Bigger: Britney in 1999-2000 vs Taylor in 2022-2023?

[dirrtydiana]

1 minute ago, leyaris11 said:

That is why it was so special back in the days. No social media, streaming, digital songs to back it up. Just Britney and her power. Kids these days just don't experiment that and we don't blame them. 

Exactly. Just add more green and yellow to this and the numbers would be even more insane even if the blue lowered

 

 

2 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

Gurl the only real "hit" from BOMT was it's lead. That's almost the sole reason the album sold so many copies. 

 

Also, I don't know where you get your numbers from but BOMT did NOT sell 30M, it was around 25-27 and all of the others succesful albums of the time were selling around the same BECAUSE streaming or digital sales didn't exist.

 

It was even the most sold album from the year it was released, unlike Midnights last year and even probably this one too.

 

I never mentioned a specific number. And 25-27 is not too far from 30.

 

Yes midnights will be the only album to sell 2 million copies this year and decade, sales are dead so this is pointless 

 

Yes britney had fierce competition, nsync, bsb, eminem were selling massively. She was the only girl amongst these men and groups so it makes it even more impressive that she wasn’t as lucky as Taylor to not have any competition 

[SharonStone]

 

"Britney was inescapable" is a lie.
Outside of BOMT (which didn't even hit #1 on radio), she wasn't a radio force during her peak, even Xtina was more inescapable on radio.

Was she even invited to perform at the Grammys, music's biggest night? You know, a show adults watched?

Or was she confined to more teeny bopper shows like TRL and the VMAs?

These are Billboard's top artists of 1999 and 2000:

1 - Backstreet Boys

2 - TLC

3 - Britney Spears

4 - Shania Twain

5 - Ricky Martin

 

1 - Destiny's Child

2 - Santana

3 - 'N Sync

4 - Christina Aguilera

5 - Faith Hill

 

She never was BB's top artist. Outside of that teen pop crowd, Britney struggled.
 

Her 2003 ABC special flopped in the ratings:

”Other specials that scored lackluster ratings were CBS’ “Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show” and ABC’s Britney Spears special.”
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-nov-26-et-tvratingstext26-story.html

[dirrtydiana]

1 hour ago, Axelios said:

Her albums sales would be much lower especially if people weren't forced to buy the album to hear BOMT

BOMT was the only single released physically so that’s false and the song was on heavy rotation on radio and the video on mtv. Were people “forced” to tune in as well?

 

Another example is boys, which was like the 5th single that era was streamed a record breaking (at the time) over 1M times in like a weekend. People already had the album and the video played regularly on mtv. Were they forced to log onto aol to stream it as well?

 

 

@SharonStone girl the term “she was inescapable” refers to outside of charts, you know, in the real world  

 

her videos were everywhere, she was in commercials, her face was everywhere in stores and no I don’t mean tabloids, I mean Barbies, milk, tennis shoes. She was on SNL, her name used in smash hits, doing interviews, making cameos in tv shows and movies, or mentioned without appearing, people at work and school talked about her like Pokémon mania, and I could go on and on. And who cares about an Abc special when she brought the ratings everywhere else and people to the onyx?

Your post really saddens me :(

Edited June 26, 2023 by dirrtydiana

[charot]

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by charot

[Disconnect]

18 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

Exactly. Just add more green and yellow to this and the numbers would be even more insane even if the blue lowered

 

 

I never mentioned a specific number. And 25-27 is not too far from 30.

 

Yes midnights will be the only album to sell 2 million copies this year and decade, sales are dead so this is pointless 

 

Yes britney had fierce competition, nsync, bsb, eminem were selling massively. She was the only girl amongst these men and groups so it makes it even more impressive that she wasn’t as lucky as Taylor to not have any competition 

Yeah and I honestly love Brtiney but I still think Taylor is bigger overall.

 

I think Taylor does have competition with all the latin artist and other females like Olivia and stuff, but the difference now is just that most of the competition is utter garbage tbh. Back then Birtney had good competitors.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Disconnect

[Disconnect]

17 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

Exactly. Just add more green and yellow to this and the numbers would be even more insane even if the blue lowered

 

 

Gurl 1989 and Fearless are not so far from Britney's peak...

She also has Red which was way bigger that "Britney" or ITZ.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Disconnect

[Axelios]

34 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

 

Gurl 1989 and Fearless are not so far from Britney's peak...

She also has Red which was way bigger that "Britney" or ITZ.

+ Taylor albums are still selling a lot of units. Midnights and Lover will easily reach 15 million+ in a few years.

[dirrtydiana]

35 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

 

Gurl 1989 and Fearless are not so far from Britney's peak...

She also has Red which was way bigger that "Britney" or ITZ.

 because of the yellow and green

 

37 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

I think Taylor does have competition with all the latin artist and other females like Olivia and stuff, but the difference now is just that most of the competition is utter garbage tbh.

Yeah and if we’re being honest if someone is gonna be this successful today I’m glad it’s Taylor and not of those new artists who make unlistenable work

[Disconnect]

Just now, dirrtydiana said:

 because of the yellow and green

And? Britney didn't have them simply because they didn't exist. It's just one thing for another but the numbers are not too far appart in the end, it doesn't matter how they get them.

