EnoughSaid Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 11 hours ago, KKCuteCat said: Everyone was shook with Nelly Furtado's numbers in 2012. And she went down from an arena touring artist to perform in some bars with 500 seats. Anyway, i didn't mean to shade or anything but that's what really happened. OT: Avril had 3 massive eras and brought pop/rock into mainstream. She did make profound contribution for pop/punk genre while Nelly Furtado enjoyed one massive era but she did not bring anything new to music scene. Besides, i believe that when we talk about early 2000s female acts, Avril is only behind few acts such as Bey, Shakira, P!nk and Britney. She's definitely among the top 10 most successful 2000s female artists, (top 5 if we merely compare artists who debut in early 2000s). I mean it's a little sad what happened with Nelly but she really never seemed to care. I'm just happy I have her first 3 albums which are amazing
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 17 hours ago, ProudLBS said: mine debuted with worse numbers than how many Avril songs this era? I think we’re up to 5 now? Love It When You Hate Me - 1,161,987 Bite Me - 1,081,928 Eyes Wide Shut - 868,326 Bois Lie - 788,395 I'm a Mess - 596,836 mine - 515,345 Cannonball - 390,060 Love Sux - 366,225 Kiss Me Like The World Is Ending - 314,012 Avalanche - 303,314 F.U. - 275,606 Déjà vu - 272,307 All I Wanted - 266,387 Mercury in Retrograde - 245,496 Dare To Love Me - 229,732 me - 209,893 (and mine only charted on radio and digital sales charts so you talking about the hot 100 is laughable) Lmao here we go again posting irrelevant numbers You should really stop it's embarrassing hahahaha All 3 singles flopped hard It's giving participation trophy
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, DestroyAndSmile said: Lavigne is still able to place her albums in the top ten of many countries all over the world and tour worldwide meanwhile Miss Kelly isn't a thing outside of English speaking countries for more than over a decade and seemingly can't even chart nowadays in her own home country. Talking about big name celebrity Boo she sold 30k in rhe US and barely made the top 10 hahaha. Kelly's album hasn't came out yet but her last one opened with 79k while Avirls opened with 29k She has the #1 female talk show hahaha definitely more of a celebrity then the has been The only thing Avril is known for in 2023 is jumping from engagement to engagement and dating a Jenner ex lmfaa Tyga of all people Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
KKCuteCat Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 3 hours ago, KCFan2014 said: Boo she sold 30k in rhe US and barely made the top 10 hahaha. Kelly's album hasn't came out yet but her last one opened with 79k while Avirls opened with 29k She has the #1 female talk show hahaha definitely more of a celebrity then the has been The only thing Avril is known for in 2023 is jumping from engagement to engagement and dating a Jenner ex lmfaa Tyga of all people Head Above Water still outsold your fav's latest album WW. Are you dumb?
Karla Cabello Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 1:08 AM, Smarticle said: Nelly stopped trying stream her best song
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 8 hours ago, KCFan2014 said: Lmao here we go again posting irrelevant numbers You should really stop it's embarrassing hahahaha All 3 singles flopped hard It's giving participation trophy Spotify numbers in 2023 for 2023 releases are irrelevant now but let me guess, some radio-fueled peak on the Hot 100 is super relevant
KKCuteCat Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 7 hours ago, ProudLBS said: Spotify numbers in 2023 for 2023 releases are irrelevant now but let me guess, some radio-fueled peak on the Hot 100 is super relevant She even open a thread called "Kelly owned Avril in 2000s" and posted US radio stats
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, ProudLBS said: Spotify numbers in 2023 for 2023 releases are irrelevant now but let me guess, some radio-fueled peak on the Hot 100 is super relevant Spotify numbers that can't even get an artist in the top 20 or even top 30 on Spotify aint nothing to brag about sis. Nor is trying to come for another artist when all 4 of your favs singles flopped hard. Two of those having feats. Even an mgk feature couldn't save her 💣 Its giving participation 🏆 Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, KKCuteCat said: She even open a thread called "Kelly owned Avril in 2000s" and posted US radio stats Boo boo radio in the 2000s was everything
