Hurem Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Baby Lasagna's arrival to Zagreb Nemo's arrival to Switzerland I'm sorry but this is cracking me up Baby Lasagna truly the real winner of Eurovision 2024 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dante Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, Hurem said: Baby Lasagna's arrival to Zagreb Nemo's arrival to Switzerland I'm sorry but this is cracking me up Baby Lasagna truly the real winner of Eurovision 2024 Bambie Thug's arrival 1 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getinthezone Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 14 minutes ago, Hurem said: Baby Lasagna's arrival to Zagreb Nemo's arrival to Switzerland I'm sorry but this is cracking me up Baby Lasagna truly the real winner of Eurovision 2024 the amount of hate ive seen from swiss people on twitter, not surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anthinos Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Nemo has received a lot of support from politicians and various major and even conservative media sites. German news sites are also writing about their victory and are surprisingly positive. I would have thought that the conservative sites would tear them apart but they are very supportive and respectful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fa77ot Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 17 minutes ago, BOOM! said: tell them queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crashed Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 utterly surreal 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igninton Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 This queen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocity Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 50 minutes ago, BOOM! said: i am actually crying from laughter lmao QUEEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skestina Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 52 minutes ago, BOOM! said: , why does this account have me blocked on twitter tho? never interacted with them 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, LewisK said: Still in disbelief about Spain's and Austria televote results... Any clue? Both came in around 11th-13th spot in voting in 9/10 countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocity Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, LewisK said: Still in disbelief about Spain's and Austria televote results... Any clue? i wish they both did better but i guess it didn't resonate with the GP. i personally think that the fact that a lot of people focused their votes onto a handful of songs in order to sabotage israel definitely didn't help and cost them quite a few points 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmelaugh Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 7 hours ago, Fevesy said: I said it before and I'll say it again. I feel like one of the Little Mix girls is coming to represent the UK next year since they are all starting their solo careers and they're all kinda flopping. Well, maybe not now cause Olly is getting lashed. Jesy Nelson is coming for 2nd highest UK televote score this decade. I just know she would slay with Bad Thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 It's kicking OFF again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamil24 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 42 minutes ago, gimmelaugh said: I just know she would slay with Bad Thing she could win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I'm gonna try to sum up my thoughts why Croatia would have been a better winner, without being negative about Nemo. Let's start with the whole story. We've heard it a billion times, but in the ocean of manufactured PR stories that different countries try to push, this was truly the perfect and organic story. An unknown guy who was only a backup in the national final because of the corruption and nepotism within the Croatian music industry goes on to win the public vote at Eurovision. Not only that, but his entire team was made up of young people who have never worked on any big projects before. Rim Tim Tagi Dim soon enough became the obvious public's favorite. It won almost every Eurovision poll and was leading in the odds for almost the entire season. Now we get to the results. It won the televote with 337 points, despite having only 9 sets of 12 points (compared to Israel's 15 sets of 12 points). In 4 countries (plus the Rest of the World) where it got 8 points, the top two spots were taken by Israel and Ukraine. In every country that gave RTTD 10 points, except for Ukraine, 12 points went to either Israel or Ukraine. I'm not a fan of should've, could've, would've talk, but I can't shake off the feeling that without the political situations, it might've gotten a higher televote result than Kaarija and Salvador Sobral. It ultimately lost because Nemo landslided the juries. Some of you argue that we should be thankful because they stopped Israel from winning, but if that was their sole purpose, why couldn't they give more points to the clear favorite and ensure he won? Wasn't it riskier to try to push someone who was fourth in the semi for the win? I do agree that Nemo deserved to win the jury vote, I just don't think it was fair to give him an unbeatable advantage. Some are happy that Nemo won, despite him placing only fifth with the public, arguing that songs like Rim Tim Tagi Dim would make the contest lose its credibility. I understand wanting your favorite to win, but isn't the fact that the public has virtually no say in choosing the winner actually the thing that's ruining the competition? Jury should be there as a corrective, not as an entity that gets to choose winners every year. Additionally, wanting Nemo to win over Baby Lasagna simply because they are non-binary is literally feeding into the theories of Eurovision primarily being used as a tool to promote certain ideologies, making the music completely secondary. Croatia's win would've been a better outcome for the contest because the public would feel heard, especially after last year's backlash. Furthermore, we would potentially get some Eastern countries back into the competition. The way he lost only deepens the theories that juries are there to ensure that the rich countries get the top spot (something that Österdahl basically confirmed in a recent interview). Everything about Switzerland's entry feels manufactured, The Code was a project that was made solely to win the Eurovision. This discredits its success by any means, but it definitely raises a question of whether authenticity is appreciated at all? Finally, the hype around Baby Lasagna in Croatia is something unheard of. I don't expect others to understand, but I've never experienced this type of collective excitement, nor do I think I will ever see it again. He and his song are literally everywhere. Everyone and their moms have taken out their doilies in support of Rim Tim Tagi Dim, even the police dogs (I'm not even joking). Despite a lot of ideological differences in society, he actually made Croatia united by music. 