KillingYourCareer Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Monster Megamind said: I'll tell you all what the basic reason for male dominance is. Spotify & apple music with its 5 dollar student offer and it's 15 dollar family offer has really made music accessible to more number of people than before. Even those who couldn't afford 1.29 dollar for a download, think it's worth spending 5 dollar to get the full catalogue at once. And now since this particular years are skewed towards urban music, it will be very difficult for female singers to rise on top. Justin, bruno and Ed Sheeran have a huge male and female fan following so they thrive even now. Even Miley, a streaming artist is peaking at 10. And Alessia Cara with a huge radio support is peaking at 7. Basically now only an out of the world song by a female pop artist could go top 5. Otherwise they'll be lucky to peak at 11 - 15 range like Julia Michaels Issues. I think from now on, 11 - 15 should be the target for female song peak and they should now concentrate on longevity rather than peaks. And try to promote their songs in newer and better ways than just awards shows. And make good videos. Without a solid youtube support, a song will not come anywhere near top 15... That's my 2 cents... That's...sad. I hate this urban trend, it's so boring and monotonous and someone will definitely change the trends completely soon. Remember when Somebody That I Used to Know started the folk-ish craze in 2012 after years of trashy dance pop?
UNNAMI Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 but it's not males fault that they are smashing. seriously what recent female song is good? you want Selena's Bad Liar to smash? that song isn't smash, it's cute, but not good. Camila's lead? That's song is bad. Katy Perry is polarazing people with her new sound, new image, it's good but not GP friendly. It's her choice. Who else?
Roberto Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Not Linkin Park at #30 after hitting #1 the last week. The drop.
QueenofCopyPaste Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, UNNAMI said: but it's not males fault that they are smashing. seriously what recent female song is good? you want Selena's Bad Liar to smash? that song isn't smash, it's cute, but not good. Camila's lead? That's song is bad. Katy Perry is polarazing people with her new sound, new image, it's good but not GP friendly. It's her choice. Who else? Rihanna is definitely the forefront female to benefit streaming
NEZ Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 16 hours ago, iHype. said: It is literally in it's 4th week at #1 Seriously. Lets wait to see if this even makes it to 10 weeks before we even start thinking about mariah.
QueenofCopyPaste Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, DangerousSwiftie said: !!! I completely agree with you (other than dance pop being trashy), someone will come along with a different sound and break the trend and they can't do it soon enough. I'll keep waiting anxiously for this boring urban trend to be over. With streaming growing I think it benefits urban music though...so we're not at its peak dominance yet.
FanOfPop Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 2 hours ago, shadesofcoolxx said: blurryface up from 47 to 41, after more than TWO years 107 weeks of consecutive charting, didn't leave the top 40 for MONTHS, we're ready for tøp5 kings And 161 606 copies sold in 2017 (1 491 549 to date).
QueenofCopyPaste Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 37 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: That's...sad. I hate this urban trend, it's so boring and monotonous and someone will definitely change the trends completely soon. Remember when Somebody That I Used to Know started the folk-ish craze in 2012 after years of trashy dance pop? It's actually Adele w/ Rolling in the Deep in 2011 which pioneered the shift.
Khal Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 7 hours ago, dussymob said: Niall being first member of one direction to score two solo top 40 hits. The kid is here to stay. Isn't he only the 2nd 1D member to even release 2 solo songs to start with?
dussymob Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Khal said: Isn't he only the 2nd 1D member to even release 2 solo songs to start with? I wasn't being shady to other members. I just find him to be the dark horse no one really saw coming.
volition Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, J-boy said: It's actually Adele w/ Rolling in the Deep in 2011 which pioneered the shift. this is not a folk-ish song
QueenofCopyPaste Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, volition said: this is not a folk-ish song but it pioneered the "shift" of Top 40 from dance pop around that time
Bentley Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 @simmnfierzigany predictions for Major Lazer's Know No Better next week?
