mael Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 The self deprecating narrative being paraded just so they can get the acquisition approved is becoming exhausting. Yeah, Ms Xbox is a LOSER, we get it mama
Pop Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 And they failed to buy Activision Blizzard. Nothing is going according to plan for Xbox omg
helpthomas Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, JayG said: I mean… we all knew this YEARS ago, Sony BEEN that *****, TLOU alone fully agree! it makes me think what sort of monster Nintendo could've been during this generation if they decided to compete with Sony and serve graphics and performance. and they already have the strongest franchises, the cult following, the insane sales
Khal Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 59 minutes ago, Liafen said: an absolutely horrific thing to admit as a CEO & hear as an xtinct stan. basically saying 'we have nothing to offer you anymore, you might aswell buy that PS5 if you havent already' And here I was thinking they couldn’t top the Xbox One launch in terms of PR disasters
Indie Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if this is Xbox's last hardware generation and they put all of their resources into cloud gaming/GamePass from now on.
HausofNick Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Absolutely embarrassing that this game was greenlit to be released. It's even more embarrassing that the face of Xbox is going on a podcast and basically admitting to defeat with their competitors and we're not even halfway through this generation. A multi-billion dollar tech company being unable to replicate the success/achievements of the other 2 spotlights the mismanagement, misdirection, and lack of awareness Microsoft has had with the Xbox brand for years.
DoctorIce Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Liafen said: an absolutely horrific thing to admit as a CEO & hear as an xtinct stan. basically saying 'we have nothing to offer you anymore, you might aswell buy that PS5 if you havent already' Putting aside Xbox's horrendous exclusive content, I've never understood the value proposition that so many people seem to insist Game Pass is. Like, just buy the game you want, complete it and then sell it. Works for me and seems far more economical in the long run than throwing £X/$X per month down the drain that you will never recoup.
thatsmydemi Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) They still have the chance to redeem themselves with the new Fable game. Sadly, after that clip and seeing Redfall, I don't think something good is coming out of it. Hope I'm wrong though. On the other hand, I don't think anyone buys an Xbox for their exclusives in 2023. Edited May 5, 2023 by thatsmydemi
JayG Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 45 minutes ago, helpthomas said: fully agree! it makes me think what sort of monster Nintendo could've been during this generation if they decided to compete with Sony and serve graphics and performance. and they already have the strongest franchises, the cult following, the insane sales Nintendo art smart… that isn’t their demographic and they had a chokehold with their unique style… they knew MS was tryna compete with Sony, why would they do the same when they have some of the most iconic IP’s ever? Makes no sense. They stayed in their lane, and that’s why they won. Sony & Nintendo will have monopoly forever at this point. We STAN.
thatsmydemi Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, DoctorIce said: Putting aside Xbox's horrendous exclusive content, I've never understood the value proposition that so many people seem to insist Game Pass is. Like, just buy the game you want, complete it and then sell it. Works for me and seems far more economical in the long run than throwing £X/$X per month down the drain that you will never recoup. You have access to plenty of games for only $10 a month (and even less), and you can replay them as long as they stay in the catalog. How do you not see the value? I don't see how buying and selling the game is more economical either unless you manage to sell it for the same price (or higher) you bought it. Not to mention that this is impossible if you have bought the digital-only console (same goes for PS5).
DoctorIce Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, thatsmydemi said: You have access to plenty of games for only $10 a month (and even less), and you can replay them as long as they stay in the catalog. How do you not see the value? I don't see how buying and selling the game is more economical either unless you manage to sell it for the same price (or higher) you bought it. Not to mention that this is impossible if you have bought the digital-only console (same goes for PS5). Because the supposed value is in having access to 100's of games for your $10-$15 per month, but in reality you're not actually playing all of those games. You stick to one or two titles (which takes weeks if not months for most to complete) and then move on to something else. This is unlike something like Netflix where you can easily watch a movie per night for a whole month, in which case you've actually been able to benefit from having access to the a vast library during your subscription period. The "value" of Game Pass seems like an overstated illusion when you consider how much you really get out of that in any given month. What you're really paying for is convenience. For example, I bought Resident Evil 4 second-hand recently, then sold it on eBay for more or less the same price I paid for it when I was done. I've even managed to sell games for more than I paid for them in the first place. If I switched to Game Pass and played games at the same rate I do now, I would be worse off financially. I suppose it really depends on what kind of gamer you are and how quickly you jump between different games. If you're the type to commit to one or two games, complete them and move on, you're much better off buying and reselling.
