Heldenzeit Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 It‘s over for you girlies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rp662 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 more years of Corpse; love to see certain girls fuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moloko Plus Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, shyboi said: What do you mean? Could you elaborate please? American politics is very cyclical. Both Democrats and Republicans are working toward the same goals and for the same lobbyists/corporations, they’re controlled opposition to each other existing purely to continue the two party system that the country is stuck in. The show they put on for the public is quite literally political theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sesame Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bears01 said: ….trump has a 25% approval rating and is loathed against independents, there absolutely is a question about it the GOP bombed in the states that decide the presidency in 2022, with candidates that were directly picked by trump himself. Im not saying he can’t win (he can), but you’re underestimating how disliked Trump is in swing states, especially when we already have polls that prove it: Its useless to talk about polling this far out, but trump winning these states isn’t the slam dunk you think it is Desantis winning or tying these key states… Jesus Christ we’re over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Hunt Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 46 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Politicians already ignore progressives when they reliably vote blue over policy considerations more than centrists who swap between voting for either party from election to election based on vibes and feelings. If you're a reliable voter, the Democrats will take you for granted. Which is why the only consolations black women have ever gotten from the Democratic Party have been identity-based selections for Kamala Harris and Ketanji Brown Jackson. If you withhold your vote, you're unreliable and can safely be ignored. They only care if you're a centrist who would otherwise vote Republican. and yet black women still vote consistently and decide who the democratic nominee will be. they are the most powerful demographic in he democratic party. why is that? do you think you know something they don’t? do you think the democrats are tricking them somehow? (dismissing a supreme court seat and the vice presidency as “identity-based selections” is exactly why leftists lose black women every primary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hannah Hunt said: and yet black women still vote consistently *laughs awkwardly in Wisconsin 2016* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hannah Hunt said: and yet black women still vote consistently and decide who the democratic nominee will be. they are the most powerful demographic in he democratic party. why is that? do you think you know something they don’t? do you think the democrats are tricking them somehow? (dismissing a supreme court seat and the vice presidency as “identity-based selections” is exactly why leftists lose black women every primary) "every primary" as though there's even been a serious leftist in any primary other than the most recent two. Anyway, yes, Kamala gets the distinction of being the most unpopular VP in recorded history all thanks to being an identity-based hire, and KBJ's nomination was bogged down with unnecessary mudslinging because Biden tainted the process by publicly stating that race was going to be the deciding factor ahead of the selection. Biden committing to hollow diversity hires based on identity instead of merely judging candidates by their qualifications and privately selecting the most qualified woman who just so happens to be black is reflective of why Affirmative Action is about to be struck down by SCOTUS. Yes, it's fairly obvious that black women have been tricked into unflinchingly supporting a Democratic Party that consistently takes them for granted. And no, they're not "the most powerful demographic" by any means. As a whole, they make up less than 15% of America's population. There are more white women who vote Democrat than there are black women in total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Hunt Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Communion said: *laughs awkwardly in Wisconsin 2016* that was 3 national elections ago leftists move pass 2016 challenge (impossible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, Hannah Hunt said: that was 3 national elections ago leftists move pass 2016 challenge (impossible) neolibs learn and apply little to anything of substance from lessons learned in 2016 (impossible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi91 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I’ll be voting for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrorblade Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 daskjadsk whos his puppeteer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaggedGalaxy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 A Dianne Feinstein tea, these old people need to know when to step aside and let younger people rise up. His inner circle should have him elevating newer and younger candidates, not running again at his age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Hunt Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: "every primary" as though there's even been a serious leftist in any primary other than the most recent two. Anyway, yes, Kamala gets the distinction of being the most unpopular VP in recorded history all thanks to being an identity-based hire, and KBJ's nomination was bogged down with unnecessary mudslinging because Biden tainted the process by publicly stating that race was going to be the deciding factor ahead of the selection. Biden committing to hollow diversity hires based on identity instead of merely judging candidates by their qualifications and privately selecting the most qualified woman who just so happens to be black is reflective of why Affirmative Action is about to be struck down by SCOTUS. Yes, it's fairly obvious that black women have been tricked into unflinchingly supporting a Democratic Party that consistently takes them for granted. And no, they're not "the most powerful demographic" by any means. As a whole, they make up less than 15% of America's population. There are more white women who vote Democrat than there are black women in total wow, i didn’t actually think you’d take the bait and call the vice president and a supreme court justice “diversity hires”. that’s pretty racist! best of luck electing anyone to the left of elizabeth warren with that attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Hunt Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Espresso said: neolibs learn and apply little to anything of substance from lessons learned in 2016 (impossible) and what did leftists learn from 2016? clearly it wasn’t “we should do a better job at appealing to black people in south carolina so bernie can win this time”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hannah Hunt said: wow, i didn’t actually think you’d take the bait and call the vice president and a supreme court justice “diversity hires”. that’s pretty racist! best of luck electing anyone to the left of elizabeth warren with that attitude Well, that's what they are. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. And really, I don't care. Democrats are just going to keep nominating Republican-Lites like Biden like the trash party they are. Kamala is still deeply unpopular and nobody who's not a part of her online troll bot farm actually likes her. She's a liability to Biden's re-election bid, if anything. KBJ on the other hand is perfectly qualified for her position, as much as anyone else would have been. The only reason anyone would demean her nomination is because of Biden's own unforced error belittling her achievements and reducing her to her skin color as her most important asset above all else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, Hannah Hunt said: and what did leftists learn from 2016? clearly it wasn’t “we should do a better job at appealing to black people in south carolina so bernie can win this time”. Basing the primary solely around establishment-friendly conservatives in a Red State is a disastrously bad decision. But that's exactly why so much undeserved importance is placed on that state even though it will never vote for Democrats in a general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 @Hannah Hunt The majority of the reason Kamala's so despised by not only leftists but many neolibs is not because of any affirmative-action motivation in picking her in the first place despite a solid resume (policy preferences aside) but her abysmal performance as Vice President. Her own colleagues trashed her to several outlets include Politico as having no idea what she's talking about, not reading security briefs, and giving little to no input into her speeches, and that's just for starters. Even if she is being shafted into an impossibly gargantuan policy platform by Biden as her team claims literally the basic ask is to have a remotely coherent answer to softball interview questions. One portion of a speech on the Tennessee Three barely makes up for the dozens if not hundreds of word salads she's presented otherwise, starting with a "defense" of The Willow Project decisions on Colbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brishka Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 King. He will wipe the floor with Trump (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiejc Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Let's get it Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Hunt Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, ClashAndBurn said: Basing the primary solely around establishment-friendly conservatives in a Red State is a disastrously bad decision. But that's exactly why so much undeserved importance is placed on that state even though it will never vote for Democrats in a general election. why do you have such a problem with black voters having their voice heard? did you complain about the far redder state Iowa having even greater importance than south carolina or do you only have a problem when the state in question is darker than a paper bag still not getting a response on why the bernie campaign never improved their performance after 2016 and instead did much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hannah Hunt said: and what did leftists learn from 2016? clearly it wasn’t “we should do a better job at appealing to black people in south carolina so bernie can win this time”. Addressing the earlier points, Kamala and KBJ were both qualified for their positions and I'm not claiming otherwise. But KBJ was reduced to her race in the nominating contest instead of more delicate framing and whether Kamala was more qualified than other candidates or even satisfied the hopes of increasing black turn-out when they were going to turn out for Obama's VP regardless were highly questionable. If anything, Kamala's numbers with young black voters has been consistently poor given her policing record. Not all progressives are Bernie die-hards, far from it. I've got a laundry list of problems with Bernie, starting with the Brady Bill, and kowtowing to some white nationalist talking points on some immigration reforms in a convoluted effort to appease some blue-collar workers seeking higher wages. Reducing Bernie supporters to Bernie bros and then subsequently reducing them to Chapo Trap House racists is lazy argumentation, factually inaccurate and a dead horse at this point. Reducing the Democratic party to older black voters in a Red State like South Carolina that like Biden while completely ignoring Latino-majority Culinary Unions in Las Vegas that happen to have liked Bernie is exactly the problem. You don't get to throw around the "RACIST" talking point when Biden is selectively exhibiting EXACTLY that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hannah Hunt said: why do you have such a problem with black voters having their voice heard? did you complain about the far redder state Iowa having even greater importance than south carolina or do you only have a problem when the state in question is darker than a paper bag still not getting a response on why the bernie campaign never improved their performance after 2016 and instead did much worse I didn't know South Carolina conservatives represented every single black voter in the country, many of whom also voted for Bernie. You constantly deflecting to the man who is never running for president ever again while discussing the current disaster of an incumbent goes to show how little there is to actually defend Biden. I don't even care about Bernie anymore either. Most of his supporters have moved on from him, especially after he became Joe Biden's biggest simp in the entire legislature. Everyone still involved with the Democratic Party in any form is a joke and unworthy of my vote. Especially Rachel Dolez- I mean, Elizabeth Warren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenTheShit Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: I’ll be voting for him Same. Everyone can get mad but at the need of the day it is what it is. Trump and Desantis are far more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, Hannah Hunt said: why do you have such a problem with black voters having their voice heard? did you complain about the far redder state Iowa having even greater importance than south carolina or do you only have a problem when the state in question is darker than a paper bag still not getting a response on why the bernie campaign never improved their performance after 2016 and instead did much worse Your tokenizing and weaponizing of “black voters” in your posts is borderline insulting and downright ridiculous. Find a better argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvadaKedavra Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Im very scared about my Country. The president of my country is a disaster and Donald Trump-DeSantis are enemies of him. Wish democrats had someone better but all the candidates look messy. Like not popular enough I fear for the future of yll my american sisters too. If someone like Trump-DeSantis win i can see The States turning into something horrible. Civil wars once they start attackin the LGBTI-Black-Latinos-East Asians...... Praying there's a miracle and and youre all saved by biden or someone else. Edited April 25, 2023 by AvadaKedavra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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