Green Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Monster Megamind said: I'll tell you all what the basic reason for male dominance is. Spotify & apple music with its 5 dollar student offer and it's 15 dollar family offer has really made music accessible to more number of people than before. Even those who couldn't afford 1.29 dollar for a download, think it's worth spending 5 dollar to get the full catalogue at once. And now since this particular years are skewed towards urban music, it will be very difficult for female singers to rise on top. Justin, bruno and Ed Sheeran have a huge male and female fan following so they thrive even now. Even Miley, a streaming artist is peaking at 10. And Alessia Cara with a huge radio support is peaking at 7. Basically now only an out of the world song by a female pop artist could go top 5. Otherwise they'll be lucky to peak at 11 - 15 range like Julia Michaels Issues. I think from now on, 11 - 15 should be the target for female song peak and they should now concentrate on longevity rather than peaks. And try to promote their songs in newer and better ways than just awards shows. And make good videos. Without a solid youtube support, a song will not come anywhere near top 15... That's my 2 cents... Poor pop girls. It reminds me 2004 but at that time it was radio the one that decided the US charts.
FanOfPop Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 New Peaks: #10 Post Malone ft. Quavo - Contratulations #17 Childish Gambino - Redbone #18 French Montana ft. Swae Lee - Unforgettable #20 Ayo & Teo - Rolex #31 Jason Derulo ft. Nicki Minaj & Ty Dolla $ign - Swalla #33 Niall Horan - Slow Hands #41 A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie ft. Kodak Black - Drowning #44 Migos ft. Gucci Mane - Slippery #47 YFN Lucci ft. PnB Rock - Everyday We Lit #49 Playboi Carti - Magnolia #52 Florida Georgia Line ft. Backstreet Boys - God, Your Mama, And Me #53 Darius Rucker - If I Told You #57 Tee Grizzley - First Day Out #63 Dan + Shay - How Not To #64 Dylan Scott - My Girl #66 Chris Brown - Privacy #67 Blake Shelton - Every Time I Hear That Song #70 Maluma - Felices Los 4 #71 Midland - Drinkin' Problems #73 Cole Swindell - Flatliner #75 Hailee Steinfeld - Most Girls #83 Shakira - Me Enamoré #86 AJR - Weak New Entries: #74 Bryson Tiller - Somethin Tells Me #85 Bryson Tiller - Self-Made #88 Gucci Mane ft. Offset - Met Gala #89 Bryson Tiller - Don't Get Too High #90 Old Dominion - No Such Thing As A Broken Heart #91 Bryson Tiller - Run Me Dry #94 Martin Garrix x Troye Sivan - There For You #98 Bryson Tiller - No Longer Friends #99 Travis Scott - Butterfly Effect #100 Halsey ft. Lauren Jauregui - Strangers Re-Entries: #80 Lil Yachty ft. Migos - Peek-A-Boo #83 Shakira - Me Enamoré Drop-Outs: 18 weeks: Jason Aldean - Any Ol' Barstool 15 weeks: Katy Perry ft. Skip Marley - Chained To The Rhythm 9 weeks: Nicky Jam - El Amante 8 weeks: Machine Gun Kelly ft. Hailee Steinfeld - At My Best 3 weeks: Zac Brown Band - My Old Man 3 weeks: Enrique Iglesias ft. Descemer Bueno, Zion & Lennox - Subeme La Radio 2 weeks: Calvin Harris ft. Future & Khalid - Rollin 2 weeks: Chris Stapleton - Either Way 1 week: Lauren Duski - Deja Vu 1 weeks: Chris Blue - Money On You 1 week: Lauren Duski - The Dance 1 week: Lee Brice - Boy Biggest Jumps: + 20 Malume - Felices Vol 4 (#90 - #70) + 19 Niall Horan - Slow Hands (#52 - #33) + 11 Ayo & Teo - Rolex (#31 - #20) + 10 AJR - Weak (#96 - #86) + 9 Playboi Carti - Magnolia (#58 - #49) + 9 Dylan Scott - My Girl (#73 - #64) + 8 Florida Georgia Line ft. Backstreet Boys - God, Your Mama, And Me (#60 - #52) + 8 Blake Shelton - Every Time I Hear That Song (#75 - #67) + 8 Cole Swindell - Flatliner (#81 - #73) Biggest Falls: - 32 Katy Perry ft. Nicki Minaj - Swish Swish (#46 - #78) - 29 Katy Perry ft. Migos - Bon Appétit (#67 - #96) - 23 Liam Payne ft. Quavo - Strip That Down (#42 - #65) - 18 Selena Gomez - Bad Liar (#27 - #45) - 14 Camila Cabello - Crying In The Club (#47 - #61) - 14 Kendrick Lamar - ELEMENT. (#83 - #97) Most Weeks In Top 100: 44 weeks: The Chainsmokers ft. Halsey - Closer 40 weeks: Alessia Cara - Scars To Your Beautiful 34 weeks: Bruno Mars - 24K Magic 32 weeks: James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go 29 weeks: Migos ft. Lil Uzi Vert - Bad And Boujee 29 weeks: Travis Scott - Goosebumps 26 weeks: Childish Gambino - Redbone 26 weeks: Clean Bandit ft. Sean Paul & Anne-Marie - Rockabye 24 weeks: Rae Sremmurd - Swang 23 weeks: Post Malone ft. Quavo - Congratulations 23 weeks: KYLE ft. Lil Yachty - iSpy