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, KKCuteCat said: She even open a thread called "Kelly owned Avril in 2000s" and posted US radio stats oh yeah I saw that the desperation
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: oh yeah I saw that the desperation Those were radio hits Desperation is reaching for streams from not 1 but 4 flop singles Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, KCFan2014 said: Those were radio hits Desperation is reaching for streams from flop singles exactly A Moment like This (#1) is performing worse than Losing Grip (#64) and Hot (#95)
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, ProudLBS said: exactly A Moment like This (#1) is performing worse than Losing Grip (#64) and Hot (#95) And SUBG, Behind These Hazel Eyes and Because Of You outperforming her entire discography
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, KCFan2014 said: And SUBG, Behind These Hazel Eyes and Because Of You outperforming her entire discography Complicated - 447,029 Since U Been Gone - 326,245 Sk8er Boi - 298,286 Because of You - 258,041 Girlfriend - 234,989 What the Hell - 194,921 I'm with You - 162,226 My Happy Ending - 105,365 When You're Gone - 95,060 Wish You Were Here - 85,155 Here's to Never Growing Up - 82,686 Bite Me - 82,399 Head Above Water - 57,855 Behind These Hazel Eyes - 52,872 no doubt
Bey_Rihstan Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Easy to beat a girl that only makes music as a hobby and barely promotes it chbxjxock plus Nelly was only bigger for 2 or 3 years in the mid 00’s anyway. Avril cares more about her actual career
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: Complicated - 447,029 Since U Been Gone - 326,245 Sk8er Boi - 298,286 Because of You - 258,041 Girlfriend - 234,989 What the Hell - 194,921 I'm with You - 162,226 My Happy Ending - 105,365 When You're Gone - 95,060 Wish You Were Here - 85,155 Here's to Never Growing Up - 82,686 Bite Me - 82,399 Head Above Water - 57,855 Behind These Hazel Eyes - 52,872 no doubt 1. Since U Been Gone - Kelly Clarkson 2. Because of You - Kelly Clarkson 3. Big Girls Don't Cry - Fergie 4. Bleeding Love - Leona Lewis 5. Just Dance - Lady Gaga 6. Behind These Hazel Eyes - Kelly Clarkson 7. We Belong Together - Mariah Carey 8. Say It Right - Nelly Furtado 9. Hot N Cold - Katy Perry 10. Complicated - Avril Lavigne BB Hot 100 Complicated #2 Sk8er Boy #10 SUBG #2 Boy #7 Not to mention had 1 bb hot 100 #1 and that was in 2007 and the last time she charted in the top 20 on the Hot 100 Avril - 1 #1 and 5 top 10 hits on the Hot 100 Kelly - 3 #1s and 11 top 10 hits Kelly's last #1 was in 2012, PBP #8 in 2016 and Underneath the tree hit #12 in 2021 and #14 last year Avril just can't compete Also Head Above Water opening week and LS combined not even equaling Kelly's first week sales of her last album MOL 79k Take that L and move long sweetie enjoy your day Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: Complicated - 447,029 Since U Been Gone - 326,245 Sk8er Boi - 298,286 Because of You - 258,041 Girlfriend - 234,989 What the Hell - 194,921 I'm with You - 162,226 My Happy Ending - 105,365 When You're Gone - 95,060 Wish You Were Here - 85,155 Here's to Never Growing Up - 82,686 Bite Me - 82,399 Head Above Water - 57,855 Behind These Hazel Eyes - 52,872 no doubt Actually Song Title Streams Daily Because of You 583,782,947 258,041 Since U Been Gone 553,443,761 326,245 Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) 531,569,004 298,198 Underneath the Tree 484,262,956 10,897 Damn you lost there too Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: means nothing they were still bigger hits then why don't people stream those "bigger hits" as much as Avril's? YouTube: Girlfriend - 624,004,915 Complicated - 589,378,340 Because of You - 509,781,226 Sk8er Boi - 238,716,243 Since U Been Gone - 114,133,107 Behind These Hazel Eyes - 76,076,531 Spotify: Complicated - 649,509,573 Since U Been Gone - 553,443,761 Because of You - 583,782,947 Sk8er Boi - 446,811,879 Girlfriend - 360,693,761 Behind These Hazel Eyes - 94,044,739 (and as seen above, Sk8er Boi is outstreaming Because of You) 36 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: Not to mention had 1 bb hot 100 #1 and that was in 2007 and the last time she charted in the top 20 on the Hot 100 at least get your facts right What The Hell (2011) and Here's To Never Growing Up (2013) exist not that she needs to go top 20 to stomp on your fave's "hits" What The Hell (#11) - 317,903,890 Here's To Never Growing Up (#20) - 197,573,269 When You're Gone (#24) - 195,096,786 My Life Would Suck Without You (#1) - 167,494,602 Piece By Piece (#8) - 166,117,741 Wish You Were Here (#65) - 127,541,345 Smile (#68) - 86,745,187 Let Me Go (#78) - 70,673,489 Rock N Roll (#91) - 64,059,779 Catch My Breath (#19) - 60,139,036 Already Gone (#20) - 59,951,171 Mr. Know It All (#10) - 52,380,447 Hello Kitty (#75) - 49,987,319 Give You What You Like (album track) - 42,188,664 Innocence (album track) - 40,616,468 Alice (#71) - 40,140,023 Bad Girl (album track) - 31,679,703 I Love You (album track) - 29,109,585 Everybody Hurts (album track) - 28,094,659 When You're Gone acoustic - 18,252,110 I Do Not Hook Up (#20) - 17,598,368 Remember When (album track) - 17,076,516 Runaway (album track) - 15,943,568 Never Again (#8) - 14,441,063 Edited May 1, 2023 by ProudLBS