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 25 minutes ago, Hurem said: I'm gonna try to sum up my thoughts why Croatia would have been a better winner, without being negative about Nemo. Let's start with the whole story. We've heard it a billion times, but in the ocean of manufactured PR stories that different countries try to push, this was truly the perfect and organic story. An unknown guy who was only a backup in the national final because of the corruption and nepotism within the Croatian music industry goes on to win the public vote at Eurovision. Not only that, but his entire team was made up of young people who have never worked on any big projects before. Rim Tim Tagi Dim soon enough became the obvious public's favorite. It won almost every Eurovision poll and was leading in the odds for almost the entire season. Now we get to the results. It won the televote with 337 points, despite having only 9 sets of 12 points (compared to Israel's 15 sets of 12 points). In 4 countries (plus the Rest of the World) where it got 8 points, the top two spots were taken by Israel and Ukraine. In every country that gave RTTD 10 points, except for Ukraine, 12 points went to either Israel or Ukraine. I'm not a fan of should've, could've, would've talk, but I can't shake off the feeling that without the political situations, it might've gotten a higher televote result than Kaarija and Salvador Sobral. It ultimately lost because Nemo landslided the juries. Some of you argue that we should be thankful because they stopped Israel from winning, but if that was their sole purpose, why couldn't they give more points to the clear favorite and ensure he won? Wasn't it riskier to try to push someone who was fourth in the semi for the win? I do agree that Nemo deserved to win the jury vote, I just don't think it was fair to give him an unbeatable advantage. Some are happy that Nemo won, despite him placing only fifth with the public, arguing that songs like Rim Tim Tagi Dim would make the contest lose its credibility. I understand wanting your favorite to win, but isn't the fact that the public has virtually no say in choosing the winner actually the thing that's ruining the competition? Jury should be there as a corrective, not as an entity that gets to choose winners every year. Additionally, wanting Nemo to win over Baby Lasagna simply because they are non-binary is literally feeding into the theories of Eurovision primarily being used as a tool to promote certain ideologies, making the music completely secondary. Croatia's win would've been a better outcome for the contest because the public would feel heard, especially after last year's backlash. Furthermore, we would potentially get some Eastern countries back into the competition. The way he lost only deepens the theories that juries are there to ensure that the rich countries get the top spot (something that Österdahl basically confirmed in a recent interview). Everything about Switzerland's entry feels manufactured, The Code was a project that was made solely to win the Eurovision. This discredits its success by any means, but it definitely raises a question of whether authenticity is appreciated at all? Finally, the hype around Baby Lasagna in Croatia is something unheard of. I don't expect others to understand, but I've never experienced this type of collective excitement, nor do I think I will ever see it again. He and his song are literally everywhere. Everyone and their moms have taken out their doilies in support of Rim Tim Tagi Dim, even the police dogs (I'm not even joking). Despite a lot of ideological differences in society, he actually made Croatia united by music. The key here is the fact that all this is set against the backdrop of the Israel issue which underlined everything. Ultimately the EBU's lack of leadership let this Eurovision be dominated completely by politics. Switzerland might have gotten less jury votes if not for the fact that Israel looked primed to win the popular vote. Croatia might have done better in the tele vote if not for Israel sucking up so much air. Then there is the whole issue of the Netherlands which throw further throws a wrench in the whataboutism. Between Switzerland and Croatia, I personally did not care, but I don't think one can use this year to draw conclusions about structural changes to the point system. This year should instead be used to spark conversation about how to avoid having the contest be completely overshadowed by politics again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevesy Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I wrote an essay but no one wants to read all that so I'll sum it up quickly Of course happy Switzerland won - voted 12x Switzerland, 7x Croatia and 1x Ukraine in the end Nemo's performance is one of the most impressive things done at Eurovision Televote should have more sway Jury sequence the last two years has been boring, this year even more than last even as a Switzerland stan Baby Lasagna would have been a great winner also and probably more beneficial for public opinion of the contest, especially in Eastern countries Baby Lasagna's story from going to 7 monthly listeners on Spotify and on the reserve list at Dora is amazing Seeing how he evolved as a performer from Dora where he was super nervous and slightly awkward to how he performed on the Eurovision stage is also great and inspiring Bambie talent and proud to have voted for them in the Irish NF and the semis. Hope Ireland get a fully produced NF instead of patched onto the Late Late Show 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funhouse Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 This result is so funny actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmelaugh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Unfortunately Eurovision will always be political... the very idea of countries (political entities) competing with each other will always bring up the politics talk and make the music an afterthought for many viewers. We will never fully escape it but I do hope it will be less evident in the next years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funhouse Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Left 2 comments containing the word "Israel" on r/eurovision and they both got hidden automatically Edited May 14 by Funhouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, Funhouse said: Left 2 comments containing the word "Israel" on r/eurovision and they both got hidden automatically Hmm, maybe they are onto something. Maybe we should remove Israel from Eurovision altogether! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlue Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Luna result is so bad nnnn help. Only leftovers from polish diaspora It's time for another ballad Edited May 14 by BlueBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funhouse Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Poland should give the people what they want (terrible graphic overlays) Notice how Ochman and pop princess Blanka made it to the final while Luna and her LED floor horse didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmelaugh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Poland should just keep sending Blanka every year until she wins 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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