 

Besides, supposedly the CSPC analysis tries to be very objective about the weight of digital sales and streams so...

[Popboi.]

2 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

 because of the yellow and green

 

 

Because that’s how music has been consumed for a decade now? Get on with the times

[dirrtydiana]

1 minute ago, Popboi. said:

Because that’s how music has been consumed for a decade now? Get on with the times

This same energy next time y’all try to come for Britney’s streams

[WildHeart]

3 hours ago, Axelios said:

Stop lying, she is 8th and behind three other women 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/

 

[Sparkle]

Britney SOLD over 50 million albums in that time period alone. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Taylor is expected to be matching that figure by the end of the current year, is she?

[Axelios]

4 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Britney SOLD over 50 million albums in that time period alone. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Taylor is expected to be matching that figure by the end of the current year, is she?

Taylor is projected to GROSS more than 1 billion $ from her current tour. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Britney has ever had a tour that did as much, has she? 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Axelios

[dirrtydiana]

5 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Britney SOLD over 50 million albums in that time period alone. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Taylor is expected to be matching that figure by the end of the current year, is she?

according to her some of her stans no because she’s gonna move more than that 

 

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axelios deflection. Touring wasn’t as big then. U2, Beyoncé, ed Sheeran have huge stadium tours, did that make them bigger than Britney or their predecessors MJ, Madonna janet? No

Edited June 26, 2023 by dirrtydiana

[KanMap]

Britney 

[Sparkle]

2 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Taylor is projected to GROSS more than 1 billion $ from her current tour. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Britney has ever had a tour that did as much, has she? 

As I have already pointed out earlier today in a similar thread, the pandemic really did wonders for the whole touring business, didn't it?

[Axelios]

2 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

As I have already pointed out earlier today in a similar thread, the pandemic really did wonders for the whole touring business, didn't it?

And the end of the 90s early 2000s physical sales peak really did wonder for everyone's album sales didn't it?

Even Reputation tour pre pandemic is much bigger than any Britney tour anyway.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Axelios

[Sparkle]

5 minutes ago, Axelios said:

And the end of the 90s early 2000s physical sales peak really did wonder for everyone's album sales didn't it?

Even Reputation tour pre pandemic is much bigger than any Britney tour anyway.

I don't doubt Britney would be having comparable box scores for her dates if she bothered to embark on a tour nowadays tbh! And NO, sadly I think that Taylor doing her spam release thing back in the late 90's would not have mattered much because people used to have a higher quality standard for music back then.

[dirrtydiana]

15 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

As I have already pointed out earlier today in a similar thread, the pandemic really did wonders for the whole touring business, didn't it?

This and add on the sheer hype of her promoting her TVs

 

12 minutes ago, Axelios said:

And the end of the 90s early 2000s physical sales peak really did wonder for everyone's album sales didn't it?

Even Reputation tour pre pandemic is much bigger than any Britney tour anyway.

Bad bunny has a huge tour so he must be bigger than Britney, janet, Madonna and everyone he out grossed 

 

and no otherwise everyone would have similar numbers to the big sellers nsync, backstreet boys, eminem and Britney so you must be confused with streaming as almost everyone gets huge streaming numbers nowadays 

Edited June 26, 2023 by dirrtydiana

[BigBangStan]

Britney Spears peak was comparable to Lady Gaga's The Fame (Monster) era, i don't think Taylor reached that level of fame with 1989 or Midnights, which are her peaks.

[dirrtydiana]

1 minute ago, BigBangStan said:

Britney Spears peak was comparable to Lady Gaga's The Fame (Monster) era, i don't think Taylor reached that level of fame with 1989 or Midnights, which are her peaks.

Bu but! The tour! it’s gonna make $5B and her 20 albums are all selling so this means she’s bigger than the Beatles!!!

[chaklux]

Given that Taylor is 17 years into her career and she is the biggest artist right now is super impressive and she is way bigger than Britney overrall. However in terms of peak, that having the world in chokehold peak, Britney peak is bigger and I think Adele’s 21 era is more comparable. Taylor is bigger and more successful than Adele overrall but she yet to have an era as big as 21 or Britney peak. 
Britney’ s Peak, Gaga’s peak and Adele’s peak are still the biggest peak for female artists in the last 25 years. Taylor has the most successful career commercially though. 

Edited June 26, 2023 by chaklux

[Inhwan]

45 minutes ago, BigBangStan said:

Britney Spears peak was comparable to Lady Gaga's The Fame (Monster) era, i don't think Taylor reached that level of fame with 1989 or Midnights, which are her peaks.

That was what i meant to some extent... Fame Monster was absolutely huge and cultural reset.. like Baby one more time did so.. i dont know why some of you guys were fuming..

 

I think Taylor had good competitors though. She had Adele, Gaga, Riri, Katy. And for males, Justin, Ed, Drake, Weekend  and maybe BTS?

Just she outlasted most of them..

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Inhwan

[Orsay]

i mean, a big part of Taylor’s current domination is her back catalogue’s continued slayage

 

BOMT vs Midnights alone? BOMT clears