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said: Actually Song Title Streams Daily Because of You 583,782,947 258,041 Since U Been Gone 553,443,761 326,245 Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) 531,569,004 298,198 Underneath the Tree 484,262,956 10,897 Damn you lost there too you specifically mentioned SUBG, Hazel and BoY
DestroyAndSmile Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 17 hours ago, KCFan2014 said: Boo she sold 30k in rhe US and barely made the top 10 hahaha. Kelly's album hasn't came out yet but her last one opened with 79k while Avirls opened with 29k She has the #1 female talk show hahaha definitely more of a celebrity then the has been The only thing Avril is known for in 2023 is jumping from engagement to engagement and dating a Jenner ex lmfaa Tyga of all people Can you read? No one gives an f about KC outside of the anglosphere. And now she can't even chart in the US with a lead single. In her own country Good for her having a talk show that absolutely no one watches outside of the US.
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: then why don't people stream those "bigger hits" as much as Avril's? YouTube: Girlfriend - 624,004,915 Complicated - 589,378,340 Because of You - 509,781,226 Sk8er Boi - 238,716,243 Since U Been Gone - 114,133,107 Behind These Hazel Eyes - 76,076,531 Spotify: Complicated - 649,509,573 Since U Been Gone - 553,443,761 Because of You - 583,782,947 Sk8er Boi - 446,811,879 Girlfriend - 360,693,761 Behind These Hazel Eyes - 94,044,739 (and as seen above, Sk8er Boi is outstreaming Because of You) at least get your facts right What The Hell (2011) and Here's To Never Growing Up (2013) exist not that she needs to go top 20 to stomp on your fave's "hits" What The Hell (#11) - 317,903,890 Here's To Never Growing Up (#20) - 197,573,269 When You're Gone (#24) - 195,096,786 My Life Would Suck Without You (#1) - 167,494,602 Piece By Piece (#8) - 166,117,741 Wish You Were Here (#65) - 127,541,345 Smile (#68) - 86,745,187 Let Me Go (#78) - 70,673,489 Rock N Roll (#91) - 64,059,779 Catch My Breath (#19) - 60,139,036 Already Gone (#20) - 59,951,171 Mr. Know It All (#10) - 52,380,447 Hello Kitty (#75) - 49,987,319 Give You What You Like (album track) - 42,188,664 Innocence (album track) - 40,616,468 Alice (#71) - 40,140,023 Bad Girl (album track) - 31,679,703 I Love You (album track) - 29,109,585 Everybody Hurts (album track) - 28,094,659 When You're Gone acoustic - 18,252,110 I Do Not Hook Up (#20) - 17,598,368 Remember When (album track) - 17,076,516 Runaway (album track) - 15,943,568 Never Again (#8) - 14,441,063 they were still bigger hits. My fav has 6 more top 10 hits then urs She's so big but only 1 #1
ProudLBS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DestroyAndSmile said: Can you read? No one gives an f about KC outside of the anglosphere. And now she can't even chart in the US with a lead single. In her own country Good for her having a talk show that absolutely no one watches outside of the US. outside the Anglosphere? more like outside of North America, she doesn't even do well in the UK Edited May 1, 2023 by ProudLBS
KCFan2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: you specifically mentioned SUBG, Hazel and BoY You wanna mention streams all the time so here you go Song Title Streams Daily Because of You 583,782,947 258,041 Since U Been Gone 553,443,761 326,245 Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) 531,569,004 298,198 Underneath the Tree 484,262,956 10,897 Heartbeat Song 235,073,640 54,278 Breakaway 190,623,470 112,439 Complicated 649,509,573 447,029 Sk8er Boi 446,811,879 298,286 Girlfriend 360,693,761 234,989 What the Hell 317,903,890 194,921 I'm with You 221,557,612 162,226 Head Above Water 212,140,240 57,855 Edited May 1, 2023 by KCFan2014
UnusualBoy Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 She was always bigger, I think the only time Nelly was bigger was during Loose which was slightly bigger than TBDT.
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