UnusualBoy Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Also not the thread turning into a Kelly vs Avril fight lol.
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: You wanna mention streams all the time so here you go Song Title Streams Daily Because of You 583,782,947 258,041 Since U Been Gone 553,443,761 326,245 Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) 531,569,004 298,198 Underneath the Tree 484,262,956 10,897 Heartbeat Song 235,073,640 54,278 Breakaway 190,623,470 112,439 Complicated 649,509,573 447,029 Sk8er Boi 446,811,879 298,286 Girlfriend 360,693,761 234,989 What the Hell 317,903,890 194,921 I'm with You 221,557,612 162,226 Head Above Water 212,140,240 57,855 What I get from those numbers is: Avril has the biggest hit: Complicated - 649M Because of You - 583M Since U Been Gone - 553M Stronger - 531M Underneath the Tree - 484M Sk8er Boi - 446M Girlfriend - 360M What the Hell - 317M Heartbeat Song - 235M I'm with You - 221M Head Above Water - 212M Breakaway - 190M ... and the fastest growing songs Complicated - 447,029 Since U Been Gone - 326,245 Sk8er Boi - 298,286 Stronger - 298,198 Because of You - 258,041 Girlfriend - 234,989 What the Hell - 194,921 I'm with You - 162,226 Head Above Water - 57,855 Heartbeat Song - 54,278 Breakaway - 112,439 Underneath the Tree - 10,897 ... and Kelly is a radio-fueled singles artist and no one gives 2 shits about her album tracks: Let Go - 1,557,155,099 Breakaway - 1,543,109,763 The Best Damn Thing - 882,393,899 Stronger - 749,332,189 Goodbye Lullaby - 727,518,401 Wrapped In Red - 686,293,880 Avril Lavigne - 542,212,662 Piece By Piece - 488,756,764 Under My Skin - 454,745,314 Head Above Water - 367,668,708 All I Ever Wanted - 280,280,925 Love Sux - 256,451,581 Meaning of Life - 224,261,164 When Christmas Comes Around... - 182,664,399 Thankful - 139,336,365 My December - 34,181,625 (and you're using a Saturday update - 2nd weakest day - for Avril and a Tuesday update for Kelly)
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: What I get from those numbers is: Avril has the biggest hit: Complicated - 649M Because of You - 583M Since U Been Gone - 553M Stronger - 531M Underneath the Tree - 484M Sk8er Boi - 446M Girlfriend - 360M What the Hell - 317M Heartbeat Song - 235M I'm with You - 221M Head Above Water - 212M Breakaway - 190M ... and the fastest growing songs Complicated - 447,029 Since U Been Gone - 326,245 Sk8er Boi - 298,286 Stronger - 298,198 Because of You - 258,041 Girlfriend - 234,989 What the Hell - 194,921 I'm with You - 162,226 Head Above Water - 57,855 Heartbeat Song - 54,278 Breakaway - 112,439 Underneath the Tree - 10,897 ... and Kelly is a radio-fueled singles artist and no one gives 2 shits about her album tracks: Let Go - 1,557,155,099 Breakaway - 1,543,109,763 The Best Damn Thing - 882,393,899 Stronger - 749,332,189 Goodbye Lullaby - 727,518,401 Wrapped In Red - 686,293,880 Avril Lavigne - 542,212,662 Piece By Piece - 488,756,764 Under My Skin - 454,745,314 Head Above Water - 367,668,708 All I Ever Wanted - 280,280,925 Love Sux - 256,451,581 Meaning of Life - 224,261,164 When Christmas Comes Around... - 182,664,399 Thankful - 139,336,365 My December - 34,181,625 (and you're using a Saturday update - 2nd weakest day - for Avril and a Tuesday update for Kelly) Again BB hot 100 3 #1s vs 1 #1 and 11 top 10 hits vs. 5 Kelly charted in top 20 hot 100 in December of 2022. Avril could never what did Bite Me reach on radio Avril flopped hard and yes rn Kelly is flopping but she isn't promoting. Album doesn't come out til June we shall see Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, KCFan2014 said: Again BB hot 100 3 #1s vs 1 #1 and 11 top 10 hits vs. 5 Kelly charted in top 20 hot 100 in December of 2022. Avril could never No shade on this question but what did Bite Me reach on radio And when was the last time she did that with a non-Christmas song? Piece By Piece? #23 on Alternative, and it still outstreamed Love So Soft
