discussion China is leading the 5th major technology revolution in history

[Chemist]

[Frozen99]

scary

[Robert]

Chinese cities look so futuristic and the entire country is cashless and everything is done electronically. My Chinese friend was saying how she can pay for things in Beijing using facial recognition which is kind of scary.

 

The public transport in China is world class though and puts western countries to shame. EVs are also the norm in tier 1 cities like Shanghai.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Robert

[Saintlor]

7 minutes ago, Robert said:

Chinese cities look so futuristic and the entire country is cashless and everything is done electronically. My Chinese friend was saying how she can pay for things in Beijing using facial recognition.

Could you get scammed by a twin in this case?

[CBC]

no source...

[Robert]

11 minutes ago, Saintlor said:

Could you get scammed by a twin in this case?

I didn’t ask but you use it while wearing a mask so it must be pretty sensitive.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Robert

[Breathe On Moi]

12 minutes ago, CBC said:

no source...

it’s Carlota Perez bro….don’t you see she used a big red mark and everything? 

[Communion]

I'll never forget when some propagandized reactionary on here was screaming about China's carbon emissions yet, when told how it makes no sense to compare overall emissions but emissions per capita, they went "but does the EARTH care if it's coming from 1b people or 300m????"  China derangement syndrome rots people's brains. 

 

China is doing wonders for the globe on revolutionizing green technology in ways that will benefit us all for decades to come. This shouldn't be controversial to recognize let alone have people wishing for China's economy to crumble while Western nations slip back into old ways. 

[Komet]

Sure!

[Trent W]

2 hours ago, Robert said:

Chinese cities look so futuristic and the entire country is cashless and everything is done electronically. My Chinese friend was saying how she can pay for things in Beijing using facial recognition which is kind of scary.

 

The public transport in China is world class though and puts western countries to shame. EVs are also the norm in tier 1 cities like Shanghai.

A cashless society is the end of all freedom.

 

I honestly think China has great advancements and technology but under the CCP it will always be user against the citizen’s freedom and their favor

 

So this is actually really really bad for their citizens 

Edited June 7, 2023 by Trent W

[WBTlove]

The inflation Reduction Act is gonna change that real quick. Another Biden win!

Plus the next industrial revolution will be AI led and the US is far ahead.

[Bosque]

They’re absolutely not, like at all.  I’ll give them credit for doing very well at taking existing Western technology and doing better at perfecting it  than Western countries (see: high speed rail, some military technology, cars, etc.). But they have never ever pioneered globally novel technology and that’s a fact. Looking at AI for example, the leading companies across the entire stack are Nvidia, Microsoft, Google, TSMC and ASML. Not one of them are Chinese. Not surprising when you consider that America is where all the smartest people in the world migrate to. No foreigner at the top of their field globally is clamoring to settle down in China.  
 

It’s very strange to refer to renewable energy as a revolution honestly. Yes, renewable energy is extremely important for the environment, and China is doing a lot to drive deployment of solar and wind. But those are not crazy advanced technologies. In essence they achieve the same thing as burning oil or coal for energy, which we’ve known about for hundreds of years. The actual forefront of research is in Europe (for renewables) and the USA (for nuclear technologies)

Edited June 7, 2023 by Dephira

[jqnetto]

Environmental legends 

 

Sinophobes crying in disbelief as USA and their endless oil-fueled highways keep crambling. 

[Communion]

4 hours ago, Dephira said:

They’re absolutely not, like at all.  I’ll give them credit for doing very well at taking existing Western technology and doing better at perfecting it  than Western countries (see: high speed rail, some military technology, cars, etc.). But they have never ever pioneered globally novel technology and that’s a fact. Looking at AI for example, the leading companies across the entire stack are Nvidia, Microsoft, Google, TSMC and ASML. Not one of them are Chinese. Not surprising when you consider that America is where all the smartest people in the world migrate to. No foreigner at the top of their field globally is clamoring to settle down in China.  
 

It’s very strange to refer to renewable energy as a revolution honestly. Yes, renewable energy is extremely important for the environment, and China is doing a lot to drive deployment of solar and wind. But those are not crazy advanced technologies. In essence they achieve the same thing as burning oil or coal for energy, which we’ve known about for hundreds of years. The actual forefront of research is in Europe (for renewables) and the USA (for nuclear technologies)

THIS RACIST COPIUM 

[Bosque]

14 minutes ago, Communion said:

THIS RACIST COPIUM 

You're not even trying anymore, huh?

[Communion]

24 minutes ago, Dephira said:

You're not even trying anymore, huh?

"China will never be able to create like the West because they're just not as smart"

 

What are you gonna do next, measure their skulls? 

