Bigger: Britney in 1999-2000 vs Taylor in 2022-2023?

[Popboi.]

30 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

-Madonna is 

-so does Olivia Rodrigo.. this isn’t the flex you think it is

-it took her five tries and without streaming, million releases re-recordings and the half a million vinyls, she would’ve done like 700k which is still massive 

-Janet got the $100M record deal in 93 so that’s already seen and done

 

Oh my

 

the cd sales peak is such an absurd thing to use against Britney. Where are the other girls two or even one diamond albums ma? Britney is the Adele of her time. Think a little.

- Madonna has praised and performed with Taylor as well, what is the point?

- Taylor's Song Writing:

 

- 5 tries? She did 1m+ 5x (unprecedented, unlike a singular 1m+ debut) and GREW throughout her career (foreign term for a Britney stan, I know) and she SOLD those half a million vinyl. Might as well take notes Britney's discography has been repressed on vinyl half a dozen times in different colors since 2018 and NONE charted ANYWHERE.

- Janet got a $80m record deal at the very height of her career, what are you even trying to prove or discredit here?

 

 

1995-2000 saw Shania get 2 (and then another one early 00s), Céline get 2, even The Chicks got 2 in the late 90s  Adele of her time WHERE?

 

[Popboi.]

3 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Stop lying, she is 8th and behind three other women 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/

 

[Steve Johnson]

6 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Stop lying, she is 8th and behind three other women 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/

 

Oh wow

[Badgalbriel]

23 minutes ago, leyaris11 said:

Thats true though. Both lasted for 3 year.

[Klein]

10 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Stop lying, she is 8th and behind three other women 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/

 

[dirrtydiana]

22 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Stop lying, she is 8th and behind three other women 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/

 

This list takes into account peaks in the 100 and 200, I’m talking about sales. She was the biggest selling camels from 00-09 only behind Eminem. Can’t you read?

[Axelios]

1 minute ago, dirrtydiana said:

This list takes into account peaks in the 100 and 200, I’m talking about sales. She was the biggest selling camels from 00-09 only behind Eminem. Can’t you read?

You said "Billboard biggest female of the decade", Billboard artist lists are always based on charts

Edited June 26, 2023 by Axelios

[leyaris11]

14 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

Thats true though. Both lasted for 3 year.

Not tho when she keeps comeback and re-peak again and again with Blackout, Circus, Femme Fatale and reinvented the whole Vegas Residency. 

[dirrtydiana]

3 minutes ago, Axelios said:

You said "Billboard biggest female of the decade", Billboard artist lists are always based on charts

I said “only behind Eminem in sales and that doesn’t even include their 90s sales”

 

or are you suggesting Alicia keys outsold Britney Spears from 2000-2009?

 

if so may I suggest reading and math classes

Edited June 26, 2023 by dirrtydiana

[Inhwan]

1 minute ago, dirrtydiana said:

I said “only behind Eminem in sales not and that doesn’t even include their 90s sales”

 

or are you suggesting Alicia keys outsold Britney Spears from 2000-2009?

 

if so may I suggest reading and math classes

Alicia Keys was HUGE in 00s at least in US. She was a smash after smash. But  Brit was a global force. I guess Brit was 2nd in the world sales. (I might be wrong though as i didnt check the list lol)

[Axelios]

2 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

I said “only behind Eminem in sales and that doesn’t even include their 90s sales”

 

or are you suggesting Alicia keys outsold Britney Spears from 2000-2009?

 

if so may I suggest reading and math classes

This is what you said:

37 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

She was literally billboards the biggest female of the decade in 2010 only second to him, biggest male.

Seems very clear to me.

[naval23]

BOMT sold 25M WW pure sweetie with a global smash that went #1 in 30+ countries and multiple global hits ...

 

 

[dirrtydiana]

5 minutes ago, Inhwan said:

Alicia Keys was HUGE in 00s at least in US. She was a smash after smash. But  Brit was a global force. I guess Brit was 2nd in the world sales. (I might be wrong though as i didnt check the list lol)

 

5 minutes ago, Axelios said:

This is what you said:

Seems very clear to me.

Oops I admittedly forgot to type “selling” on that first post 

 

but yes I’m aware Britney would it do well in a decade end list as she only had womanizer and 3 hit #1 on the 100 as opposed to the countless of weeks em, bey and Alicia spent

[dirrtydiana]

37 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

1995-2000 saw Shania get 2 (and then another one early 00s), Céline get 2, even The Chicks got 2

I didn’t know they were Britney’s peers

 

She got hers in 99 and 00 so why are you going back to 95?

 

 

shania has the biggest female selling album of all time and swifties are acting like all Taylor’s albums have sold that amount each claiming she’s coming for the beatles. It’s ridiculous 

 

she’s the adele of her time because no other girl was moving 50M units with her first 3 efforts so fast. It’s an anomaly like Adele what’s not clicking?