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: And when was the last time she did that with a non-Christmas song? Piece By Piece? #23 on Alternative, and it still outstreamed Love So Soft Yet LSS actually debuted on the Hot 100 Holiday,pop,rock,country, Christian its still a single lmao doesn't matter Last time Avril did was what 2011 PBP was in 2016 and still after Avril Stronger #1 2012 Mine already doing better #22 on Hot Ac not even a month out Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: Christmas,pop,rock,country, Christian its still a single lmao doesn't matter Last time Avril did was what 2011 PBP was in 2016 Mine already doing better #22 on Hot Ac not even a month out with a 2014 Christmas song Christmas resurrects even Gwen Stefani’s career 2013 lol all that time and radio support and yet mine and me’s streams combined have only now reached Bite Me’s day 7 streams
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: with a 2014 Christmas song Christmas resurrects even Gwen Stefani’s career 2013 lol all that time and radio support and yet mine and me’s streams combined have only now reached Bite Me’s day 7 streams Lmao still a top 15 you mad your fav can't do that. Not my fault ur fav is generic and still doing the same old pop rock teeny bop sound at 40yrs old Lmao Gwen didnt chart on the Hot 100 boo I'm SCREAMINGyou keep coming back to those irrelevant streams that couldn't help ya fav chart on any of those flop singles It's still doing better on radio which is more relevant then random streams that amounted to absolutely nothing Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: Lmao still a top 15 you mad your fav can't do that. Not my fault ur fav is generic and still doing the same old pop rock teeny bop sound at 40yrs old Lmao Gwen didnt chart on the Hot 100 boo I'm SCREAMINGyou keep coming back to those irrelevant streams that couldn't help ya fav chart on any of those flop singles It's still doing better on radio which is more relevant then random streams that amounted to absolutely nothing your fave's career was built on singing my fave's leftovers it only didn't chart cause it was released on a Wednesday and 2 days later Taylor dropped Red TV () it had enough points to chart the week before even with radio mine failed to chart on the Bubbling Under are you saying people hear mine on the radio and don't bother to give it a stream?
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: your fave's career was built on singing my fave's leftovers it only didn't chart cause it was released on a Wednesday and 2 days later Taylor dropped Red TV () it had enough points to chart the week before even with radio mine failed to chart on the Bubbling Under are you saying people hear mine on the radio and don't bother to give it a stream? Your favs left over lmfao My fav had #1 single on her first album (you know that thing that your fav didn't accomplish until her 3rd album ) the album debuted at #1 with almost 300k when ur favs first album Let Go debuted at #8 with 62k Now I know you delusional. Someone's mad queen came in with actual vocals and showed ur fav how pop rock is actually done I'm saying non of your favs singles did absolutely anything. Who knows where mine will end but we know its doing better then Bite Me on radio not some imagery Spotify charts you think your fav made Didn't your fav get dropped from RCA too. Signed some random ass Travis Barker label Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, KCFan2014 said: Your favs left over lmfao My fav had #1 single on her first album which also debuted at #1 with almost 300k when ur favs first album Let Go debuted at #8 with 62k Now I know you delusional. Someone's mad queen came in with actual vocals and showed ur fav how pop rock is actually done I'm saying non of your favs singles did absolutely anything. Who knows where mine will end but we know its doing better then Bite Me lmao yes, guess how she got this song not to mention she RAN to Avril's producers for 2 eras in a row, despite Let Go's and Under My Skin's teams being completely different Thankful only went #1 cause the public knew Kelly from American Idol Let Go later climbed to #2 and sold 363,000 in a week also not you trying to compare f*cking Thankful to Let Go Let Go sold twice as much in the US as Thankful sold WW in fact, Let Go sold more (pure sales) than Thankful, Breakaway and My December combined 9 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: I'm saying non of your favs singles did absolutely anything. Who knows where mine will end but we know its doing better then Bite Me lmao miserable streams, outside the top 100 on iTunes despite getting nice support from radio... the future isn't looking too bright for mine considering that mine is already receiving fewer streams on its 17th day than Bite Me received on its 100th