[Bosque]

16 minutes ago, Communion said:

"China will never be able to create like the West because they're just not as smart"

 

What are you gonna do next, measure their skulls? 

Go ahead, disprove any of the things I said with facts and a source. 

 

Pro challenge: Disprove the things I actually said, not the things you made up in your mind

[Sawk]

I’ve seen some of their new cities and they look really cool tbh  I’d love to visit some time, their food is also top tier 

[Ms. Togekiss]

5 hours ago, Dephira said:

They’re absolutely not, like at all.  I’ll give them credit for doing very well at taking existing Western technology and doing better at perfecting it  than Western countries (see: high speed rail, some military technology, cars, etc.). But they have never ever pioneered globally novel technology and that’s a fact. Looking at AI for example, the leading companies across the entire stack are Nvidia, Microsoft, Google, TSMC and ASML. Not one of them are Chinese. Not surprising when you consider that America is where all the smartest people in the world migrate to. No foreigner at the top of their field globally is clamoring to settle down in China.  
 

It’s very strange to refer to renewable energy as a revolution honestly. Yes, renewable energy is extremely important for the environment, and China is doing a lot to drive deployment of solar and wind. But those are not crazy advanced technologies. In essence they achieve the same thing as burning oil or coal for energy, which we’ve known about for hundreds of years. The actual forefront of research is in Europe (for renewables) and the USA (for nuclear technologies)

It's interesting because China has been pumping billions and billions of dollars into technology and R&D (in certain fields they are investing as much as the US and the EU combined) yet in terms of novel technology they still fall short of them, the US particularly. It truly baffles me how much money is being invested yet almost nothing truly revolutionary comes out of it. Even Japan is producing better R&D. What you said about smart people still migrating to the US is true as well. China and India have been trying to stop the massive brain drain which is quite a big issue for them.

 

Some users in here talking out of their asses as usual  Once you are involved in the R&D world and national labs, even in the lower echelons, the gap between the US and the rest of the world in terms of cutting edge research is still massive. The US and the EU/UK are leagues above everyone else, with Japan trailing behind them. China is making great progress, but they really need to stop losing talent to the US (same with India).

[Madonno]

Well, if we look in the long run (human civilizations so far) China has been always a trendsetter.

Gunpowder, paper, etc etc

[Tropez]

On 6/7/2023 at 6:33 PM, Ms. Togekiss said:

It's interesting because China has been pumping billions and billions of dollars into technology and R&D (in certain fields they are investing as much as the US and the EU combined) yet in terms of novel technology they still fall short of them, the US particularly. It truly baffles me how much money is being invested yet almost nothing truly revolutionary comes out of it. Even Japan is producing better R&D. What you said about smart people still migrating to the US is true as well. China and India have been trying to stop the massive brain drain which is quite a big issue for them.

 

Some users in here talking out of their asses as usual  Once you are involved in the R&D world and national labs, even in the lower echelons, the gap between the US and the rest of the world in terms of cutting edge research is still massive. The US and the EU/UK are leagues above everyone else, with Japan trailing behind them. China is making great progress, but they really need to stop losing talent to the US (same with India).

This Western/US centric view is so false. Please look at the world outside of the West. 

[AvadaKedavra]

Sometimes i wonder if i should start learning mandarin so i can grab a piece of the cake too

[Ms. Togekiss]

4 hours ago, Tropez said:

This Western/US centric view is so false. Please look at the world outside of the West. 

Oh I see, another user just talking out of their ass. You do realize that it’s actually beneficial for everyone that China (and India) make huge advancements because that will only push the “West” to invest more money to avoid getting “beat” by them. It’s in this sort of competition/race where novel research flourishes, which is a good thing for everyone

[Sannie]

On 6/7/2023 at 6:44 AM, Robert said:

Chinese cities look so futuristic and the entire country is cashless and everything is done electronically. My Chinese friend was saying how she can pay for things in Beijing using facial recognition which is kind of scary.

 

The public transport in China is world class though and puts western countries to shame. EVs are also the norm in tier 1 cities like Shanghai.

Apple Pay in the US requires Face ID or Touch ID to work. Facial recognition is not "scary", it is a layer of protection for the end user.  

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I lived in China for 18 months and it is a beautiful country with beautiful people. In my experience, they are much kinder and more accepting of foreigners than any American I have come across. Many of them also have a very favorable view of the US, yet if you ask people in the US about China, it is almost always negative. Makes you wonder which side is actually brainwashed.

 

So many people in the US have been brainwashed into thinking China is some kind of oppressive regime and no one is allowed to say or do anything without expressed consent from the government, and it is just not like that. Not at all. People can do whatever they want, whenever they want.  It is truly insane how many people think they know China but have never set foot in the country.

[magazine]

With the amount of pollution they do, they should be