news Egyptian lawyer sues Netflix for Cleopatra depiction

[TaggedGalaxy]

Suing Netflix is kind of ridiculous, ultimately it’s not that serious. But yes changing the race of an actual historical figure just for shock value is so dumb 

[vale9001]

7 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

 

except this is promoted as a documentary and as historical facts not fiction 

 

a woman literally says in the "documentary": "I don't care what they tell you in school, cleopatra was black" which shows netflix or who ever is behind this "documentary" is purposefully trying to falsify history

If It's an historian will we listen what She has to tell us.

 

Anyway still ...if someone makes (again) a movie with Jesus looking like a swedish guy some people will make a tweet with "he actually looked like this...". End of story.

 

If someone would make a movie with a Jesus looking african some people would literally riot on the street 

Edited April 20, 2023 by vale9001

[shyboi]

3 hours ago, Leptine said:

From the more reliable recostructions based on coins and sculptures, she was supposed to look like this with a striking nose.

 

 

GAGA!

 

13 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

 

a woman literally says in the "documentary": "I don't care what they tell you in school, cleopatra was black" 

 

did she actually used those exact words? 

 

and was Cleopatra black? now i am really confused 

 

Edited April 20, 2023 by shyboi

[shyboi]

9 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

if someone makes (again) a movie with Jesus looking like a swedish guy some people will make a tweet with "he actually looked like this...". End of story.

 

remember the mess when ScarJo played that role in Ghost In The Shell? and that was YEARS ago

 

In this day and age, I don't think white actors can get away with playing other races with at least some amount of backlash 

[Luckitty]

3 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

GAGA!

 

 

i - 

 

was she? now i am really confused 

 

no she was macedonian greek

 

even the regular (non-rulers) ancient egyptians were mostly not black, the modern day egyptians (+other middle easterners) are the closest people genetically to ancient egyptians (obviously)

 

[shyboi]

5 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

no she was macedonian greek

 

even the regular (non-rulers) ancient egyptians were mostly not black, the modern day egyptians (+other middle easterners) are the closest people genetically to ancient egyptians (obviously)

 

 

Interesting topic. 

 

What's the branch of science that studies this? Anthropology? i find it fascinating 

[satellites.™]

9 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

remember the mess when ScarJo played that role in Ghost In The Shell? and that was YEARS ago

 

In this day and age, I don't think white actors can get away with playing other races with at least some amount of backlash 

Unless they're animated.

 

[TaggedGalaxy]

25 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

GAGA!

 

 

did she actually used those exact words? 

 

and was Cleopatra black? now i am really confused 

 

Most historians agree that she was not Black, she was Macedonian Greek. This comment on Reddit from a historian goes into some detail

 

 

[shyboi]

11 minutes ago, TaggedGalaxy said:

Most historians agree that she was not Black, she was Macedonian Greek. This comment on Reddit from a historian goes into some detail

 

 

 

Wow, almost had a stroke reading it but i did, i read the whole thing

 

They seem to know a LOT about the topic, very impressing! Thank for sharing this.

[Wondy Lust]

 

1 hour ago, TaggedGalaxy said:

Most historians agree that she was not Black, she was Macedonian Greek. This comment on Reddit from a historian goes into some detail

 

 

As someone who majored in Classical Studies, the last sentence rings so true because we always see it done time and time again.

[Nano]

7 hours ago, heckinglovato said:

not you defending racism nnnn

Criticizing blackwashing isn't racism.

[Tylerbv]

Suing is

 

But if they’re saying this is a documentary.. they probably should go with someone closer to how she actually was. For fictional characters, who gives a ****, but for real people.. eh

[Pluto6]

As he should! Stop cultural appropriating Egyptian history and culture and stop trying to erase North African/ Middle Eastern/ Mediterranean ancestry and history in general! This can be common in general where some either whitewash or blackwash our history  People want our history and influence so bad. Like I’m not the type of person to care about “cultural appropriation” tbh, like I would actually be kinda proud and honored if other group of people were to wear our clothes and aesthetic etc., but what I can’t stand by is when other people are trying to deny our own history in general and acting as if our DNA doesn’t exist.

 

Jada, you’re over!!!!!
 

 

Edited April 20, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Phaunzie]

I thought her hair color is constantly in flux among historians. Some say, brunette, red frizzy hair, blonde, like do we really know at this point?   I thought that she had brown to dark brown hair like most Macedonian women.

[Karla Cabello]

which cleopatra are we talking about cause there was a lot of them and fiction is allowed to retell stories. this is not an historic documentary

[directionlockerlock]

Why is he mentioning Islam as if it has anything to do with cleopatra's skin color 

[MadonnasBoyfriend]

Here she is

[Badger]

Okay but him saying Cleopatra should be blonde???

[katara]

18 hours ago, Leptine said:

From the more reliable recostructions based on coins and sculptures, she was supposed to look like this with a striking nose.

 

Lady GaGa, you will always be famous. 

[arceus]

The only Cleopatra we recognize 

[express999]

On 4/20/2023 at 4:25 PM, Hector said:

The fact that he is suing for promoting "Afrocentrism" but has probably had no problem seeing "Cleopatra" portrayed by Elizabeth Taylor on the big screen or seeing the probable likes of Angelina Jolie or Gal Gadot playing her tells me everything I need to know about him. 

elizabeth taylor and her people didn't claim that cleopatra was their ancestor and that egyptians are colonizers and invaders unlike that woman, the whole docu is basically supporting afrocentric claims that egyptians are arab invaders (which isn't true) and that's why egyptians are upset, you claiming that this is a white vs black issue shows that you know absolutely nothing about the issue 

[shyboi]

9 hours ago, MadonnasBoyfriend said:

Here she is

 

4 hours ago, arceus said:

The only Cleopatra we recognize 

 

[Zox]

I mean he won't win the lawsuit, but he is right  

[Archetype]

My main question is why Americans want to significantly change Cleopatra's race so badly.  Do people just hate Greeks?  Allergic to Greek food?  What is it?

[terrorblade]

Netflix at it again