GraceRandolph Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cs4HFMDOjB-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Communion Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 Given that the Dems and Biden just okayed unraveling Biden's most popular policy of student debt relief shows why they're essentially not going to let anyone actually debate the now Debt Collector in Chief. 2 1
WildAmerican Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 why are people suddenly surprised by this? there are never debates when a party has an incumbent president running for re-election. yawn, people really don't know anything. Spoiler Not saying I agree with it, but let's not act like this is a new thing 1
TheHanyo Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Communion said: Given that the Dems and Biden just okayed unraveling Biden's most popular policy of student debt relief shows why they're essentially not going to let anyone actually debate the now Debt Collector in Chief. Literal billions of dollars worth of loans have already been forgiven. The REPUBLICAN Supreme Court is trying to stop Biden's Executive Order. The REPUBLICAN-led House refuses to pass anything. Why are you blaming Dems, the only people trying to pass more debt relief? 5 1 2
GraceRandolph Posted June 2, 2023 Author Posted June 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: why are people suddenly surprised by this? there are never debates when a party has an incumbent president running for re-election. yawn, people really don't know anything. Hide contents Not saying I agree with it, but let's not act like this is a new thing Why are people acting like Biden is in the position Obama was in 2012? Things have changed drastically, and just because we didn’t have debates for Obama (2012) or Clinton (1996) doesn’t mean we shouldn’t now.
JoeAg Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 I also thought it was kinda weird and also like... has EVERYONE who's running announced already?¿ cause methinks not lol
WildAmerican Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Why are people acting like Biden is in the position Obama was in 2012? Things have changed drastically, and just because we didn’t have debates for Obama (2012) or Clinton (1996) doesn’t mean we shouldn’t now. i mean if there's a major challenger gaining momentum then there should be debates, but that's clearly not happening. Biden's up by at least 40% in most polls. again not saying i agree, but that's just the realistic situation rn Edited June 2, 2023 by WildAmerican
Communion Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheHanyo said: Literal billions of dollars worth of loans have already been forgiven. Quote Over 2 million borrowers have received $55 billion in student loan forgiveness under a variety of Biden administration student debt relief initiatives, according to the Education Department. Quote Federal student loans make up the vast majority of American education debt—about 92% of all outstanding student loans is federal debt. The federal student loan portfolio currently totals more than $1.6 trillion, owed by about 43 million borrowers. Now sis. 11 minutes ago, TheHanyo said: The REPUBLICAN Supreme Court is trying to stop Biden's Executive Order So why did Democrats just pass a bill that ended the student debt pause when relief is not guaranteed?
FightForTanas Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, TheHanyo said: Literal billions of dollars worth of loans have already been forgiven. The REPUBLICAN Supreme Court is trying to stop Biden's Executive Order. The REPUBLICAN-led House refuses to pass anything. Why are you blaming Dems, the only people trying to pass more debt relief? Exactly, anyone with 2 brain cells knows that Republicans are 100% behind the push to end student debt relief. The 2 lawsuits are literally being filed by Republican backed interest groups. Somehow its always Biden's fault. 2
Bethenny Frankel Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 no primary president debates people in primaries, idk why people are acting like this is new
FameFatale Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 There were no Republican debates for the 2020 election because there was a incumbent Republican president. The RNC also opted out of debates.
onapearl Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 He's not wrong, but we haven't lived under a legitimate democracy in decades, at minimum.
ClashAndBurn Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Bethenny Frankel said: no primary president debates people in primaries, idk why people are acting like this is new Has any other incumbent president been this old and feeble, constantly tripping and falling over stairs and on stages? You're all on copium if you don't realize how vulnerable Biden is to losing in the general due to his age alone. Nor has any incumbent president been so weak that they had MULTIPLE primary opponents declare and poll at double digits. Trump's "opponent" in 2020 never even broke past 1%. Marianne and RFK are much more legitimate than Bill Weld. Obama never had a serious primary challenge, nor did Bush 43 or Clinton. Pat Buchanan revealed the weakness of Bush 41, though. So Biden's situation is similar to that one-term president's than anyone else's. And frankly, when you consider that the unelectable Kamala Harris becomes a factor in people's decision on whom to vote for, people are rightfully nervous about what a Kamala Harris presidency would mean and might not even vote for Biden because of the elevated risk of her ascending in the event of his death. She would be a completely untrustworthy steward of the state and in the pocket of the "career government officials" who've consistently made deeply unpopular decisions. She doesn't even read her intelligence briefings. She is a JOKE. If she were at the top of the ticket in any national election, she would lose BADLY and even the erosion of abortion rights wouldn't save her. 1
Sazare Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 14 hours ago, TheHanyo said: Literal billions of dollars worth of loans have already been forgiven. The REPUBLICAN Supreme Court is trying to stop Biden's Executive Order. The REPUBLICAN-led House refuses to pass anything. Why are you blaming Dems, the only people trying to pass more debt relief? The vast majority of loans that have been forgiven have been from predatory for-profit colleges that have been the subject of lawsuits and have since been shut down. A total drop in the bucket.
