elvenOCEAN Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 25 minutes ago, Kummercell said: We've had "regular" gays being represented before (Ireland 2018), and guess what? The backlash was still the same. The performance was censored in Russia, several conservative media sites all over Europe were throwing the "they're trying to shove it in our faces!!!" argument and to this day China still hasn't returned to broadcasting the contest. And that was just two guys dancing and hugging! Yet, Eurovision stood by letting their queer participants do their thing and showcase their truth. And no, they're not special, and that's a good thing about Eurovision. Eurovision is the only major cultural event in the world that gives queer people a chance to be unapologetically ourselves, and it actually rewards us for doing so. When was the last time a queer man won a Best Actor Oscar? We've had two queer men in the top 2 in 2019. The last non-straight woman to win an Oscar was in 1995, yet a bisexual woman won Eurovision just last year. A trans woman hadn't won a Grammy until last years ceremony, but a trans woman won Eurovision in the 1990s. Eurovision has a predominantly queer fanbase and it stands by its fanbase. Sure, Eurovision has (a lot of) problems, but as someone who found this contest and community as a lonely 11 year old gay boy more than a decade ago, it truly is a remarkable thing for queer people all over the world and we shouldn't take it for granted. And? Literally so what. How many other straight etc. people haven't been properly recognised/awarded.
Kummercell Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 10 minutes ago, elvenOCEAN said: And? Literally so what. How many other straight etc. people haven't been properly recognised/awarded. I genuinely do not care about straight people. If they feel like they're not getting enough recognition they're free to make their own heterosexual-only Eurovision
velocity Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 6 hours ago, fa77ot said: did anyone got tickets for Joost? I was there at 2PM and they were sold out in seconds I got some and i'm so excited. there's tickets left for vienna if you want to travel 4 hours ago, Anthinos said: There is also a gif but I don't want to get a warning point asldjfsd i want to see, send please
Hurem Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 Unlike EBU, we believe in transparency, so here is the full breakdown of how every one of you voted. Click here for the detailed results Once again, congratulations to the winner @LionH3art Spoiler @bkglk @blown away @original_lifeline @KillingYourCareer @nasa @noahfence @Atlantis @Dante @nadiamendell @Hurem @killer_rose @khalyan @Cholien @MALAMENTE @POPTART @Fevesy @Solaria @elvenOCEAN @fiercE @Lil Mxnster @Sheegs @Pendulum @EnterTheAttic @Mezik @PerfectCure @chessguy99 @Funhouse @abelfenty @little legend @LionH3art @thismoment @JennyWayne @illia @igninton @*Tim @Psycho 7
Pendulum Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 (edited) not me flopping in all categories, yet I still coming second when all the results are combined my Nemo tea Edited May 14, 2024 by Pendulum
Danai G Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, *Tim said: Oh, EBU, you are in shambles...
Danai G Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 I am sorry guys but am I the only who believes that Loreen was paid DUST by SVT? She is literally the only woman to win twice in Eurovision, she has one of the biggest European hits of all time, Tattoo was a smash too and she brought the seventh win to Sweden. She appeared less times than Charlotte Perrelli, her interval act felt a little bit messy (and low budget, not gonna lie...) and it seems like they completely brushed off her achievements. Not to mention that Forever did nothing on Spotify, the streaming numbers are a little bit disappointing in my opinion. I really hope that she won't fade into oblivion... 3
abelfenty Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 My ranking of all the winners this century: 1. 🇮🇹 Zitti e Buoni 2. 🇦🇹 Rise Like A Phoenix 3. 🇷🇸 Molitva 4. 🇺🇦 Wild Dances 5. 🇸🇪 Euphoria 6. 🇳🇴 Fairytale 7. 🇬🇷 My Number One 8. 🇸🇪 Heroes 9. 🇹🇷 Everyway That I Can 10. 🇺🇦 1944 11. 🇸🇪 Tattoo 12. 🇩🇰 Fly on the Wings of Love 13.🇨🇭The Code 14. 🇮🇱 Toy 15. 🇺🇦 Stefania 16. 🇩🇰 Only Teardrops 17. 🇱🇻 I Wanna 18. 🇳🇱 Arcade 19. 🇩🇪 Satellite 20. 🇫🇮 Hard Rock Hallelujah 21. 🇦🇿 Running Scared 22. 🇵🇹 Amar pelos dois 23. 🇷🇺 Believe 24. 🇪🇪 Everybody
