discussion Will Millennials be the new Baby Boomers?

[FreeXone]

My parents are gen x and I’m a millennial so I guess I won’t lmao 

[Mordecai]

Doubt it, but even if they do, that conservatism will be relative. They may be conservative in political terms but will be more liberal than conservatives of the past generations (apart from that far right minority that will unfortunately always exist)

[BGKC]

The major difference between boomers and millennials is that boomers were born out of a mostly poor/working class generation that came out of the great depression and world wars. Their parents sacrificed everything to build them (boomers) an endless sea of opportunity full of unions, livable wages, and affordable housing/education. Boomers took advantage of all of that and pulled the ladder up from behind them in the process. This is why they’re obsessed with “working hard” as if working hard is rewarded the same today. They collected and hoarded all the properties (which translates to wealth) and turned the country into a for profit corporation that exploits hard work for the lowest possible price. Millennials for example never lived in an era where housing or education was “affordable” and most of them depend on having wealthy, property owning boomers parents/families to get ahead.
 

Most boomers never had to make 3 times the rent, have a 700 point credit score, or depend on roommates just to approve for an apartment rental the way both Millennials and Gen Z do today. Boomers are the ones that created those requirements. Many of those boomers refuse to show sympathy towards the millennial/gen z struggle because they like to think they worked hard to create this for profit system and fume over young people who complain about it. They’re literally sociopathic and intend to exploit and hoard as much as they can until they die. Millennials on the other hand seem to have more empathy as a whole and understand the financial struggle first hand. I’d like to think they’re more likely to support social programs, affordable healthcare/education and expand on affordable housing, but you never know, greed knows no bounds. I just doubt they’ll ever be as bad as the boomers who dismantled social programs, stigmatized unions, and killed the “American dream” 

Edited May 31, 2023 by BGKC

[JayG]

7 hours ago, loveisdead9582 said:

Trust me. I’ve been looking for ways out. It’s far easier said than done 

What industry(/ies) do you work in?

[JayG]

5 hours ago, BGKC said:

The major difference between boomers and millennials is that boomers were born out of a mostly poor/working class generation that came out of the great depression and world wars. Their parents sacrificed everything to build them (boomers) an endless sea of opportunity full of unions, livable wages, and affordable housing/education. Boomers took advantage of all of that and pulled the ladder up from behind them in the process. This is why they’re obsessed with “working hard” as if working hard is rewarded the same today. They collected and hoarded all the properties (which translates to wealth) and turned the country into a for profit corporation that exploits hard work for the lowest possible price. Millennials for example never lived in an era where housing or education was “affordable” and most of them depend on having wealthy, property owning boomers parents/families to get ahead.
 

Most boomers never had to make 3 times the rent, have a 700 point credit score, or depend on roommates just to approve for an apartment rental the way both Millennials and Gen Z do today. Boomers are the ones that created those requirements. Many of those boomers refuse to show sympathy towards the millennial/gen z struggle because they like to think they worked hard to create this for profit system and fume over young people who complain about it. They’re literally sociopathic and intend to exploit and hoard as much as they can until they die. Millennials on the other hand seem to have more empathy as a whole and understand the financial struggle first hand. I’d like to think they’re more likely to support social programs, affordable healthcare/education and expand on affordable housing, but you never know, greed knows no bounds. I just doubt they’ll ever be as bad as the boomers who dismantled social programs, stigmatized unions, and killed the “American dream” 

Its true. My own dad admitted this to me - that they flopped hard. And that he wish he warned me. And that he'd rather me be happy, than grinding until I die for no reason unless its doing something I love (thankfully I do, so I do work hard). But otherwise? Scam lol.

[Into The Void]

I will inherit property ny parents were very smart with their money but I'm not lol

[Into The Void]

5 hours ago, BGKC said:

The major difference between boomers and millennials is that boomers were born out of a mostly poor/working class generation that came out of the great depression and world wars. Their parents sacrificed everything to build them (boomers) an endless sea of opportunity full of unions, livable wages, and affordable housing/education. Boomers took advantage of all of that and pulled the ladder up from behind them in the process. This is why they’re obsessed with “working hard” as if working hard is rewarded the same today. They collected and hoarded all the properties (which translates to wealth) and turned the country into a for profit corporation that exploits hard work for the lowest possible price. Millennials for example never lived in an era where housing or education was “affordable” and most of them depend on having wealthy, property owning boomers parents/families to get ahead.
 

