Solaria Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Fevesy said: The NFs for Israel start in 2 days for their act btw. I know the Israeli government is scrambling to produce some propaganda'd mess and about to spend more money than Noa It'll definitely be some sort of ballad ala Polina Gagarina calling for peace. But Europe won't fall for it this time, their propaganda war has been failing MASSIVELY
Fevesy Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Love Again said: It'll definitely be some sort of ballad ala Polina Gagarina calling for peace. But Europe won't fall for it this time, their propaganda war has been failing MASSIVELY Yeah it's 100% going to be a ballad, conflict aside they wouldn't try to send another Noa the year later. I know the EBU won't do anything about Israel but the public opinion on Israel is at such an all time low that the act is going to get boo'd way more than Russia did in 2014. If Israel's propaganda machine was smart (it isn't, judging by the official twitter account) they would just withdraw this year and spare themselves the embarrassment but they're far too prideful and delusional and will spin it as anti-semitic when they get boo'd or if acts start waving Palestinan flags
Funhouse Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Only way Israel gets banned is if their broadcaster gets suspended from the EBU like Belarus's broadcaster in 2021 IMO. Issues with the Israeli public broadcaster have actually been on the EBU's radar since the beginning of this year but I'm not sure what the situation is like now. I don't see other broadcasters coming together and demanding for Israel's expulsion from Eurovision like with Russia last year unfortunately. Edited October 29, 2023 by Funhouse
ZIVERT Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 Israel is not going anywhere, y’all are gonna have to make peace with that and ignore them if you’re so frazzled 1
Solaria Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Israel is not going anywhere, y’all are gonna have to make peace with that and ignore them if you’re so frazzled You out of all people saying this is incredibly insensitive and hypocritical. 1 1
ZIVERT Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Love Again said: You out of all people saying this is incredibly insensitive and hypocritical. Belarus was kicked out of the EBU for its journalistic practices, not because of Eurovision. Russia left the EBU of its own accord as a result of being banned from Eurovision for one (1) year after several countries threatened to withdraw. Considering that the majority of European countries’ governments are siding with Israel over Hamas, it’s just not a realistic expectation. If anything, maybe Ireland or Iceland will say something, but that’s it. There is nothing hypocritical about my post when Russia is hosting Hamas leadership as we speak. Ukraine and Israel have the same enemy. Edited October 29, 2023 by ZIVERT 1
Solaria Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Belarus was kicked out of the EBU for its journalistic practices, not because of Eurovision. Russia left the EBU of its own accord as a result of being banned from Eurovision for one (1) year after several countries threatened to withdraw. Considering that the majority of European countries’ governments are siding with Israel over Hamas, it’s just not a realistic expectation. If anything, maybe Ireland or Iceland will say something, but that’s it. There is nothing hypocritical about my post when Russia is hosting Hamas leadership as we speak. Ukraine and Israel have the same enemy. Take Hamas out of the equation and look at the two situations as a whole. You know what it’s like to have an agressor question your right to exist and invade your homeland and attack your basic human rights. How can you be so pro Israel knowing that they have the exact same mindset as Russia?
Yomaku Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 If nothing was said about Azerbaijan beforehand + as mentioned previously most of EU's political ranks are siding with Israel on this one then seeing them banned isn't that realistic.
greeneyedsoul Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 We will see what happens when we get a final list of participants in the upcoming days. Maybe some countries will boycott when it's clear that Israel will officially participate. I don't see how they'll ban Israel but not Azerbaijan tho? Either both go or both stay.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted October 30, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 30, 2023 Remove Israel and Azerbaijan, give us Kosovo and Lebanon 1
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted October 30, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 30, 2023 I wonder if the issues with Israel has been why we haven't received the final list of countries yet? We usually have it by now
Solaria Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, khalyan said: I wonder if the issues with Israel has been why we haven't received the final list of countries yet? We usually have it by now Romania has money issues, Australia’s contract with the EBU is up and Armenia has only confirmed their JESC participation not their ESC one.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted October 30, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Love Again said: Romania has money issues, Australia’s contract with the EBU is up and Armenia has only confirmed their JESC participation not their ESC one. I saw North Macedonia is still debating it too unless I missed their confirmation.
Fevesy Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Marcus and Martinus were initially also rumoured for MGP, so either way they're gonna be trying again I guess. In other news, Israel's NF was supposed to air tonight but got cancelled last minute with no date mentioned for rescheduling.
greeneyedsoul Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 I just found out that ESC's main sponsor, Moroccan Oil, is an Israeli brand.
Eglė Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 We need Kosovo and we need Bebe Rexha to represent
Solaria Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 This line up for Sanremo... a sausage fest AGAIN. I'm tired. We need Shitaly exiled from Eurovision forever
VeniceBeach Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 The lack of female singers from Italy needs to be studied
Solaria Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, VeniceBeach said: The lack of female singers from Italy needs to be studied The music industry has a huge problem with misogyny in general but in Italy it's like 200 % worse, especially since Italian rap has become booming. UGH. I hope they flop into oblivion
Funhouse Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 We will be rooting for La Rappresentante di Lista and they will be coming 7th at best
Funhouse Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Mother Laura back in Eesti Laul... Edited November 6, 2023 by Funhouse
Eglė Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 The Lithuanian line-up apparently sucks ass this year
Solaria Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 This Eurovision is gonna get cancelled I fear
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