Kummercell Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, Danai G said: I am sorry guys but am I the only who believes that Loreen was paid DUST by SVT? She is literally the only woman to win twice in Eurovision, she has one of the biggest European hits of all time, Tattoo was a smash too and she brought the seventh win to Sweden. She appeared less times than Charlotte Perrelli, her interval act felt a little bit messy (and low budget, not gonna lie...) and it seems like they completely brushed off her achievements. Not to mention that Forever did nothing on Spotify, the streaming numbers are a little bit disappointing in my opinion. I really hope that she won't fade into oblivion... Other than giving her a longer interval performance, I don't see what else SVT could've done. She released a single song in the year after her win, and Tattoo was her biggest hit outside of Europe, yet no album is even on sight. Loreen just keeps screwing up every single career opportunity she gets 4
JennyWayne Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 43 minutes ago, Hurem said: Unlike EBU, we believe in transparency, so here is the full breakdown of how every one of you voted. Click here for the detailed results Once again, congratulations to the winner @LionH3art Hide contents @bkglk @blown away @original_lifeline @KillingYourCareer @nasa @noahfence @Atlantis @Dante @nadiamendell @Hurem @killer_rose @khalyan @Cholien @MALAMENTE @POPTART @Fevesy @Solaria @elvenOCEAN @fiercE @Lil Mxnster @Sheegs @Pendulum @EnterTheAttic @Mezik @PerfectCure @chessguy99 @Funhouse @abelfenty @little legend @LionH3art @thismoment @JennyWayne @illia @igninton @*Tim @Psycho Crazy how only one person predicted Latvia would qualify Yet Norway, which was almost a universal qualifier, barely made it
karma police Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 Grito is growing on me massively since the final 1
Lana Banana Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 32 minutes ago, Danai G said: I am sorry guys but am I the only who believes that Loreen was paid DUST by SVT? She is literally the only woman to win twice in Eurovision, she has one of the biggest European hits of all time, Tattoo was a smash too and she brought the seventh win to Sweden. She appeared less times than Charlotte Perrelli, her interval act felt a little bit messy (and low budget, not gonna lie...) and it seems like they completely brushed off her achievements. Not to mention that Forever did nothing on Spotify, the streaming numbers are a little bit disappointing in my opinion. I really hope that she won't fade into oblivion... They also couldn't gather ABBA for their anniversary after rigging Loreen's win. So what do you think they can do? Literally nothing.
Antinemesis Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 Not sure if AP but allegedly 15 different broadcasters agreed to disqualify Joost. I haven't paid to read the full thing, though. https://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/schlagerbloggen/2024/05/har-tycks-ebu-fullstandigt-saga-nederlandska-versionen-dessutom-15-olika-tv-bolag-med-i-beslutet-att-diska-joost-klein/ 35 minutes ago, Danai G said: I am sorry guys but am I the only who believes that Loreen was paid DUST by SVT? She is literally the only woman to win twice in Eurovision, she has one of the biggest European hits of all time, Tattoo was a smash too and she brought the seventh win to Sweden. She appeared less times than Charlotte Perrelli, her interval act felt a little bit messy (and low budget, not gonna lie...) and it seems like they completely brushed off her achievements. Not to mention that Forever did nothing on Spotify, the streaming numbers are a little bit disappointing in my opinion. I really hope that she won't fade into oblivion... She was supposed to perform with Johnny Logan in semi 1 but she dropped out. There's been mixed information, though, as her manager claimed she never intended to perform outside of the final.