Most boomers never had to make 3 times the rent, have a 700 point credit score, or depend on roommates just to approve for an apartment rental the way both Millennials and Gen Z do today. Boomers are the ones that created those requirements. Many of those boomers refuse to show sympathy towards the millennial/gen z struggle because they like to think they worked hard to create this for profit system and fume over young people who complain about it. They’re literally sociopathic and intend to exploit and hoard as much as they can until they die. Millennials on the other hand seem to have more empathy as a whole and understand the financial struggle first hand. I’d like to think they’re more likely to support social programs, affordable healthcare/education and expand on affordable housing, but you never know, greed knows no bounds. I just doubt they’ll ever be as bad as the boomers who dismantled social programs, stigmatized unions, and killed the “American dream” 

A 700 credit score really isn't that hard I was down to 580 and am at 750 now. 

[BGKC]

5 hours ago, Insanity said:

A 700 credit score really isn't that hard I was down to 580 and am at 750 now. 

That’s not really the point. The point was credit scores weren’t a thing at all when boomers were buying up homes like nothing throughout the 70s-80s, let alone renting. The working class thrived then. 700 is enough to sign a years lease, but people are still denied loans regardless of good credit all the time when it comes to owning a home. 700 is also the average score, but almost half the population have fair-bad credit (or no credit at all). It’s just a classist system that caters to (mostly white) middle to upper class families and neglects/cripples the working class ones. Especially when you consider the fact that 25% of “good credited” millennials still rely on their middle to upper class parents to help cover rental costs.

Edited May 31, 2023 by BGKC

[BGKC]

5 hours ago, JayG said:

Its true. My own dad admitted this to me - that they flopped hard. And that he wish he warned me. And that he'd rather me be happy, than grinding until I die for no reason unless it’s doing something I love (thankfully I do, so I do work hard). But otherwise? Scam lol.

My mom says the same. She feels guilty about not owning property and raising us in a “broken home” she just wishes she knew ahead of time what the circumstances were going to be for our generation moving forward. The fact that I’m forcing a relationship with my negligent father for his assets feels super bleak, but it’s what I deserve 

Edited May 31, 2023 by BGKC

[JayG]

26 minutes ago, BGKC said:

My mom says the same. She feels guilty about not owning property and raising us in a “broken home” she just wishes she knew ahead of time what the circumstances were going to be for our generation moving forward. The fact that I’m forcing a relationship with my negligent father for his assets feels super bleak, but it’s what I deserve 

Oh honey I'm LITERALLY doing the same with my naricissitic mother as we speak. She ****** me and my sisters lives up with her alcoholism lmao. I want that house chile, in the process of snatching it now. Its not bleak, dont feel guilty, we both deserve it. Thats the LEAST we deserve, we deserve to live the biggest life we can possibly ever dream of. Get that bag sis. I hate being manipulative (cause I'm not at all), but I've had to be a bit recently to sort this out cause I wanna continue doing what I love for the rest of my life. And it IS their fault they didnt think of any of this ****. Its not my fault lol.

Edited May 31, 2023 by JayG

[BGKC]

2 hours ago, JayG said:

Oh honey I'm LITERALLY doing the same with my naricissitic mother as we speak. She ****** me and my sisters lives up with her alcoholism lmao. I want that house chile, in the process of snatching it now. Its not bleak, dont feel guilty, we both deserve it. Thats the LEAST we deserve, we deserve to live the biggest life we can possibly ever dream of. Get that bag sis. I hate being manipulative (cause I'm not at all), but I've had to be a bit recently to sort this out cause I wanna continue doing what I love for the rest of my life. And it IS their fault they didnt think of any of this ****. Its not my fault lol.

Oh yes, we definitely aren’t alone in that, and it’s sad, but it is the least they can do. I also know a lot of boomers like to think they’re not at fault for how their children turned out, let alone a lot of the worlds problems. They see themselves as a faultless generation who blames the worlds problems on young people, immigrants, the “socialist/communist movement” in schools etc etc. It’s a way for them play victim, as if it’s our fault they had to sacrifice so much in order for us to survive. We’re spoiled, entitled, lazy etc because we weren’t raised and flourished in a post world war economic boom where one, working class income comfortably supported a family. 

 

There’s also a lot of decent-good boomers who are happy to provide a healthy, happy life for their kids and grandkids, but yea, for some of us we’re dealing with greedy, sociopathic, narcissists who feel their emotional /physical abuse has nothing to do with the way so many of us millennials turned out. Be it PTSD or crippling depression and/or anxiety. They just trivialize their trauma and call them weak or pathetic. In some cases it may be true, but millennials are still the most productive generation in history. Older generations won’t be able to wrap their minds around that one, but that “lazy” narrative is nonsense.