Otter Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Imagine they didn't buy Bethesda, they would literally have an empty 3 years aside from Halo Infinite and Forza, it's genuinely atrocious that they allowed their roster to become so bad they had to resort throwing Billions on multiplatform publishers I'm sure things will look better in 3 years but wow they fumbled the bag so badly after the 360
Jaimon Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, LustSpell said: Jesus, if this isn't a swan song then I don't know what is This is why they're just snatching up studios - because they're clearly incompetent of creating masterful AAA games like Sony and Nintendo. I expect him to resign if Starfield is a flop. Naughty Dog, Insomniac and Guerilla Games were bought by Sony a few years ago. This is how they started to build their first party lineup and its exactly what Microsoft is beginning to do. Relax
Jaimon Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, DoctorIce said: Putting aside Xbox's horrendous exclusive content, I've never understood the value proposition that so many people seem to insist Game Pass is. Like, just buy the game you want, complete it and then sell it. Works for me and seems far more economical in the long run than throwing £X/$X per month down the drain that you will never recoup. What consoles do you have? Aren't you paying any monthly fees for those in addition to the games you buy?
suneclipse121 Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 If Xbox doesn’t get it to together I can see it going in the way of Sega and their console business. They died with the Dreamcast and I’m starting to see a pattern of failure with Xbox… Sure they have the backing of Microsoft but if they don’t see results then that’s how you disappear.
Starshine Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jaimon said: Naughty Dog, Insomniac and Guerilla Games were bought by Sony a few years ago. This is how they started to build their first party lineup and its exactly what Microsoft is beginning to do. Relax Sony (and Nintendo) w/ smaller studios and building them up for decades =/= trillion dollar MS trying to buy established giants like Activision, Bethesda, then proceeding to run them into the ground.
Jaimon Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Starshine said: Sony (and Nintendo) w/ smaller studios and building them up for decades =/= trillion dollar MS trying to buy established giants like Activision, Bethesda, then proceeding to run them into the ground. They have other smaller studios like Obsidian, Playground, The Coalition that are yet to deliver their efforts (Avowed, Fable, Gears). I honestly love competition and to have the three consoles firing great first party games is a win me thinks.
Bad News Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) I kinda feel bad for them (and all the devs involved), ngl. Xbox has been taking L after L recently. Edited May 5, 2023 by NicoleAMatty
Jaimon Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: If Xbox doesn’t get it to together I can see it going in the way of Sega and their console business. They died with the Dreamcast and I’m starting to see a pattern of failure with Xbox… Sure they have the backing of Microsoft but if they don’t see results then that’s how you disappear. You should look at their revenue numbers, the last quarter was still one of their best ones despise the low hardware sales. Microsoft won't let go of this revenue, in the end is MarketShare and brand presence in a different market than just PCs.
DoctorIce Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jaimon said: What consoles do you have? Aren't you paying any monthly fees for those in addition to the games you buy? PS5 only, simply on the strength of their exclusive IP. The only reason I paid for PS+ for one month was to download Returnal for free to get the Platinum after I leant the game to my brother and never got it back.
Doogle Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, JayG said: Nintendo art smart… that isn’t their demographic and they had a chokehold with their unique style… they knew MS was tryna compete with Sony, why would they do the same when they have some of the most iconic IP’s ever? Makes no sense. They stayed in their lane, and that’s why they won. Sony & Nintendo will have monopoly forever at this point. We STAN. Not to mention they fumbled the bag with Sony back in the 90s so when the PlayStation blew up and was outdoing everyone including Nintendo they were even more clever to be innovative and focus on Wii/Switch since they’d lost that part of the market. Wii U was a misstep but generally they know what they’re doing in their lane.
JayG Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doogle said: Not to mention they fumbled the bag with Sony back in the 90s so when the PlayStation blew up and was outdoing everyone including Nintendo they were even more clever to be innovative and focus on Wii/Switch since they’d lost that part of the market. Wii U was a misstep but generally they know what they’re doing in their lane. The TEA. Yep. See… Japanese excellence WON. Masters at art, tech and business. Edited May 6, 2023 by JayG
Smilers Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 The absolute nerve to (attempt to) buy Activision when they can’t even get their current studios to deliver what’s the last universally acclaimed Xbox game that isn’t Forza??
Vespertine Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Liafen said: an absolutely horrific thing to admit as a CEO & hear as an xtinct stan. basically saying 'we have nothing to offer you anymore, you might aswell buy that PS5 if you havent already' The way he keeps repeating “focusing on good games won’t sell our console” Like, what!? Did he not see 2020 when the entire world was trying to get their hands on a Nintendo Switch to play Animal Crossing? If GTA 6 were somehow an Xtinct exclusive, does he not think people would run out and buy Xtincts to play it…? Xtinct deserves its fate. You put in no effort, you get no results.
Universo Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Phil is a mess for those comments they can't catch a break these days i do feel bad for the devs tho
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