Communion Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Edited April 28, 2023 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brishka Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Good. Bill Clinton was responsible for enriching and empowering China while crippling America's manufacturing. Biden should not repeat his mistake. China must be crushed before it's too late. Edited April 28, 2023 by Brishka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowRibbon Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 I wonder what the Chilean far-right will do when they realize that even the Americans are going to ditch neo-liberalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAP Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Too little too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrier Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 honestly this kind of thinking is where the whole world is going, whether you agree with it or not. the neoliberal establishment is giving 00s energy its outdated. globalism peaked before the pandemic and now it's in full retreat. countries are going to focus on self reliance to avoid these tragic supply line crises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MaoMars said: It's all nice and dandy untill you need chinese gadgets for your kitchen There's also the discussion of - can you have a Chinese-style economy that's centralized and protectionist...without a Chinese style political system? What will US politicians do when the lobbyists who own them say their corporate leaders do not want to decouple from the Chinese economy and lose out on the profits made from cost savings on labor? How will potential profits via subsidies to offset such lost cheap labor work when there's bipartisan consensus in DC that the rich shouldn't pay more in taxes? In America, if you cut spending by gutting entitlements, you lose the voters. But if you increase the budget by creating new taxes, you lose the billionaire donors .. Edited April 28, 2023 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liver Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 finally something good from this administration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylena Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 All it took was some countries ditching the $ for the yuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaHP Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Taylena said: All it took was some countries ditching the $ for the yuan This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisNihilist Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Biden neo-liberal...? A gag. Isn't neo-liberal what all off you above me are lol The reason why people were for Biden, other than Trump, is because he was conservative liberal. Get these f-ing conservative buzzwords outta here Edited April 29, 2023 by ThisNihilist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 The man who tried to pass Build Back Better, student loan forgiveness, passed the Chips act and mortgage equity was supposed to be a neoliberal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 35 minutes ago, Dephira said: The man who tried to pass Build Back Better, student loan forgiveness, passed the Chips act and mortgage equity was supposed to be a neoliberal? All presidents from Carter onwards have been neoliberal. Just like all presidents from FDR to Ford were New Dealers. It depends on the current consensus, and it looks like the consensus is about to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMIT Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Quote - Markets don't always allocate capital in socially optimal ways - Trade liberalization shouldn't be pursued for its own sake - Privileging finance over real economy was a mistake - Economic integration doesn't lead to alignment on other values Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, ThisNihilist said: neoconservative buzzwords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 This is entirely logical (and always has been) as we move towards a world where right to pollute increasingly becomes currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderland Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Nano said: All presidents from Carter onwards have been neoliberal. Just like all presidents from FDR to Ford were New Dealers. It depends on the current consensus, and it looks like the consensus is about to change. The Republicans ain’t changing a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 22 hours ago, ThisNihilist said: Biden neo-liberal...? A gag. Isn't neo-liberal what all off you above me are lol The reason why people were for Biden, other than Trump, is because he was conservative liberal. Get these f-ing neoconservative buzzwords outta here Most neoliberals are also conservatives. Ronald Reagan - the father of modern conservatism - ushered America into neoliberalism through his free market and free trade emphasizing policies. 21 hours ago, Dephira said: The man who tried to pass Build Back Better, student loan forgiveness, passed the Chips act and mortgage equity was supposed to be a neoliberal? A welfare state is not at odds with neoliberalism - in fact, a welfare state where the benefits are largely coded as aid but serve more-so as government subsidies to privately-owned entities is fairly common in neoliberalism. So citing an infrastructure bill that gave new subsidies and projects to largely private corporations, marginal student debt relief in a pandemic that still has not happened, etc. does not dispel the neoliberal status quo. But the CHIPS Act - solely done to stop China's rising economic status - is a protectionist policy showing such a shift. But Biden is not advancing us out of neoliberalism, but regressing back to the protectionist norms that preceded it. Neither acknowledging the current issues of income inequality in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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