album Nicki Minaj - 'Pink Friday 2'

[D.Va]

40 minutes ago, campelo said:

to show consistency, she was surprised that everybody was thinking this would be delayed a second time, posting the tracklist would show that the project is done and she is not juggling tracks until December, she should tease collabs as well   

 

you are just pressed that she is not managing this era well 

I am not pressed at all, pretty ironic coming from someone who's like "she should do this she should do that". 

It's a Nicki era *****, the FIFTH ONE at that, did you expect to have a pristine Taylor Swift's rollout ? Til we hear this new single, I can't complain. 

[trainsskyscrapers]

2 hours ago, campelo said:

consistency, she was surprised that everybody was thinking this would be delayed a second time, posting the tracklist would show that the project is done and she is not juggling tracks until December, she should tease collabs as well   

 

you are just pressed that she is not managing this era well 

I'm happy that she's thriving on physical sales, but this is one of the messiest eras ever. No tracklist at this point? I'm worried that she's surrounded by "yes men" who don't want to get on her bad side, and she is going through all of this smoke and mirrors to give us a half-baked album of "Rich Sex" and "Bed", which were TRASH but made the album AND became singles.  Can people return pre-ordered physical copies?

 

I would understand if the secrecy was to make a solid project, but nearly everything we have thus far (RRDS, SFG, Big Difference) is nowhere near her best. "Last Time I Saw You" is the closest to her previous creative highs.

[HEAVYONIT]

57 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

I'm happy that she's thriving on physical sales, but this is one of the messiest eras ever

One of the messiest eras ever? The dramatics. This era looks calm af compared to Queen. The album comes out in over a month. Let’s wait and see what happens with the single, track listing, etc…

[Click Clack]

1 hour ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

nearly everything we have thus far (RRDS, SFG, Big Difference) is nowhere near her best. "Last Time I Saw You" is the closest to her previous creative highs.

[trainsskyscrapers]

24 minutes ago, HEAVYONIT said:

One of the messiest eras ever? The dramatics. This era looks calm af compared to Queen. The album comes out in over a month. Let’s wait and see what happens with the single, track listing, etc…

It looks calm because there's no music, nothing charting right now leading up to the album, nobody for you to beef with/mobilize against (because people have cleared the next few months for TSwift / Christmas), and no hot Nicki features blowing up.  PF, PF:RR, PinkPrint, and Queen had all of these a month before their album releases.   All you can do is sit tight and pre-order an album (that might not be cohesive or even good if these lead-up tracks are any indication). I hope I'm wrong and the music delivers. 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Last Time I Pooped is not a creative high pls. It was a cute promo track but Red Ruby still stands as the best single of this era, and the best single she released since chun-li

[HEAVYONIT]

28 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

It looks calm because there's no music, nothing charting right now leading up to the album, nobody for you to beef with/mobilize against (because people have cleared the next few months for TSwift / Christmas), and no hot Nicki features blowing up.  PF, PF:RR, PinkPrint, and Queen had all of these a month before their album releases. 

Barbie World literally was #1 on Pop radio last month, #1 on Spotify, and spent multiple weeks in the top 10...she's definitely been in the public eye still. Yes, it's not related to the album but she'll be fine. I'm sure something will be released soon.

[trainsskyscrapers]

21 minutes ago, houdini said:

Red Ruby still stands as the best single of this era, and the best single she released since chun-li

Say what you want about LTISY (where we heard more of her voice than we usually do, could be used in so many different sync placement opportunities, and should've had a visual), but it has a nice 2014-2018, Post Malone nostalgia to it. At least it didn't sound like an Anaconda re-hash (SFG), have a trash Lil Kim 2023 rhyme scheme* (Big Difference), or age poorly (RRDS).

 

Case in point: Big Difference  If you told me it was from Remy or Kim (this year), I would believe you. She isn't even trying at this point. 

