Nefertiti0 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 In a new interview with The Guardian, Dessner said that he wanted to bring out “the vulnerability and emotion in Ed to make music that would not normally be his inclination” and “didn’t feel the need to try to make pop music”. Addressing any backlash to the collaboration, Dessner said: “He’s made giant pop records that are easy to criticise, but on a human and artistic level, he’s so gifted and lovely. It couldn’t have been more natural, fun and rewarding to feel him jumping off the cliff with me. Over time, I’ve tired of the ‘what’s cool?’ debate.” The pair worked on 32 songs together in a studio in Kent, 14 of which feature on Subtract. The pair would continue to work together, Dessner said, and have made more than 30 new songs since Kent. “I’m even more excited about those – I feel we’re getting better.” theguardian.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor fanboy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Is this backlash to their collaboration Ed’s PR moving for his TANKING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Why does he need to defend who he works with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebodybigheart Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Insanity said: Why does he need to defend who he works with have you ever had friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I'm confused by the term 'defends'. What is the issue with him working with Ed Sheeran? Why would he need to defend it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheers Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Why does he need to defend it? It’s not like Ed’s a murderer or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Day Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Don't know if there's backlash, it's possible. The "sell out!" crowd is still active, even if they're not that strong as they were 20 years ago. But alternative/indie artist working with the ultimate mainstream act is an easy target for those people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 It's like a conversation with the journalist..so we don't have any answer written but probably the journalist asked him "do you care about the criticism?" etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Next Day said: Don't know if there's backlash, it's possible. The "sell out!" crowd is still active, even if they're not that strong as they were 20 years ago. But alternative/indie artist working with the ultimate mainstream act is an easy target for those people. Has he ever been considered an alternative artist? No shade but I thought he's always made run of the mill radio fodder pop music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk_Away21 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Screaming at the title wording acting like Aaron worked with Dr Luke or R Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, HotFriedChicken said: Has he ever been considered an alternative artist? No shade but I thought he's always made run of the mill radio fodder pop music yeah they are really regarded by indie rock fans as true indie artists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karla Cabello Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 what did ed do apart sharting his pants like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleGuy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, Walk_Away21 said: Screaming at the title wording acting like Aaron worked with Dr Luke or R Kelly Like - Ed gets a lot of **** but he's extremely unproblematic and seems really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Is the backlash in the room with us right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritboy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, MrLovett said: I'm confused by the term 'defends'. What is the issue with him working with Ed Sheeran? Why would he need to defend it? Because people gets on off hating Ed Sheeran. Aaron probably got heat for working with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If U Seek Amy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I do not like Ed Sheeran's music. But wtf. This man should not have to defend who he works with. It is not like Ed has actually done anything to be a bad person. I am guessing people are calling him a sellout maybe. Well if you think that I see you don't have bills to pay and you're immature. Like you realize you can make money and still have other artistic endeavors in your solo work right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Day Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, HotFriedChicken said: Has he ever been considered an alternative artist? No shade but I thought he's always made run of the mill radio fodder pop music I mean, The National is not exactly radio candy, especially compared to Ed. But their music isn't obscure indie stuff either. The whole discussion boils down to "whatever sells less = good music", which has never been true, but stuck up music fans stay pressed because they make "being indie" their whole personality while they listen to artists who aren't even independent. It's just an image thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 what is there to defend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miichael Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I don't get how he's can be accused of being a sellout for working with Ed Sheeran when this isn't even the first time he's working with a mainstream pop artist. He made two albums with Taylor Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, HotFriedChicken said: Has he ever been considered an alternative artist? No shade but I thought he's always made run of the mill radio fodder pop music No Ed is not alternative. he had some folk pop crowd buzz during his debut tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomarr Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Sell out?? No one budged when he worked with Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LustSpell Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Why tf do you need to defend who you work with. Ed's boring and his past success is not really that deserved.. but that's not your issue as a collaborator. He's not a murderer or rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterOfFame Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Can't stand Aaron Dessner's arrogant snobbery towards pop music. Does he really think that he's more musically talented because he makes watered down boring music? Folklore and Evermore were successful because of Taylor, not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Saxton Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Walk_Away21 said: Screaming at the title wording acting like Aaron worked with Dr Luke or R Kelly 4 hours ago, Insanity said: Why does he need to defend who he works with This. I thought I missed something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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