discussion New Cleopatra Netflix documentary causes controversy; "Cleopatra was black"

[TROPICUM]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 21, 2023 by TROPICUM

[GraceRandolph]

 

What IS this account.

[suburbannature]

She was Macedonian-Green with possible Middle Eastern heritage. learn history challenge 

Edited April 21, 2023 by suburbannature

[madonnas]

That Twitter account … yikes.  
 

 

but anyway from all accounts that I’ve read, yes cleopatra was mostly of Macedonian descent. 

[Gautier]

The Egyptian outrage Netflix should really start to do its homework before casting absolute fools with the IQ of a worm to do these shows.

[CaptainMusic]

I thought it was common knowledge that Cleopatra was a Greek woman  

[Tropez]

AP

 

 

[Sergi91]

It’s what Jada deserves 

[BeyIridescent]

I’m pretty sure they would’ve have cared it they would have made her lily white (which has been done countless times).

[JoAddams]

well 

[Happylittlepunk]

Several people need to get fired at Netflix tbh. 

[Reginald]

"blackwashing???"  I hate social media. 

[Illuminati]

1 hour ago, BeyIridescent said:

I’m pretty sure they would’ve have cared it they would have made her lily white (which has been done countless times).

Well yes, cause Cleopatra wasn't pale

[kandicha]

There are other African queens who weren’t in fact Greek women they could’ve made a documentary about instead…

[terrorblade]

so that's y I've been seeing #egyptforegyptians on tiktok

[Relampago.]

Racist tbh

[MotoPapi]

The family was Greek-Macedonian and spoke Greek. also inbreeding was practice to “keep the bloodline pure” so pretty much everyone in the royal family was white/middle eastern 

[Harrier]

The insistence that all Egyptians were black Africans is the weirdest quirk of American academia/media  Along with Afrocentrism in general.

I understand it as a reaction to the whitewashing that has happened, but let's not insert modern American race politics and anachronistic language into ancient Egypt.

Egypt was a multi-ethnic society with some people we might call black today for sure, especially in later periods after waves of migration from the south. But most Egyptians, especially early Egyptians, were Semitic-speaking peoples that would not have looked very different from how Semitic-speaking North Africans still look today. Ie like Egyptians do today. Most were what we today would call 'brown', some were black, and some during the Ptolemaic period like Cleopatra would have looked more European due to her Greek ancestry.

 

Black Egypt is widely rejected pseudohistory based on a desire to 'claim' Egypt, for some reason. Let history be history and cease trying to insert modern narratives into it. It's literally the same line of thinking as racist white historians who've tried to argue every civilisation in history was somehow European in origin. Like be serious 

 

Why not make a documentary about some of the actually definitely black African queens like Amanitore or Kandake or Makeda

 

[BOOMBAYAH]

Cleopatra was not black, but it sends me whenever these republicans come out of the woodworks to say how Hollywood is being “blackwashed” but they had/have no issue with characters of colour being played by white actors/half white actors.  Like Eygptians were being played by white actors as recently as the 10s in major blockbusters and there was never major outrage. It’s not about historical accuracy for them, it’s more so their hatred for anything “woke” and “woke” meaning anything showing people that racial minorities and LGBTQ+ people exist.