thetea Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 6 hours ago, AMIT said: or we should not judge any working class individual for not wanting to indulge in this predatory, violent and exploitative system we live under? what? being jobless when you're perfectly capable to work and have all of the tools necessary to get a job is bad. why should you live off your family and/or the government because you're too lazy to get your ass up and work.
Robert Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 I was gonna say there are no embarrassing jobs but 6 and 8 made some points.
hypnodemiluv Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 Bartender and dance team member? really!? people are INSANE and without any moral compass. i silently agree with rest of the list but everybody deserves to live without hate and i won't shame them
AMIT Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 6 hours ago, thetea said: what? being jobless when you're perfectly capable to work and have all of the tools necessary to get a job is bad. why should you live off your family and/or the government because you're too lazy to get your ass up and work. You do realize the capitalism system creates artificial barries for workers to make it difficult for them to get jobs, right? Let's please stop shaming working class people altogether, whether they are employed or not. We as a collective don't even need to grow more. We can house and feed EVERYONE. A large part of the jobs out there are complete ****, don't actually make anyone's lives better and/or are simply pointless. STOP. IT.
thetea Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, AMIT said: You do realize the capitalism system creates artificial barries for workers to make it difficult for them to get jobs, right? Let's please stop shaming working class people altogether, whether they are employed or not. We as a collective don't even need to grow more. We can house and feed EVERYONE. A large part of the jobs out there are complete ****, don't actually make anyone's lives better and/or are simply pointless. STOP. IT. you're intentionally misconstruing what i'm saying. i literally said if you have the tools to get a job, then you should. capitalism has nothing to do with this. if you've worked in the past, and have all of the necessary requirements to find a job, then you should work instead of relying on the government and tax payers money. your take reeks of being a chronically online opinion. i don't understand why you're defending unnecessary joblessness as a result of lazy work ethic. i never targeted people who have barriers that prevent them from working with my comment, you chose to interpret it in that way. get some perspective and learn to read comprehensively before making thoughtless comments. i don't know if you feel personally attacked because of a personal lack of a job, and if this is the case, then i'm apologetic for any offence you might have taken.
AMIT Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, thetea said: you're intentionally misconstruing what i'm saying. i literally said if you have the tools to get a job, then you should. capitalism has nothing to do with this. if you've worked in the past, and have all of the necessary requirements to find a job, then you should work instead of relying on the government and tax payers money. your take reeks of being a chronically online opinion. i don't understand why you're defending unnecessary joblessness as a result of lazy work ethic. i never targeted people who have barriers that prevent them from working with my comment, you chose to interpret it in that way. get some perspective and learn to read comprehensively before making thoughtless comments. i don't know if you feel personally attacked because of a personal lack of a job, and if this is the case, then i'm apologetic for any offence you might have taken. How does capitalism have nothing to do with this? Do you hear yourself? It's not a ''chronically online option'', it's an argument that goes against the status quo, which your rethoric is speaking for without you even realizing it. You are the one getting defensive over it. You could not tackle, let alone debunk, any of my claims. This so called ''work ethic'' you keep peddling with is a corporate/capitalist jargon used to control working class people and turn them into mindless cogs in the system. What do you define as ''having all of the necessary requirements to find a job'' exactly? Is a job actually guaranteed for any and everyone but some people are just refusing to take them because they are ''lazy'' as you claim? And if t hat's the case, then is homelessness actually a choice? Because if we take your claim to its logical conclusion it means people at large have no reason or excuse not to work except for their own selves, because the system is at absolutely no fault here. What your take sounds like is that YOU are bitter that you are being exploited under the system and are trying to pass the guilt to other people who refuse to be subjected to that. A literal dividing tactic that benefits the ruling burgeoise class. Please use your brain and do some research, I would be glad to help you with that.
thetea Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 Just now, AMIT said: How does capitalism have nothing to do with this? Do you hear yourself? It's not a ''chronically online option'', it's an argument that goes against the status quo, which your rethoric is speaking for without you even realizing it. You are the one getting defensive over it. You could not tackle, let alone debunk, any of my claims. what exactly are your claims? that capitalism is at fault for people's lack of effort towards finding a job? the capitalist system we live under isn't right, but it's what literally the system everyone lives under right now. what does joblessness have to do with capitalism. people need to or should work for a living instead of living on the money that the government gives them that they got from tax payers. you're literally leeching off tax payers if you choose not to work. 2 minutes ago, AMIT said: This so called ''work ethic'' you keep peddling with is a corporate/capitalist jargon used to control working class people and turn them into mindless cogs in the system. What do you define as ''having all of the necessary requirements to find a job'' exactly? Is a job actually guaranteed for any and everyone but some people are just refusing to take them because they are ''lazy'' as you claim? And if t hat's the case, then is homelessness actually a choice? Because if we take your claim to its logical conclusion it means people at large have no reason or excuse not to work except for their own selves, because the system is at absolutely no fault here. companies aren't the only way that you can work. there's so many types of jobs that live outside of the corporate system that you can do. you're painting the picture that everyone who works a job are "mindless cogs in the system" when that's factually inaccurate. you're selectively choosing facts and jobs which have taken advantage of people, but conveniently ignoring other types of jobs that don't. what exactly do you suppose people should do if we all shouldn't be working according to your mindset? how would society function if no one worked because we are all "being exploited under the system", how would anything get done if everyone "refused to be subject to that". your argument makes no logical sense, until there's change in the way that society functions, how people live, and how people make, then your ideas make no logical sense. 8 minutes ago, AMIT said: What your take sounds like is that YOU are bitter that you are being exploited under the system and are trying to pass the guilt to other people who refuse to be subjected to that. A literal dividing tactic that benefits the ruling burgeoise class. Please use your brain and do some research, I would be glad to help you with that. how am i being exploited by the system. please enlighten me? i choose to be a functioning member of society and pay my own way in the world without leeching off the government. i feel like you've gone on a tangent based on the way that you perceived what i've said, and for that i apologise for any way you may have incorrectly and idiotically interpreted what i've said. 10 minutes ago, AMIT said: Is a job actually guaranteed for any and everyone but some people are just refusing to take them because they are ''lazy'' as you claim? when exactly did I say that everyone was guaranteed a job. If i directly quote what I had previously said - "if you've worked in the past, and have all of the necessary requirements to find a job, then you should work instead of relying on the government and tax payers money". laziness does play a part in global joblessness rates, i did say there were exceptions to this based on people's circumstances but you conveniently ignored that to fit your unique, unpalatable, biassed and non sensical opinion. 12 minutes ago, AMIT said: And if t hat's the case, then is homelessness actually a choice? homelessness is usually not a choice, there are many factors that may lead to homelessness, but again I made no mention of homeless people being lazy and having poor ethic, nor did I discuss marginalised groups and how that may affect them from being able to get a job. my comments were strictly about people who have all of the tools and requirements and circumstances necessary to find jobs, but instead choose to live off the government. please read properly and stop going on tangents based on things i never said.
Phaunzie Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 No job is embarrassing, as long as you making money that all that matters. A job is better than no job.
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