Aaron Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Has any other incumbent president been this old and feeble, constantly tripping and falling over stairs and on stages? You're all on copium if you don't realize how vulnerable Biden is to losing in the general due to his age alone. They know, they just obtusely pretend that it doesn’t matter/isn’t relevant or important 1
xDiamondx Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 11:52 PM, FightForTanas said: Exactly, anyone with 2 brain cells knows that Republicans are 100% behind the push to end student debt relief. The 2 lawsuits are literally being filed by Republican backed interest groups. Somehow its always Biden's fault. Considering the man forced the union railworkers back to work, I wouldn't put it past the senile hack to roll back on the student loan debt of which I heard nothing since his initial promise. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, xDiamondx said: Considering the man forced the union railworkers back to work, I wouldn't put it past the senile hack to roll back on the student loan debt of which I heard nothing since his initial promise. Not to mention he intentionally crafted his plan with the weakest defense possible, presumably so it would be easy for the Republicans to halt and destroy via the courts. Simultaneously declaring the pandemic emergency to be over (while thousands of people are still dying weekly) and claiming emergency relief under the HEROES Act was never going to work.
spree Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 just because it has always been this way that an incumbent cannot be challenged doesn't mean it's not time to change that. He's right. This is not a democracy.
Sannie Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 5 hours ago, spree said: just because it has always been this way that an incumbent cannot be challenged doesn't mean it's not time to change that. He's right. This is not a democracy. It is, though. Democracy is what put Biden into power and so they are going to push him again. More than anything, this is about optics. The incumbent party pushing for a new candidate just looks bad, no matter how bad the incumbent may be. The Dems would be shooting themselves in the foot if they tried to push someone else. 1
xDiamondx Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Sannie said: It is, though. Democracy is what put Biden into power and so they are going to push him again. More than anything, this is about optics. The incumbent party pushing for a new candidate just looks bad, no matter how bad the incumbent may be. The Dems would be shooting themselves in the foot if they tried to push someone else. Unfortunately, this is the exact same scenario that happened in Italy a hundred years ago. It's how Mussolini rose to power by how we're seeing an ineffective federal government. An incompetent Head of State will look bad no matter how you spin it, Fascists tend to have zero qualms about taking advantage of that fact. Something I wish Democrats had actual BALLS to fight dirty too. On 6/4/2023 at 11:05 AM, ClashAndBurn said: Not to mention he intentionally crafted his plan with the weakest defense possible, presumably so it would be easy for the Republicans to halt and destroy via the courts. Simultaneously declaring the pandemic emergency to be over (while thousands of people are still dying weekly) and claiming emergency relief under the HEROES Act was never going to work. Every time I read his "bipartisan is back" spiel, what strikes me in every instance is two things: bipartisan is just another way of appealing to Republicans and secondly, he knows full well how weak he is politically. The man has made too many promises in a short brief of span (from his 2020 campaign and the debates) and retracted on his so called unity with unions: see his forcing the railworkers back to work. If he's willing to **** over the rail workers, he's certainly no ally to progressive policies. ETA: For the main topic's purpose, I'm going to add that James Van Der Beek is widely known to be a Republican. So his stances on this particular topic is null and void because of how anti-vaccine he is in general.
WBTlove Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Why do non-democrat feel intitled to even be on the democratic primary ballot? If you ask me, she shouldn't even be allowed to file as a democrat. Go run as an independent, socialist, green party or whatever else they call themselves... Edited June 5, 2023 by WBTlove
Communion Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 Just now, WBTlove said: Why do non-democrat She's not a Democrat? How do you come to said conclusion?
WBTlove Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Communion said: She's not a Democrat? How do you come to said conclusion? Maybe it's the fact that she 1st ran as an independent in 2014 or the fact that she has endorsed multiple independent candidates against democrats over the years They wanna trash democrat 3 years out of 4 and then pretend to be democrats when comes elections time. Go form your own party lady Williamson, we're rocking with Biden... a real lifetime democrat.
Communion Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, WBTlove said: Maybe it's the fact that she 1st ran as an independent in 2014 But people said that voting for third party candidates in 2016 and 2020 was bad and everyone who isn't a Republican should then be a Democrat. Do you not want people to be Democrats? So not voting for Democrats IS fine?
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