Edited May 31, 2023 by BGKC

[Haus]

21 hours ago, JayG said:

But seriously, I'm better off freelancing and chasing my dreams = happiness, vitality, health (and MORE MONEY doing things I have talents and passions for). I don't care about what others think of me lmao, the people that do care are the ones that love me and want me to chase what I want out of life... you're better off hustling for what you really want than playing the game which leads to literally nowhere but a false sense of security a corporation provides, a corporation that doesnt give a **** about your health, wellbeing, happiness, family, friends or bank balance

I realized this last fall, and I feel so much better about my new career direction. There is a market for absolutely everything. 

[Kuromi]

Nope.

[JayG]

41 minutes ago, Haus said:

I realized this last fall, and I feel so much better about my new career direction. There is a market for absolutely everything. 

Honey YES. There is a market for EVERYTHING in 2023. Just think about the fact being an EDITOR is a whole ass skillset and career ALONE. An EDITOR.  The possibilites are endless if you're multitalented! Working like 6am - 3pm works PERFECTLY for me cause I can do a million things after work AND work on my own projects/freelance AND get to go to SO many shows/concerts because I'm not working until late. It really is about finding what works for you and sticking to it.

Edited May 31, 2023 by JayG

[JayG]

56 minutes ago, BGKC said:

Oh yes, we definitely aren’t alone in that, and it’s sad, but it is the least they can do. I also know a lot of boomers like to think they’re not at fault for how their children turned out, let alone a lot of the worlds problems. They see themselves as a faultless generation who blames the worlds problems on young people, immigrants, the “socialist/communist movement” in schools etc etc. It’s a way for them play victim, as if it’s our fault they had to sacrifice so much in order for us to survive. We’re spoiled, entitled, lazy etc because we weren’t raised and flourished in a post world war economic boom where one, working class income comfortably supported a family. 

 

There’s also a lot of decent-good boomers who are happy to provide a healthy, happy life for their kids and grandkids, but yea, for some of us we’re dealing with greedy, sociopathic, narcissists who feel their emotional /physical abuse has nothing to do with the way so many of us millennials turned out. Be it PTSD or crippling depression and/or anxiety. They just trivialize their trauma and call them weak or pathetic. In some cases it may be true, but millennials are still the most productive generation in history. Older generations won’t be able to wrap their minds around that one, but that “lazy” narrative is nonsense.

They use the same argument for successful people though as if those people have not worked EXTREMELY ******* hard to get where they are. They didn't magically land there. Bey isn't a legend out of nowhere, just as much as a successful business owner, or a music producer, or whatever isn't either. They WORKED. Talent takes work. The lazy narrative is ******* bullshit. We all have PTSD, trauma etc and if anything, we strive and work even HARDER to make our DREAMS come true instead of settling for the lies we were sold about mortgages, marriage, children etc. You will find a LOT of our parents generation had unfulfilled dreams and didnt have the access/tech/talent to make it happen. They didnt have it easy, no, but they also didnt have it THAT hard when their generation had SO many opportunities to make the RIGHT moves that would have paid off for our generation for life. Being lazy isn't a privelege either by the way lmao, its actually necessary for our wellbeing and creativity. Lazy unfortunately has become a way to gaslight us into feeling we are extremely priveleged/spoilt or unsuccessful when the truth is, we need to be, just as much as I'm sure Bey and all our favs are "lazy" between album cycles/eras. The system they were locked into set them up to flop too. So much **** I didn't see (and wish I didnt see/was ignorant to). Its better to just not know too much to be honest. We should all just strive to chase what brings us alive - it usually leads to professional/personal success. And if ALL us millenials did that, we'd all be THRIVING. I regret ever "healing", being "woke" or wanting to improve myself too. Thats all a lie too. Being myself is what made me successful, and that was never in a corporate setting. I clocked this tea a LONG time ago. Its just not worth dying for, unless its your passion/dream. THAT is worth sacrificing for, and a LOT of us woke up to this in recent years.

Edited May 31, 2023 by JayG

[JayG]

23 hours ago, Pop Life said:

This isn't an argument for or against, but as a millennial it's been wild watching some of my friends fall into the same sort of curmudgeonly boomer mentality we spent our entire youth pushing back against. I keep hearing them complain about "kids these days" and I'm like ***** we were those kids! What is wrong with you

Its hilarious cause we still ARE big kids and our "generation" literally shaped culture for these upcoming "kids". Also age is a number. And also, I dislike the idea of generations. Completely. Age truly is a number and the biggest kids among us "adults" are the ones killing it and shaping/influencing culture (esp music). I would rather be eternally 12 like Mariah says, than "grow up" which is literal scam lmao. I'm 29, I feel 13 most of the time, and thats normal, in fact all our favs are exactly the same. What matters is we never lose our humanity or the kid inside of us - thats when we die as people. Also, what is wrong with "kids these days" lmao. Ew. They're far better than the shitty generations before ours that literally enslaved people.

[Daddy]

I will get a house in a city nobody including me cares about and some motorcycles. So no.