Hurem Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 30 minutes ago, Danai G said: I am sorry guys but am I the only who believes that Loreen was paid DUST by SVT? She is literally the only woman to win twice in Eurovision, she has one of the biggest European hits of all time, Tattoo was a smash too and she brought the seventh win to Sweden. She appeared less times than Charlotte Perrelli, her interval act felt a little bit messy (and low budget, not gonna lie...) and it seems like they completely brushed off her achievements. Not to mention that Forever did nothing on Spotify, the streaming numbers are a little bit disappointing in my opinion. I really hope that she won't fade into oblivion... Loreen is the biggest loser of this year's Eurovision. She really gave us the most boring performance ever and I don't think SVT is the one to blame. She has consistently proven that she, besides Euphoria and Tattoo, can't make a smart business decision if it was the last thing she does. 1 6
Danai G Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hurem said: Loreen is the biggest loser of this year's Eurovision. She really gave us the most boring performance ever and I don't think SVT is the one to blame. She has consistently proven that she, besides Euphoria and Tattoo, can't make a smart business decision if it was the last thing she does. Honestly, the fact that she released only one song after her Eurovision win proves that she's truly not interested to purchase a bigger career. She seems pretty modest with the career she has now. Yes, it's sad that she fumbles all of her chances but we have to accept that that's who she is... I saw that she changed labels and she's not signed to Universal Music Group anymore. Oh God. 😭
*Tim Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 18 minutes ago, Antinemesis said: Not sure if AP but allegedly 15 different broadcasters agreed to disqualify Joost. I haven't paid to read the full thing, though. https://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/schlagerbloggen/2024/05/har-tycks-ebu-fullstandigt-saga-nederlandska-versionen-dessutom-15-olika-tv-bolag-med-i-beslutet-att-diska-joost-klein/ She was supposed to perform with Johnny Logan in semi 1 but she dropped out. There's been mixed information, though, as her manager claimed she never intended to perform outside of the final. That article is behind a paywall
Antinemesis Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, *Tim said: That article is behind a paywall Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll update if I see anything that is available for free or if I end up paying! edit: the preview says there should be an official statement about it from the EBU! Edited May 14, 2024 by Antinemesis
kimberly Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said: Also, Loreen was supposed to be in Semi 1 performing Euphoria alongside Johnny Logan but she pulled out, her manager denied this claim but it feels like the most Loreen thing to do https://eurovoix.com/2024/05/07/eurovision-2024-loreen-was-supposed-to-join-johnny-logan-at-eurovision-2024/ maybe she overheard Johnny Logan rehearsing and decided then and there. 1
Fevesy Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 Loreen's career is kinda laughable at this point. Last year, the tour in the UK she did tiny ass venues, way beneath that of a 2x Eurovision winner and Kaarija came to my city and did bigger venues. The irony is that I, who prefered CCC to Tattoo ended up going to see Loreen instead of Kaarija Now her 2025 tour, the UK dates are in way bigger venues that she should have did in 2023 but now they are honestly too big for her since she didn't do much after her win and there's hardly any promo for this tour. Her core fandom is pretty small because there is hardly any content and there's only so much Euphoria and Tattoo can do. People I spoke to at the gig really couldn't name any other songs than those two and I felt like the only person in my immediate vicinity who knew all the songs and I'm not even a Loreen stan. No one knew the words to Statements which is criminal She should have been all over this years ESC since that's really the best promo opportuntiy she has at this point and she gave us a boring performance where you don't even realise she started singing Tattoo
zzmyth Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 58 minutes ago, karma police said: Grito is growing on me massively since the final Same. The vibe is so 'fado-like'... Yet sounds even RnB-ish at times... It's magnetic. Love her too... And that really helps.
Antisocialites Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 1 hour ago, abelfenty said: My ranking of all the winners this century: 1. 🇮🇹 Zitti e Buoni 2. 🇦🇹 Rise Like A Phoenix 3. 🇷🇸 Molitva 4. 🇺🇦 Wild Dances 5. 🇸🇪 Euphoria 6. 🇳🇴 Fairytale 7. 🇬🇷 My Number One 8. 🇸🇪 Heroes 9. 🇹🇷 Everyway That I Can 10. 🇺🇦 1944 11. 🇸🇪 Tattoo 12. 🇩🇰 Fly on the Wings of Love 13.🇨🇭The Code 14. 🇮🇱 Toy 15. 🇺🇦 Stefania 16. 🇩🇰 Only Teardrops 17. 🇱🇻 I Wanna 18. 🇳🇱 Arcade 19. 🇩🇪 Satellite 20. 🇫🇮 Hard Rock Hallelujah 21. 🇦🇿 Running Scared 22. 🇵🇹 Amar pelos dois 23. 🇷🇺 Believe 24. 🇪🇪 Everybody sATEllite way too low
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