Spoiler

You b****** look up to me
You said you look up to her, but really you look up to me

 

RRDS was a smart concept (in principle), but who told her to include Karl Malone, connecting her to yet another child abuser?  No one on that team has all of their lights on, I swear. That and "That .40 cal'll make 'em dance like a go-go." She thought she would be on the winning team and sided with Tory Lamez (like Drake), but instead picked another Jesy Nelson who will be incarcerated for the next DECADE.  

[D.Va]

you sound stupid

 

and WHEN has an artist released a tracklist ONE MONTH IN ADVANCE ? are y'all insane on top of being stupid ?  

[Afterglow]

I agree LTISY is a creative high. The melodies are amazing and it showed she can still do pawp. But RRDS was also a career creative high as well tbh. Luckily she's able to have many career highs right after the other tbh.

 

 

[Afterglow]

55 minutes ago, D.Va said:

you sound stupid

 

and WHEN has an artist released a tracklist ONE MONTH IN ADVANCE ? are y'all insane on top of being stupid ?  

Well.... to be fair jlo released hers a whole year or possibly two in advance 

[trainsskyscrapers]

1 hour ago, D.Va said:

you sound stupid

 

and WHEN has an artist released a tracklist ONE MONTH IN ADVANCE ? are y'all insane on top of being stupid ?  

I should've been more clear, as I meant "the amount of tracks". Usually when you pre-order a project, you'll see the total amount of tracks, which tracks are clean/explicit, potentially receive an instant grat single, and where the current singles fit into the album's "overall tracklisting". 

 

In terms of recent pre-orders I can remember, Taylor (Midnights, 1989 TV), Beyonce (Renaissance), The Weeknd (Starboy), Blink-182 (One More Time), etc all gave a reasonable indication of the amount of songs/interludes, album length, amount of vault tracks, which songs were explicit, etc.

 

Insane is pre-ordering an album that doesn't even tell you how many songs will be on it or where the singles are located. For an album up on pre-order to not have that yet a month out?  @campelo is right: it looks like they're still trying to throw tracks together.

Stupid is trying to cover for this lackluster roll-out, and act like this is how a major-label musician handles a project after more than 15 years doing this. 

[Click Clack]

 

[Material Girl]

40 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

I should've been more clear, as I meant "the amount of tracks". Usually when you pre-order a project, you'll see the total amount of tracks, which tracks are clean/explicit, potentially receive an instant grat single, and where the current singles fit into the album's "overall tracklisting". 

 

In terms of recent pre-orders I can remember, Taylor (Midnights, 1989 TV), Beyonce (Renaissance), The Weeknd (Starboy), Blink-182 (One More Time), etc all gave a reasonable indication of the amount of songs/interludes, album length, amount of vault tracks, which songs were explicit, etc.

 

Insane is pre-ordering an album that doesn't even tell you how many songs will be on it or where the singles are located. For an album up on pre-order to not have that yet a month out?  @campelo is right: it looks like they're still trying to throw tracks together.

Stupid is trying to cover for this lackluster roll-out, and act like this is how a major-label musician handles a project after more than 15 years doing this. 

this isn’t a pop album like the ones you listed, you really typed all that thinking you’re on to something and you aren’t.

 

if you actually listened to hip hop you’d know it’s normal for tracklists for rap albums to be hidden until the week the album drops at the earliest, if not the same day the album comes out. and rappers are usually making changes to the album up to the last minute 

 

the next person to compare her releases with taylor swift deserves a thread ban, i am so tired

[trainsskyscrapers]

21 minutes ago, Material Girl said:

this isn’t a pop album like the ones you listed, you really typed all that thinking you’re on to something and you aren’t.

 

if you actually listened to hip hop you’d know it’s normal for tracklists for rap albums to be hidden until the week the album drops at the earliest, if not the same day the album comes out. and rappers are usually making changes to the album up to the last minute 

 

the next person to compare her releases with taylor swift deserves a thread ban, i am so tired

Most hip-hop albums aren't out on pre-order with multiple vinyl variants, AI album covers, and different versions available at different retailers.  Don't play obtuse. You can't play the game like a pop act and not expect people to notice the disorganization in comparison to pop acts (or hip-hop acts with sense) able to keep their fanbases "in the know". I listen to rap/hip-hop frequently, and this rollout is unlike any recent Kendrick, Jay-Z, Eminem, Big Sean, or Cole project: It's instead giving Ye, Drake or Travis Scott, who similarly crave mess and last-minute delays/pushbacks to add buzz/attention to their rollouts, making their release hysteria more fun than a majority of the actual music when it finally gets released. Their output has been mediocre lately, and I really hope Nicki doesn't join them.