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: yes, guess how she got this song not to mention she RAN to Avril's producers for 2 eras in a row, despite Let Go's and Under My Skin's teams being completely different Thankful only went #1 cause the public knew Kelly from American Idol Let Go later climbed to #2 and sold 363,000 in a week also not you trying to compare f*cking Thankful to Let Go Let Go sold twice as much in the US as Thankful sold WW in fact, Let Go sold more (pure sales) than Thankful, Breakaway and My December combined miserable streams, outside the top 100 on iTunes despite getting nice support from radio... the future isn't looking too bright for mine considering that mine is already receiving fewer streams on its 17th day than Bite Me received on its 100th And yet it's outperforming her on radio Girl nobody cares about Breakaway it's cute but it was dead in the water until Princess Diaries Avrils producers You really are mad Kelly became the pop rock queen Avril only dreamed of embarassing no label wanted her so she had to sign to Travis Barker hahahaha I think she might be the only one outta her peers to be dropped. That's traumatic Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: And yet it's outperforming her on radio Avrils producers You really are mad Kelly became the pop rock queen Avril only dreamed of embarassing no label wanted her so she had to sign to Travis Barker hahahaha I think she might be the only one outta her peers to be dropped. That's traumatic When has Kelly not performed better than Avril in terms of airplay? Avril’s US radio stats after I’m With You are atrocious Yes, Cliff Magness, Chantal, Ben Moody, Raine Maida. You think Kelly working with them right after Avril did was a coincidence? oh yes, especially when I realized Avril’s debut sold more than Kelly’s first 3 albums combined and Avril’s 3rd best selling album outsold the rest she was in negotiations with Republic she quite literally canceled a deal with some other label when Travis invited her What labels dropped her? Enlighten us with your knowledge. Edited May 1, 2023 by ProudLBS
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: When has Kelly not performed better than Avril in terms of airplay? Avril’s US radio stats after I’m With You are atrocious oh yes, especially when I realized Avril’s debut sold more than Kelly’s first 3 albums combined and Avril’s 3rd best selling album outsold the rest she was in negotiations with Republic she quite literally canceled a deal with some other label when Travis invited her What labels dropped her? Enlighten us with your knowledge. Lmao Kelly's Breakaway is close to 15million but try again Hahahaha yes she canceled a deal to go with Trevis Barker Just enjoy your fav being talked about atm for dating Tyga cause God knows that's the only way she has been talked about. Cause those singles or album ain't it We will see about my fav in Juns but atleast my fav has an actual career to fall back on Emmy winning talk show. Yours not so much 3x Grammy winner 5x Emmy winner not everybody has that Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
Angelo Posted May 1, 2023 Author Posted May 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: When has Kelly not performed better than Avril in terms of airplay? Avril’s US radio stats after I’m With You are atrocious Yes, Cliff Magness, Chantal, Ben Moody, Raine Maida. You think Kelly working with them right after Avril did was a coincidence? oh yes, especially when I realized Avril’s debut sold more than Kelly’s first 3 albums combined and Avril’s 3rd best selling album outsold the rest she was in negotiations with Republic she quite literally canceled a deal with some other label when Travis invited her What labels dropped her? Enlighten us with your knowledge. Facts!
