minute ago, suburbannature said:

I think it's the nostalgia factor. She was a huge celebrity name, but she wasn't doing anything that hadn't been done by Madonna, MJ, Aaliyah, Janet, Kelis.

So now the goal post is MJ, janet and them lol 

She was on top of the world and that’s fact. No one got close to the greats but Eminem and Britney were the fastest selling and closer to them. 
and certainly taylor will never touch them so it’s redundant 

good for her, she and her label work extremely hard but even with her million releases she won’t touch Adele’s 25

 

 

1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said:

Still, it's much harder to accumulate copies in the streaming era, which is why we don't have artists opening with the huge numbers that artists in the 90s and 00s used to pull. 

I’m not diminishing the fact she has like five 1M openers. I’m only pointing out the fact that today people can click a button on their phone and get the album freely delivered the same day at their doorstep for half the price. 

[suburbannature]

Just now, dirrtydiana said:

So now the goal post is MJ, janet and them lol 

She was on top of the world and that’s fact. No one got close to the greats but Eminem and Britney were the fastest selling and closer to them. 
and certainly taylor will never touch them so it’s redundant 

good for her, she and her label work extremely hard but even with her million releases she won’t touch Adele’s 25

 

 Taylor surpassed Britney a LONG time ago

[dirrtydiana]

Just now, suburbannature said:

 Taylor surpassed Britney a LONG time ago

Yes she also surpassed adele, beyonce, shakira, shania, madonna, ugh I have to stan!

[Badgalbriel]

1 minute ago, dirrtydiana said:

So now the goal post is MJ, janet and them lol 

She was on top of the world and that’s fact. No one got close to the greats but Eminem and Britney were the fastest selling and closer to them. 
and certainly taylor will never touch them so it’s redundant 

good for her, she and her label work extremely hard but even with her million releases she won’t touch Adele’s 25

 

 

I’m not diminishing the fact she has like five 1M openers. I’m only pointing out the fact that today people can click a button on their phone and get the album freely delivered the same day at their doorstep for half the price. 

And still, artists in the 90s and 00s accumulated much more units in a much faster pace. Taylor is the exception for the 20s.

[Badgalbriel]

Just now, dirrtydiana said:

Yes she also surpassed adele, beyonce, shakira, shania, madonna, ugh I have to stan!

Thanks for acknowledging it. In 20 she will have surpassed Madonna too. 

[ddddynamite]

18 minutes ago, americanshameless said:

 

 

Respected legend!!

At some point y'all got to understand how irrelevant Twitter is. So she has 60,000 haters on that app?

Do you know Taylor Swift has 15 millions users listen to her music on Spotify alone every day?

 

OT: What's going on on here today Probably Taylor.

Edited June 25, 2023 by ddddynamite

[dirrtydiana]

2 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

And still, artists in the 90s and 00s accumulated much more units in a much faster pace. Taylor is the exception for the 20s.

Boy bands, Eminem and Britney were  the exception as is Adele and admittedly tay since she had 1M debuts since the late 00s

Edited June 25, 2023 by dirrtydiana

[Polgg48]

that's enough for base section today, ridiculous

 

ot: incomparable

[Xtianlofbritney]

1 minute ago, Polgg48 said:

that's enough for base section today, ridiculous

 

ot: incomparable

This

[mylicious]

Obviously BRITNEY, she was a worldwide phenomenon, Taylor is huge too but in a different way, it’s not comparable.