[Material Girl]

10 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

Most hip-hop albums aren't out on pre-order with multiple vinyl variants, AI album covers, and different versions available at different retailers.  Don't play obtuse. You can't play the game like a pop act and not expect people to notice the disorganization in comparison to pop acts (or hip-hop acts with sense) able to keep their fanbases "in the know". I listen to rap/hip-hop frequently, and this rollout is unlike any recent Kendrick, Jay-Z, Eminem, Big Sean, or Cole project: It's instead giving Ye, Drake or Travis Scott, who similarly crave mess and last-minute delays/pushbacks to add buzz/attention to their rollouts, making their release hysteria more fun than a majority of the actual music when it finally gets released. Their output has been mediocre lately, and I really hope Nicki doesn't join them.

big sean’s last album was delayed by covid and didn’t even have a release date for months, kendrick and j cole’s last albums were basically surprise releases announced with little notice, eminem’s last album was a surprise release, and jay’s last album was a tidal exclusive 6 years ago

 

what exactly are you on about? you sound dumb

 

nicki moves like a rapper and all of her album releases have been messy. get over it 

[trainsskyscrapers]

12 minutes ago, Material Girl said:

nicki moves like a rapper and all of her album releases have been messy. get over it 

I know you know your above statement sounds dumb, and yet you continue to blindly support her in all her foolishness and disorganization.

I hope the third times the charm with these release dates, because I just don't see the prideful Nicki we see today wanting her focus single to compete with Mariah Carey for #1. 

[Material Girl]

11 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

I know you know your above statement sounds dumb, and yet you continue to blindly support her in all her foolishness and disorganization.

I hope the third times the charm with these release dates, because I just don't see the prideful Nicki we see today wanting her focus single to compete with Mariah Carey for #1. 

oh brother just give it up

 

mariah carey hasn’t had a #1 album since 2008. i think we’ll be fine 

[Mornings]

The production on Big Difference in that TikTok snippet sounds much better. The vocal layering is a nice touch. I’m still not a big fan of their shouting the verses though.
 

She kinda confirmed it’s coming with a music video on the 17th in the comments too. 

[ImpressMeMuch]

16 hours ago, Mornings said:

The production on Big Difference in that TikTok snippet sounds much better. The vocal layering is a nice touch. I’m still not a big fan of their shouting the verses though.
 

She kinda confirmed it’s coming with a music video on the 17th in the comments too. 

is there a new snippet or do you just mean the 30s one she used that released back with the VMA performance? 

[Mornings]

1 minute ago, ImpressMeMuch said:

is there a new snippet or do you just mean the 30s one she used that released back with the VMA performance? 

No not a new part of the song. Maybe it was just a new visual? It it does sound more fleshed out to me. I could just be late. But the tea was in the comments 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8SSa6mR/

[ImpressMeMuch]

3 minutes ago, Mornings said:

No not a new part of the song. Maybe it was just a new visual? It it does sound more fleshed out to me. I could just be late. But the tea was in the comments 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8SSa6mR/

ah yeah there's a bit longer version here! 1m rather

 

 

def a new visual there tho 

[BletaRexher]

16 hours ago, Mornings said:

The production on Big Difference in that TikTok snippet sounds much better. The vocal layering is a nice touch. I’m still not a big fan of their shouting the verses though.
 

She kinda confirmed it’s coming with a music video on the 17th in the comments too. 

The production kinda reminds me of Unholy but way harder

[~Start The Music]

https://x.com/nickiminaj/status/1720552121576427561?s=46&t=yOsHZlHV7yyUvjVCjnq0pg
 

 Gurl

[Click Clack]

 

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