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, KCFan2014 said: Lmao Kelly's Breakaway is close to 15million but try again Hahahaha yes she canceled a deal to go with Trevis Barker Just enjoy your fav being talked about atm for dating Tyga cause God knows that's the only way she has been talked about. Cause those singles or album ain't it We will see about my fav in Juns but atleast my fav has an actual career to fall back on Emmy winning talk show. Yours not so much 3x Grammy winner 5x Emmy winner not everybody has that Close to 15M according to who? The OP of the Kelly Clarkson Receipts thread? Yes, there’s an interview where she talked about that. It’s the interview she gave the day Bite Me dropped. Look it up. Yes, she’s selling out arenas but she’s only famous cause she’s dating Tyga of all people Can’t wait to see how chemistry performs! Tag me if debuts with at least 3M streams! Bragging about a talk show for soccer moms fortunately my fave doesn’t need a backup plan
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: Close to 15M according to who? The OP of the Kelly Clarkson Receipts thread? Yes, there’s an interview where she talked about that. It’s the interview she gave the day Bite Me dropped. Look it up. Yes, she’s selling out arenas but she’s only famous cause she’s dating Tyga of all people Can’t wait to see how chemistry performs! Tag me if debuts with at least 3M streams! Bragging about a talk show for soccer moms fortunately my fave doesn’t need a backup plan Lmao it sold 12mil by the end of 2004 Link me that interview? And she isn't actually going to admit being dropped lmao Your fav def needs a back up plan her career is non existent. Can't get get on th3 hot 100, radio hit, a grammy nothing. My favs last tour was her biggest to date. Avril had to open for MGK My fav has 2 kids and a talk show she doesn't care about touring anywhere else. The US is the biggest market. They wanted her to add more days to Vegas and she said no Ur fav opened with 30k with hella promo we will see what Chemistry does Let me know when your fav makes a headline other than dating a Jenner ex Edited May 2, 2023 by KCFan2014
VioletsandRoses Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 They’re both amazing but 2007 was both their last succesful albums.
ProudLBS Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KCFan2014 said: Lmao it sold 12mil by the end of 2004 Link me that interview? And she isn't actually going to admit being dropped lmao Your fav def needs a back up plan her career is non existent. Can't get get on th3 hot 100, radio hit, a grammy nothing. My favs last tour was her biggest to date. Avril had to open for MGK My fav has 2 kids and a talk show she doesn't care about touring anywhere else. The US is the biggest market. They wanted her to add more days to Vegas and she said no Ur fav opened with 30k with hella promo we will see what Chemistry does Let me know when your fav makes a headline other than dating a Jenner ex Receipts? if my fave’s career is non-existing then Kelly only has the soccer mom show and not you bragging about radio hits and the hot 100 when I showed you Avril has ALBUM TRACKS stomping on some of Kelly’s top 10s if you didn’t get it by now it means the song was shoved down people’s throats and yet no one cared My fave doesn’t need to have radio hits to do well. She was never a radio-driven singles artist like Kelly, which is why she never had a Breakaway -> My December fiasco outside the US your fave couldn’t even open for Nelly Furtado and we’ve already gone over why opening for MGK made no sense (and your fave opened for Maroon 5 in 2013, so don’t even try) the fact is, my fave is packing arenas in Europe right now while your fave serves Ellen wannabe from January to October and dollar store Mariah Carey during Christmas more like the US is Kelly’s ONLY market Hella promo? Good Morning America and your fave’s soccer mom show? Didn’t you say mine was doing ~amazingly~ in terms of airplay? That’s way better promo lol and btw she opened with 30K without vinyl You really saying that when Kelly’s messy divorce was all over the gossip websites while her new singles came and went? Edited May 2, 2023 by ProudLBS