simmnfierzig Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 21 minutes ago, Bentley said: @simmnfierzigany predictions for Major Lazer's Know No Better next week? Around #60 or something
B-Rabbit Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, DangerousSwiftie said: I don't think streaming necessarily is favoring urban music, that's just what's popular right now. It just so happened that streaming became prominent at the same time that urban music began to become prominent. Just looking at 2014/2015, when pop was still the dominant genre, the music videos by the pop girls from then have tons of views. They were benefitting from streaming back then too. The music trends just changed in favor of urban music, I don't think streaming itself favors the urban genre/audience. Urban music was always very big. It was just hit the hardest by far from pirating. It's not that urban is that much bigger than before, it's that streaming leveled the playing fields for commercial success
badgirlriri Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 18 hours ago, fridayteenage said: let's investigate that claim by looking at t3 hits' lead artists: 2010: female 123456789012 = 12 f+m 1234 male 123456789012 = 12 (tie) 2011: male 123456789 female 1234567890123 = 13 (winning by 44%) both 1 2012: female 12345678901 = 11 male 12345678901234 = 14 (winning by 27%) 2013: male 1234567890123 = 13 (winning by 86%) female 1234567 2014: female 12345678901 = 11 (winning by 22%) male 123456789 2015: female 123 male 1234567890123 = 13 (winning by 333%) 2016: male 12345678901234 = 14 (winning by 367%) female 123 2017: male 12345678 both 1 female 0 overall totals: male 92, female 60. males win by 53%. so in 2.5 years, only 7 songs with a female lead have gone t3. the weakest year so far this decade for males was 9. quick look at 2001-2009: males lead by 1 song, males lead by 4, males lead by 8, males lead by 9, males lead by 1, males lead by 9, males lead by 7, tie, males lead by 6. not seeing this female domination you speak of. Well objectively I suppose males have done better, but personally my playlist has been mostly all- female these last few years, but this year the males have really delivered for me.
Loyalty Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 54 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Around #60 or something Do you think "Bad Liar" will rise or fall next week Edited June 6, 2017 by Kathlen
alestevens Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Whew Maluma already succeeding with this crossover era before the English stuff even comes out
RihsusChrist(ATG) Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 49 minutes ago, B-Rabbit said: Urban music was always very big. It was just hit the hardest by far from pirating. It's not that urban is that much bigger than before, it's that streaming leveled the playing fields for commercial success Thank goodness my fave Rih can transition music genres with ease.
Jred Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 347 + 447. Don't Look Back In Anger Surprised this didn't get a bigger boost from Manchester, it's iconic. It's #8 on UK iTunes
Tremor Christ Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 2 hours ago, ChartsFan said: How would they rank 41-200 if a bunch all near the bottom were zero per week. but I agree. It's one of their signature charts. They will do everything they can to keep it alive, it is just sad seeing the demise of the album. A fifty year old album outselling the top two, after already having many releases and selling millions of copies. People will say well sales are dead, but clearly they are not, at least with the right products. ??? it was reissued for its 50th anniversary and it was a big event. ???
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