base talk Bigger Peak: Lady Gaga vs Taylor Swift

[GipJo]

5 minutes ago, Steve Johnson said:

You really think Gaga has same relevance as Taylor these days? 

Do you only know music or do you know relevance comes from all social aspects? Musically she is not that relevant compares to Taylor, but she succeed in other areas that Taylor just don't, if you think Gaga is not relevant in pop culture or just culture in general, you must be delusional.

 

OT:

The question is who has the bigger peak, anyone who lived through 09-11 knows how big she was, I don't know why swifties keep mentioning multiple albums charting like it's a definitive proof that it's the biggest achievement ever. From my perspective, Gaga in TF/M was so big that almost everyone I know in my life knew her, from my grandma to my middle school classmates, mind you I lived in a countryside of conservative China during that time, that alone could tell you how far her name spread. I remembered all the middle schoolers used ''oh my gaga'' instead of ''oh my god'' as a catch phrase. Her songs was played everyday in my school radio station.

[Axelios]

1 minute ago, FSXP said:

US: Taylor 

WW: Gaga

 

I think Taylor’s peak in the US both times were bigger than Gaga. 1989 and Fearless both were inescapable in a way that I don’t think TF/TFM we’re here. But WW,  Gaga is definitely bigger.

I agree with this. Taylor never had the same global peak as Gaga. It doesn't help that Taylor peaked in different regions at different eras like Midnights being her biggest in mainland Europe but no as big as 1989 in anglo countries for example.

[Jjang]

Gaga had a bigger peak. So did other stars like Britney. Taylor’s consistency clears them with ease however. 

[Rep2000]

17 minutes ago, byzantium said:

Let the monsters have this one.  They don’t have much else.  

yeah, we all know Taylor has this in the bag.

What's gonna happen now is that we are gonna use facts and reality to prove it's Taylor. Then they are gonna cry about how "stats obsessed" we are while moaning about "IMPACT!" "Iconic!" etc and use some elusive European country to prove how "big" Gaga is *to them*. Tales as old as time.

[Sannie]

I think in terms of success it is Taylor.

 

In terms of overall impact/global hold, it is Gaga. It has been over a decade so it is hard to remember, but the hold Gaga had on the entire world at her peak was unmatched by anyone in the past nearly thirty years.

 

Both Queens in 2023. Both living their best lives.

[bringdanoize]

39 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Shallow was just a fluke.

ARUTW is approaching 1b on Spotify, when was the last Taylor’s single with 1b? 

Edited May 19, 2023 by bringdanoize

[Axelios]

5 minutes ago, bringdanoize said:

ARUTW is approaching 1b on Spotify, when was the last Taylor’s single with 1b? 

Cardigan, Anti Hero, Cruel Summer and Lover should all reach 1b this year.

[bringdanoize]

7 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Cardigan, Anti Hero, Cruel Summer and Lover should all reach 1b this year.

so how Shallow can be a fluke when after that were two songs that approaching 1b?

[byzantium]

48 minutes ago, bringdanoize said:

ARUTW is approaching 1b on Spotify, when was the last Taylor’s single with 1b? 

Oh so you want to talk about Spotify streaming numbers? 

[Popboi.]

42 minutes ago, byzantium said:

Oh so you want to talk about Spotify streaming numbers? 

Let them 

 

 

[Steve Johnson]

2 hours ago, Popboi. said:

Let them 

 

 

The massacre 

[greento]

Gaga has never been as big as Taylor is right now. 1989 era Taylor was basically equivalent to TFM Gaga as well

[Mystic Boy]

4 hours ago, greento said:

Gaga has never been as big as Taylor is right now. 1989 era Taylor was basically equivalent to TFM Gaga as well

In your wildest dreams

[Rayaine]

Taylor

[blackoutbritney]

I’m a little monster and hate Taylor Swift and even I can agree that Taylor is leaps and bounds the bigger peak. She has a bigger peak than most artists make or female 

[UnusualBoy]

Gaga’s peak 2009-2011 is almost untouchable so her.

[FightDragonsWithMe]

The difference between Taylor & Gaga is Taylor isn't tied down to one peak. Y'all trying to make that out as a bad thing are weird 

Edited May 21, 2023 by FightDragonsWithMe

[dejmieeen]

Obviously Gaga. She was IT GIRL in 2008-2010, Taylor never touched her peak, even tho her longevity is insane.

[Cryptique]

TAYLOR is peaking currently?? lmfao 

 

GIRL is never toucing the impact of 1989 let alone The Fame Monster ERA

[Cryptique]

32 minutes ago, blackoutbritney said:

I’m a little monster and hate Taylor Swift and even I can agree that Taylor is leaps and bounds the bigger peak. She has a bigger peak than most artists make or female 

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[Cryptique]

On 5/20/2023 at 1:08 AM, greento said:

Gaga has never been as big as Taylor is right now. 1989 era Taylor was basically equivalent to TFM Gaga as well

I have to laugh 

[Mystic Boy]

The poll should ve been public

[Raspberries]

On 5/19/2023 at 1:26 AM, thetea said:

she's used so many gimmicks. 

not to mention how she constantly claims things are limited, but then releases more copies in the following weeks 

 

Chromatica had multiple vinyl variants, merch bundles for merch that ended up being cancelled, signed copies, etc 

 

ARTPOP had variants and "limited" foil copies (that you can still buy 10 years later)

 

Born This Way had entire buildings and subway trains dedicated to it for marketing. And then the album was sold for the price of a pack of gum 

 

yet 0 of them are bigger than most Taylor eras

 

can you please explain why? 

[Natawie]

1 hour ago, Mystic Boy said:

The poll should ve been public

Trust me you don't want to see the amount of dupe accounts who voted for Lady GaGa 

 

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Taylor by far.

[Mystic Boy]

44 minutes ago, Natawie said:

Trust me you don't want to see the amount of dupe accounts who voted for Lady GaGa 

 

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Taylor by far.

Surely not more than OGHs dupe accounts