KCFan2014 Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ProudLBS said: Receipts? if my fave’s career is non-existing then Kelly only has the soccer mom show and not you bragging about radio hits and the hot 100 when I showed you Avril has ALBUM TRACKS stomping on some of Kelly’s top 10s if you didn’t get it by now it means the song was shoved down people’s throats and yet no one cared My fave doesn’t need to have radio hits to do well. She was never a radio-driven singles artist like Kelly, which is why she never had a Breakaway -> My December fiasco outside the US your fave couldn’t even open for Nelly Furtado and we’ve already gone over why opening for MGK made no sense (and your fave opened for Maroon 5 in 2013, so don’t even try) the fact is, my fave is packing arenas in Europe right now while your fave serves wannabe Ellen from January to October and dollar store Mariah Carey during Christmas more like the US is Kelly’s ONLY market Hella promo? Good Morning America and your fave’s soccer mom show? Did you say mine was doing amazingly in terms of airplay? That’s way better promo lol and btw she opened with 30K without vinyl You really saying that when Kelly’s messy divorce was all over the gossip websites while her new singles came and went? My fav can still chart regardless if it's a Christmas song or not yours can not I can't believe she really got dropped from her label bahahaha Kelly is more of a household name in 2023 whether u accept it or not. My favorite could easily tour worldwide but she doesn't care too. She's 41 with a family. Avril is what 39 jumping from man to man Uh duh her divorce was on the net she a a celebrity the difference is she is talked about for hosting billboard awards, nfl honors, the voice, her show, emmys. Ur fav is ONLY talked about for tyga and slapping a Boob to try n look edgy lmao Move along she's a flop Edited May 2, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 6 hours ago, KCFan2014 said: My fav can still chart regardless if it's a Christmas song or not yours can not I can't believe she really got dropped from her label bahahaha Kelly is more of a household name in 2023 whether u accept it or not. My favorite could easily tour worldwide but she doesn't care too. She's 41 with a family. Avril is what 39 jumping from man to man Uh duh her divorce was on the net she a a celebrity the difference is she is talked about for hosting billboard awards, nfl honors, the voice, her show, emmys. Ur fav is ONLY talked about for tyga and slapping a Boob to try n look edgy lmao Move along she's a flop If so why did Mine fail to chart? She did not In terms of soccer mom TV? Definitely Worldwide? Your fave only does well in the North America and yikes at the misogyny yes, if you ignore all the other headlines she’s sold more than your fave, continues to do so every single day and your fave hasn’t outdone an era of hers since Stronger vs Goodbye Lullaby. Not to mention Avril adapted to streaming much better (for example by not having top 10 singles with 14M streams ) (and we’re so getting WPs for this mess )
KCFan2014 Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: If so why did Mine fail to chart? She did not In terms of soccer mom TV? Definitely Worldwide? Your fave only does well in the North America and yikes at the misogyny yes, if you ignore all the other headlines she’s sold more than your fave, continues to do so every single day and your fave hasn’t outdone an era of hers since Stronger vs Goodbye Lullaby. Not to mention Avril adapted to streaming much better (for example by not having top 10 singles with 14M streams ) (and we’re so getting WPs for this mess ) We can agree to disagree cause im not gonna keeo going back and forth lmao but as of 2023 Avril is a flop no hit singles and Kelly is flopping atm to but her album hasn't been released yet so to be determined But yes let's stop before we get banned Kelly's 41 Avril is 38 or 39 right? It's ridiculous to think they are gonna dominate in this agesist industry unfortunately Edited May 2, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: We can agree to disagree cause im not gonna keeo going back and forth lmao but as of 2023 Avril is a flop no hit singles and Kelly is flopping atm to but her album hasn't been released yet so to be determined But yes let's stop before we get banned tag me when the album drops so we can continue to drag each other’s fave bye sweetie
KCFan2014 Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, ProudLBS said: tag me when the album drops so we can continue to drag each other’s fave bye sweetie I hate you but also love you I'm jk I don't hate u
Angelo Posted May 3, 2023 Author Posted May 3, 2023 On 5/2/2023 at 8:16 AM, KCFan2014 said: I hate you but also love you I'm jk I don't hate u Just accept your defeat and move on
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