[wastedpotential]

1 hour ago, dirrtydiana said:

She was literally billboards the biggest female of the decade in 2010 only second to him, biggest male. Without counting their 90s sales. They’re literally the MJ and Madonna of our time 

 

 

 

I know this is backhanded but you’re right. And she did it with just 2 albums like Adele as opposed to 18 

 

1 hour ago, Axelios said:

Stop lying, she is 8th and behind three other women 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/

 

 

1 hour ago, dirrtydiana said:

This list takes into account peaks in the 100 and 200, I’m talking about sales. She was the biggest selling camels from 00-09 only behind Eminem. Can’t you read?

 

1 hour ago, Axelios said:

You said "Billboard biggest female of the decade", Billboard artist lists are always based on charts

 

1 hour ago, dirrtydiana said:

I said “only behind Eminem in sales and that doesn’t even include their 90s sales”

 

or are you suggesting Alicia keys outsold Britney Spears from 2000-2009?

 

if so may I suggest reading and math classes

 

1 hour ago, Axelios said:

This is what you said:

Seems very clear to me.

The clock 

 

I just know dirrtydiana saw Taylor claim the top female artist of the 2010s prize (and second overall to a rapper) and try to recreate it for Britney too 

[Disconnect]

Honestly Taylor BUT by a very thin margin. Britney was HUGE, I can still remember how it was and it brings shivers down my spine.

Id' say the only advantage Taylor really has over Britney is the critical success, besides the commercial one.

 

And don't come here talking about the touring numbers BC this has been discussed before. Back then, touring wasn't a thing like it is today and artists relied more on album sales which for Britney were massive so...

 

If anything Taylor is likely to become what Britney could've been if she hadn't had her breakdown . (Sucess wise)

Edited June 26, 2023 by Disconnect

[Xtripped]

Just look at the Billboard 200 now and how it looked around 00-01. 

 

The BIG gap between Taylor and the 2nd most streamed female is absurd.

By her third album, Britney was selling the same as Xtina, Beyonce, Shakira and Avril.

[Disconnect]

1 hour ago, naval23 said:

BOMT sold 25M WW pure sweetie with a global smash that went #1 in 30+ countries and multiple global hits ...

 

 

That was back when neither digital songs nor streaming existed...

 

Also, remember Taylor sold around 11M PURE sales of 1989 in 2014-2015? Yep.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Disconnect

[dirrtydiana]

On 6/27/2023 at 3:34 AM, wastedpotential said:

 

 

 

 

 

The clock 

 

I just know dirrtydiana saw Taylor claim the top female artist of the 2010s prize (and second overall to a rapper) and try to recreate it for Britney too 

Try? Can you please tell me which female from 2000-2009 sold more than oops, brit, itz, mp, blackout and circus? She was the best selling female artist only behind Eminem that decade, no matter what y’all say or do and that’s fact

 

 

UPDATE:

 

Edited December 28, 2023 by dirrtydiana

[dirrtydiana]

3 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

That was back when neither digital songs nor streaming existed...

So imagine how much higher Britney’s numbers would if there was digital and streaming existed? 

[Disconnect]

1 minute ago, dirrtydiana said:

So imagine how much higher Britney’s numbers would if there was digital and streaming existed? 

Not more tha Taylor's sis...

Taylor literally occupied the whole top 10 of the Hot 100. Could Britney have done that?

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Disconnect

[dirrtydiana]

Just now, Disconnect said:

Not more tha Taylor's sis...

Taylor literally occupied the whole top 10 of the Hot 100. Could Britney have done that?

 

If there was streaming yes. 
Drake and bad bunny did something similar recently as well so it’s becoming the new norm

[leyaris11]

9 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

So imagine how much higher Britney’s numbers would if there was digital and streaming existed? 

That is why it was so special back in the days. No social media, streaming, digital songs to back it up. Just Britney and her power. Kids these days just don't experiment that and we don't blame them. 

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by leyaris11

[Axelios]

7 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

So imagine how much higher Britney’s numbers would if there was digital and streaming existed? 

Her albums sales would be much lower especially if people weren't forced to buy the album to hear BOMT

Edited June 26, 2023 by Axelios

[Disconnect]

5 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

If there was streaming yes. 
Drake and bad bunny did something similar recently as well so it’s becoming the new norm

Gurl the only real "hit" from BOMT was it's lead. That's almost the sole reason the album sold so many copies. 

 

Also, I don't know where you get your numbers from but BOMT did NOT sell 30M, it was around 25-27 and ALL of the others succesful albums of the time were selling around the same BECAUSE streaming or digital sales didn't exist.

 

It wasn't even the most sold album from the year it was released, unlike Midnights last year and even probably this one too.

 

Secrets You Never Knew About Britney Spears' Baby One More Time - E! Online (eonline.com)

Best-selling albums of 1999 (bestsellingalbums.org)

Edited June 26, 2023 by Disconnect