PoisonPill Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) Some context would be helpful here for those not following this… also: "Queers for Palestine" Edited March 29 by PoisonPill 8
Saint James Posted March 29 Posted March 29 idk i kinda see the point. they want people to speak out. by doing eurovision he has a bigger platform to share the message. the only bigger thing they could do is cancel the whole event which clearly isn't happening 1 1
ForgottenSoul Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) Why should he drop out like what? I also doubt Queers for Palestine are actually Palestine people. Edited March 29 by ForgottenSoul 2 2 5
Jon Snow Posted March 29 Posted March 29 if everyone who condemns the genocide decides to boycott, then the genocide supporters would be getting the platform 1 1 1
alp Posted March 29 Posted March 29 it's a huge opportunity for him. why would he withdraw just because some wokes said so 2 1 3 9
perpetual novice Posted March 29 Posted March 29 drop out for what? so eurovision is full of pro israel voices instead? critical thinking is not there 6 1
State of Grace. Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) Talk about missing the point I know that he was reposting stuff about the genocide months ago, but this is just a "sorry luvs my career is more important". Also, anyone thinking EBU will actually allow contestants to make a statement on stage is delulu'd as hell. It will be a "PEACE FOR ALL! LUV ISRAEL and PALESTINE! NO ONE SHOULD DIE! <3333" message while they're wearing small pins at best, and they can keep it. It'd be a much bigger statement if ALL contestants withdrew. Edited March 29 by State of Grace. 14 4
Reflektor Posted March 29 Posted March 29 We're so beyond the point of accepting mealy-mouthed statements. Just say nothing and make your money if that's your perogative. Also Queers for Palestine is doing a lot of work not only to call for a ceasefire in the recognition that liberation for all is the only way we can all truly work to both social and personal freedom, but also to amplify voices of queer Palestinians (because yes, there are queer people in Palestine). 5 2 2
KingWitch Posted March 29 Posted March 29 14 minutes ago, punisher said: god i hate people with a mindset like this, "removing myself won't bring together our shared goal" like of course your irrelevant ass won't bring a ceasefire he's missing the wholeee message So hes "irrelevant" but still important enough for you to care about him doing something? Anyway good on him for not missing out on this once in a lifetime opportunity to please other people who won't do anything for him because he's "irrelevant".
FOCK Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Olly, wtf. "Use our platform to come together and call for peace" is inconsequential, performative & tone deaf at this stage into a genocide. What's required is immediate action. Boycotting & divesting. Artists dropping out is an infinitely more impactful message. There is no show without performers. That should be the shared goal. I love Olly, and I'd honestly rather he said nothing than to put out such a bs statement. It's not even as though he's some struggling artist who wouldn't manage without this appearance. 7 1 1
LittleStarmen Posted March 29 Posted March 29 The Mental gynastics of wanting a gay UK singer to boycott a competition in Sweden because a queer organization supports an anti lgbtq+ estate 4 4 8
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted March 29 ATRL Moderator Posted March 29 It’s not a reasonable or fair demand to make of him. What would dropping out even accomplish? 6
illia Posted March 29 Posted March 29 19 minutes ago, Illuminati said: Wouldn't the UK just send someone else instead of him? Yes but it's too late now. If he drops out, the UK drops out
State of Grace. Posted March 29 Posted March 29 1 minute ago, LittleStarmen said: The Mental gynastics of wanting a gay UK singer to boycott a competition in Sweden because a queer organization supports an anti lgbtq+ estate Israel has been bombing, murdering, and starving LGBTQ+ Palestinians for months. Thoughts? Do queer people's lives only matter when they're white? 7 1
punisher Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, LittleStarmen said: The Mental gynastics of wanting a gay UK singer to boycott a competition in Sweden because a queer organization supports an anti lgbtq+ estate it isn't about "anti-lqbt estate" it's about basic ******* humanity dont tell me you support the deaths of 30,000+ people because it occurred in an anti-gay country 3 1
FOCK Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, supaspaz said: It's not a reasonable or fair demand to make of him. What would dropping out even accomplish? You can't appreciate the significance & optics of the UK essentially dropping out of Eurovision, in protest against a genocide? 3
Lil' Oz Posted March 29 Posted March 29 5 minutes ago, LittleStarmen said: The Mental gynastics of wanting a gay UK singer to boycott a competition in Sweden because a queer organization supports an anti lgbtq+ estate Literally 50% of Gazans are children. This is not about your Eurocentric white ass, this is about humanity. Shut the **** up, and educate yourself. My God, stop making everything about yourself!!! 3 2
LittleStarmen Posted March 29 Posted March 29 1 minute ago, State of Grace. said: Israel has been bombing, murdering, and starving LGBTQ+ Palestinians for months. Thoughts? Do queer people's lives only matter when they're white? Hamas has been murdering LGBTQ+ palestinian for years. Thoughts? Do queer people's lives only matter when they are useful for your arguments? 4 3 1
Lil' Oz Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, LittleStarmen said: Hamas has been murdering LGBTQ+ palestinian for years. Thoughts? Do queer people's lives only matter when they are useful for your arguments? Israel kills more Palestinian gays than Hamas does. Do you care about that? Or do queer people's lives only matter when they are useful for your Zionist propaganda? 1 2
igninton Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, Lil' Oz said: Israel kills more Palestinian gays than Hamas does. Do you care about that? Or do queer people's lives only matter when they are useful for your Zionist propaganda? Oh this is not... We can recognise and acknowledge both are in the wrong here without resorting to "X kills more than Y, so we should give Y a pass". Thanks. 1 1
ForgottenSoul Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lil' Oz said: Israel kills more Palestinian gays than Hamas does. Do you care about that? Or do queer people's lives only matter when they are useful for your Zionist propaganda? lmfao, imagine believing that. You don't care about lives either let's be real 300k people can die in Yemen and I didn't see anywhere near the amount of outrage. Edited March 29 by ForgottenSoul 3 1
Lil' Oz Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Just now, igninton said: Oh this is not... We can recognise and acknowledge both are in the wrong here without resorting to "X kills more than Y, so we should give Y a pass". Thanks. Obviously, no one gets a pass with killing anybody regardless of ethnicity, religion or sexuality. However, if one side kills more than the other, that side is objectively worse. 1
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